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THANK YOU!!!!
I have been called many things, but a barbaric Neanderthal - THAT is a new one!
HHEHEHhehaoehaohehahehaoehhaehehaehaeaeae
Oh wait... maybe I am just not there yet! DAMMIT!
See, I have NO ONE to compete with... but myself. I'd say, the toughest competition there is. But then again, that's only me.
I used to be you and like so many women at the "thin pages" or whatever it's called.... because I valued myself so little I did whatever I could to try and make myself so physically small that one day, perhaps I'd disappear. It was pretty funny really... I'd KILL myself in the gym with pathetic little girly weights (because that is all I had the strength for from lack of FOOD - no magic - JUST FOOD) and hours of cardio yet I was NEVER satisfied because no matter how skinny and small I was I WAS FLABBY AND SOFT AND WEAK.
I hope to GOD that none of my daughters EVER SEE such pathetic misery as what is on that site. It scared THE HECK out of me.
I want them to feed their bodies as well as thier minds.... I want them to love and value themselves REGARDLESS of their weight or clothing size.... I want them to value strength of character as well as the strength of their bodies.....
Yes, STRENGTH is a most desirable attribute - SURPRIZE!!!! for us gurly-girls TOO!
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THANK YOU!!!!
I have been called many things, but a barbaric Neanderthal - THAT is a new one!
HHEHEHhehaoehaohehahehaoehhaehehaehaeaeae
Oh wait... maybe I am just not there yet! DAMMIT!
See, I have NO ONE to compete with... but myself. I'd say, the toughest competition there is. But then again, that's only me.
I used to be you and like so many women at the "thin pages" or whatever it's called.... because I valued myself so little I did whatever I could to try and make myself so physically small that one day, perhaps I'd disappear. It was pretty funny really... I'd KILL myself in the gym with pathetic little girly weights (because that is all I had the strength for from lack of FOOD - no magic - JUST FOOD) and hours of cardio yet I was NEVER satisfied because no matter how skinny and small I was I WAS FLABBY AND SOFT AND WEAK.
I hope to GOD that none of my daughters EVER SEE such pathetic misery as what is on that site. It scared THE HECK out of me.
I want them to feed their bodies as well as thier minds.... I want them to love and value themselves REGARDLESS of their weight or clothing size.... I want them to value strength of character as well as the strength of their bodies.....
Yes, STRENGTH is a most desirable attribute - SURPRIZE!!!! for us gurly-girls TOO!
luv2workout
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BMOM speaks the truth! amen!
Now Im going to have to take a look at that site...I saw a special on dateline about these websites that actually teach girlz how to binge/purge, etc....truly sad
Now Im going to have to take a look at that site...I saw a special on dateline about these websites that actually teach girlz how to binge/purge, etc....truly sad
Simple question
Do any of you think we truly enjoy being anorexic?
Do you think we're out recruiting? Most kids who stumble on the siite will realize very quickly how difficult our lives are and get the hell out. It's not a fad or a lifestyle, it's a disease. Those who come for the quick diet fix will leave soon enough.
Do you think I'd wish years of self-torture on any young girl? I'm a parent as well. I would never want my child or any child to go through the pain that I have gone through as an anorexic.
Perhaps we just find solace in talking to others like us who understand, and perhaps we'd like to do so without people flaming us. It hurts me that people tend to have so little compassion for their fellow man. You know nothing about us as individuals, and yet you come into our site and judge. You, who are probably judged often for your odd appearances. Tell me, muscle women, that you don't know what it's like to be stared at. I'm sure we share that commonality.
Please leave us alone. I come to the thin forum for a little peace and understanding. I have not been innocent in the flame wars, but I will no longer post on them. I'm tired of fighting.
Before you judge someone's character or way of life, maybe you should take the time to learn a little about them.
Even if you don't agree, at least think about the opinion of this anorexic "freak". We both have "extreme" views regarding body image and physical expectations. There's no reason we can't respect one another's differences.
Do any of you think we truly enjoy being anorexic?
Do you think we're out recruiting? Most kids who stumble on the siite will realize very quickly how difficult our lives are and get the hell out. It's not a fad or a lifestyle, it's a disease. Those who come for the quick diet fix will leave soon enough.
Do you think I'd wish years of self-torture on any young girl? I'm a parent as well. I would never want my child or any child to go through the pain that I have gone through as an anorexic.
Perhaps we just find solace in talking to others like us who understand, and perhaps we'd like to do so without people flaming us. It hurts me that people tend to have so little compassion for their fellow man. You know nothing about us as individuals, and yet you come into our site and judge. You, who are probably judged often for your odd appearances. Tell me, muscle women, that you don't know what it's like to be stared at. I'm sure we share that commonality.
Please leave us alone. I come to the thin forum for a little peace and understanding. I have not been innocent in the flame wars, but I will no longer post on them. I'm tired of fighting.
Before you judge someone's character or way of life, maybe you should take the time to learn a little about them.
Even if you don't agree, at least think about the opinion of this anorexic "freak". We both have "extreme" views regarding body image and physical expectations. There's no reason we can't respect one another's differences.
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You probably enjoy it about as much as I DID. HATED IT! The more I engaged in the anorixic/bulimic behavior, the more I hated MYSELF for it, the more I continued to punish myself WITH THE BEHAVIOR..... it was a vicious cycle.
What you do not understand is that MANY of the women here once had those eating disorders. I can't speak for everyone here, I can only speak for myself. Though I no longer engage in the behavior, the thoughts STILL COME. Yes, everytime there is a crisis in my life (and with the divorce hell I am in - BELIEVE ME... THERE IS NO SHORTAGE) my first reaction is that I am weak, I am small, I'll NEVER be anything, never amount to anything, am unlovable and DESERVE TO BE PUNISHED!!! But then I take a deep breath and realize that EVERY SINGLE ONE OF THESE STATEMENTS IS PURE BULLSHIT!
I AM STRONG and I AM BETTER THAN THAT!
What you don't understand is that yes, I used to get some kind of rush when people used to stare at me because I was so thin. They would raise their eyebrows and say, "My God, know one would have EVER guessed that you had four kids!" That is because I looked like a 15 year old KID who had a superfast metabolism.... either that or I just didn't eat (DUH!). And then they would say, "Well you must just be GENETICALLY like that." Because who in THIER RIGHT MIND would do THAT to themselves ON PURPOSE?!?!?! Ummmmm, NO, no genetics - I JUST STARVED AND WORK-OUTED TO DEATH.
Since I "snapped out of it" and decided that I wanted to be SOMETHING MORE, you are right, people DO STARE, but the look is not the same. Now people do not look at me as if I am a genetic freak (Women used to give me that "lucky bitch" stare of hate.). Now they STARE AT ME WITH PART ADMIRATION/ PART DISBELIEF. After all, how could a women who has had so many children and who is approaching her mid thirties POSSIBLY be so strong, self-confident, and sexy?!
Yesterday night at the gym I was payed A VERY HIGH compliment. I am training at a new gym w/my friend Fitness Chick. She is destined for the Olympia I believe. She is in THE BEST SHAPE OF HER LIFE (Her physique is FAR superior to mine.) and she is about ten years younger. She is AMAZINGLY BEAUTