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Any MMA guys and/or Olympic Lifters?

Power36

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Just curious who on here might do MMA, muay thai, bjj, wrestling, boxing and related full contact type martial arts? And if so how much experience, how much a week, and how much lifting do you do as well?

Also, by chance does anyone do a combatives sport and olympic lifting?

Curious, I do lots of olympic lifting and MMA...on my regular HRT its not an issue. My lifts are usually 4 days a week starting on the platoform with cleans, snatches, push press, jerks, or sometimes ill go right into deads or squat variations. I also do speed, agility, and strong man type conditioning.

Im doing a current blast of Primo and Mast, about 5 weeks in. Last week I added Tren and Var, as I got the Tren as a freebie so said what the heck threw it in. Wow, Im struggling to do all my workouts now....I used to do 4 full body lifts a week plus the last 15 mins being interval conditioning of some sort....then a few hours later one or two MMA classes....since starting Tren and Var, Im gassing out after one MMA class and ready to go home...and waking up feeling groggy and fatigued. I imagine all the juice is helping my muscles recover, but for whatever reason Im feeling tired. Could be Im on too low of carbs though as well, so Im going to add in a little fruit and rice the next few weeks. I typically eat mainly meat, fish, eggs, cheese, almonds, and keep carbs low other than veggies and if Im on the run and get a sandwich the wheat bread it comes on. I supplement with plenty of whey, BCAAs, EFAs.

Thinking ahead to my next blast next year, wondering what kinds of cycles and roids folks who might do MMA on here use, and anyone who does more olympic lifting and sport type workouts with sprints, agility, sleds, sledge, ropes, those sorts of things. I am not a Crossfitter but I guess if some of you folks do that and juice, the demands might be similar so please do tell if you do that kind of thing and what works for you roid wise.

I might just stick to Primo and Mast again next time around and nothing else as I feel pretty energetic on them, and still feel athletic and like they boost recovery and allow me to train alot. Im not looking to gain size, if anything Id love to shred up more. I vary from 7.5% BF (dunk tanked) to 12% on a typical basis and Im 5'10 nornally 240-250lbs. Id love to be 220 just for my old back, knees, hips and joints but even on low carb with lots of conditioning and MMA my natural size has always been in the 230s since I was a teenager (Im pushing 40 now). I cant do stimulants though to try to drop weight, Ive had adrenal fatigue issues in the past and I dont want to mess with stimulants, clen, albuterol, etc. They do seem tempting from time to time with some of the posts i see on here of guys shredding up! :-) Winstrol seems tempting but the soft tissue reports whether fact or myth scare me, and I tried a little tbol before and that felt pretty damn good for the low cost compared to var!
 
Mast, primo, EQ be good for a blast. Var can mess with lipids bad, as well as the pumps, and tren can make you lose a lot of cardio and for me horrible back pumps while trying to wrestle.
Just stay away from winny, the joint issues and can mess with your lipids bad.
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So Var isnt a good choice huh? I thought it was fairly safe and a good low side effect oral for athletes, and some HRT clinics presribe it which is how I got it...

Ive read up on EQ, but I thought it increased appetite a ton so for me that wouldnt be ideal considering Im already as big as Id like to be....but its way cheaper than Primo so it has crossedd my radar.

What do you use for wrestling if you do hit cycles?


Thanks for the input!
 
Gosh Im surpised there are not more MMA or full contact fighter types on here... or olympic lifters.

I did find an article on t-nation by some supposed MMA guru coach who advises dudes on roids. If I remember correctly he says he prefers 600mg week with varying combos of test, masteron, equipoise, var, halotestin, and some guys do small doses of tren and others like 200mg of Deca for joint issues.
 
MMA right here! I'm on this sit just to learn. Not into to body building at all. I've noticed that 90% of people on here have there diet, training and aas based around looks/body building. Obviously nothing wrong with that. But us MMA guys don't care about are looks. I just want to be as violent as possible lol. This is a great sit though. I've learned a lot about the right ways to eat, lift, take aas and pct.

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Yea I train for athletics, and just because olympic lifting and powerlifting is a lifestyle. I do more conditioning work than when I was younger just to try to stay lean and live longer haha. But MMA 3-5 times a week I try in addition to 4 lifts + intervals or strongman conditioning...I look ok and thats cool, but Im not training for looks. If you train your ass off like an athlete in the weightroom and playing a sport, and eat andd supplement decent, you are going to look arlight unless your genetics stink. Maybe not as shredded or fine tuned as a bodybuilder, but you will look good.

Yea I still want to hear other opinions on cycles or blasts for olympic lifters and figthers!

Mast, Prim, and Eq sounds like a fun blast next year I might try. Im not competing in MMA so I dont think I need the halotestin, plus its harsh on the body from what Ive read. I dont want anymore size so I dont think dbol would be a good choice for me hah. If winny screws up joints or soft tissue thats a no go with MMA or anyone like me with plenty of nagging old injuries. tbol?
 
MMA fighting is totally different than bodybuilding or lifting.

being able to bench 400 is not gonna help you in a MMA ring as you well know.. MMA like anything else takes hours and hours of training to get good at. if i went into a MMA ring i would get crushed in probably 5 seconds against those guys. those guys train their asses off and have amazing reflexes, flexability and a bunch of other skills that takes a long time to refine.
 
With my weight and power I do great on the ground. But one of my best friends actually fights pro and I can't stand with him for 30 seconds. His speed is out of my reach! He puts on 16oz gloves and I won't wear anything..... I still get owned every time lol.

But yea, lifting and MMA are nothing alike. I'm 5'10 228lb so people think I'm big or tough because of my arms or shoulders. He's 6'1 185lb but a golden glove boxer, blue belt bjj,ect. So people look at him like he's tall and skinny. But his skill and speed are no joke.


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In my early 20s I was 5'10 and 240ish, super athletic and coming off a Division One football and competitive powerlifting career. The first few months of judo, JKD, and bjj I got smashed by everyone hah...I tried so hard to use strength and power and was so tense, I would gas out and get caught in submissions left and right. As I calmed down and got inocculated to the figthing I could hang pretty well standing up throwing blows or doing take downs on guys, but yea putting in your thousands of hours to hone technique, strategy, polish motor skills, reading other folks body language and being trained enough to respond intuitively on thet fly...all beautiful stuff...thats why its so fun for me, there is always something to strive, to train, and to work out, and for sure for the majority of us plenty of guys half our sizes who could beat our asses and pummel us hah...so it keeps motivation high to train!!

You can combine lifting, conditioning, and MMA....but its totally different animal than bodybuilding or powerlifting (which are two different animals themselves too!). Nutrition, recovery, knowing how to balance the gym and the mat time, stuff becomes more important especially (at least for me!) as I age. Even on HRT, I cannot train as hard, long, and often as I did in my 20s. Even on blasts like now I cant, because shit still hurts when you train alot and train hard! Even if juice is helping your muscles recover your body still takes a beating.

I love it though...I know no other lifestyle :-)
 
i train mma on and off, but have been for years. I lift but keep it short. when i train I do one day strength and conditioning and one day fight training. I feel that not overdoing it keeps me strong and injury free as well as pumped instead of burnt out. I work a very physical job 2 though. Im not super strong at lifting and own a bunch of my friends that can bench 400 when training mma. Its weird because i feel that lifting helps me so id think that their superior lifting strength would help them that much more but just doesnt seem to be the case. I dont even feel like they are stronger.
 
There's a big difference between grappling strength and pure weight lifting strength. I have good strength to lift a weight and have wrestled for a long time and always has transferred over well vs someone not having done it can be strong but feel weak when going at it. Personally have stopped lifting hard because am at limit for weight lifting strength to transfer to my grappling and no need for more muscle.

Eq can boost appetite in some, others don't. I think will be okay.

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Ground based force production is important in most collisions sports. SO bench doesnt mean jack...other than maybe you have good shoulder stability. Those who have better verticals, broad jumps, heavier cleans, snatches, deadlifts, and squats, those lifts will have more carryover IF you can use that strength in whatever sport endeavor you are engagin in as someone said in the thread.
 
Maybe EQ would be good for my needs if it ended up giving me boost in grubbing haha...Im already too damn big! I like the little dose of Tren I added to my blast, cut my appetite big time!

Maybe the spring blast will still be just a teeny bit of Tren, with lots of Mast and Primo...and maybe I will throw in tbol for the oral next time around and see how that treats me. I might be up to experiment with halotestin but lots of reading says its harsh, plus I seems harder to come by and more expensive from certain sources to be running it at decent dose.
 
I wouldn't bother with halo for ur needs but could try some. Stuff is sweet tho for drive and aggression. I like your idea for next blast should be more than enough... to say the least. If don't wanna be so big stop running so much gear and sure will get smaller haha

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hahah

Well even on my regular HRT doses, Im 235-245 depending on eating. If I eat carbs I stay heavier, so for many health reasons as well scale, I try to avoid too many carbs. When I was young I didnt react this way to food, I ate 5-6k calories a day just to stay where I was, granted I was burning more calories. But I still train like a freak lifting, conditioning, and MMA and Im sure I burn a lot of calories. But harder to get lighter now! Damn metabolism. But yea I was 235 pounds at 16 as a fullback in high school, so Im still close to my fighting weight. Believe it or not even on blasts I do not put on tons of weight, but my blasts have only been primo, mast, or var or 200mg Deca for joints. Ive never really ran high doses or gotten too bold, this current blast by far is the most juice Ive ever ran. I havent been on a scale in 3 weeks so not sure if Ive put on a lot of lbs of bodyweight, but hopefully Im close to scale weight and just burning up some bodyfat.

So yea....Im not gonna drop HRT because Ill feel like money a$$ hah, but even on 200mg week Test putting me in mid range of normal levels, and low dose GH, Im a big guy. Although besides trying all this new juice on this blast, my GH got bumped up to 15mg week. Only been 3 or 4 weeks, but maybe in a few months Ill see some nice results from that. Cruise on my HRT until Jan or Fed then hit Tren light for 6-8 weeks and Mast+Primo hard for 8-10 weeks.

Confession guys, I was a competitive athlete and lifter my entire life and didnt juice. Now Im an old guy who still loves trianing like an athlete and learnin different MMA stuff, and now since I started HRT I slowly got over the guilt trip of juicing and its not like a need to be bigger or try to do anything special, its just like fun experiments to try this stuff hah...is that awful? haha
 
MMA and muay thai here... I like to stick with different combinations of Test, Primo, Anavar and T-Bol. I would definitely advise against Tren. It will kill your cardio and the sleep issues won't help either. Personally, I wouldn't do high doses of anything, unless you really want to add mass (which generally, isn't going to help you in MMA).

Careful with the Anavar, as it can cause pumps that might make doing things for a long time difficult. Also, some people report that Anavar makes them lethargic. I like Anavar in reasonable doses (30-60mg/day) for the strength and lean mass.

Masteron is fine. Although, if you're doing Primo at the same time you might want to watch for prostate and hairloss issues.

Haven't tried EQ, but I'm thinking that it might add too much mass for an MMA fighter.

Anyway, just my two cents...
 
Pro here. Lift three days a week, train 5 days a week. The right lifting and stacks will go a long way in helping your athletic performance in mma. I do alot of explosive compound lifts, though i mix it up with some high volume here and there for muscle endurance and to shock the body.. But with 3 five minute rounds or 3 three min rounds as an ammy its all about explosive power. Dont want to cycle for alot of mass for sure. Alot of new mass and water retention makes for the most miserable weight cuts when its go time. And yes killer pumps in the gym is great but insane blood flow to the muscles in the cage is gonna make those shoudlers heavy (hands drop and find yourself punched in the face alot) and legs heavy (find your movement impaired and its hard to get those hips back and you get taken down again and again).
 
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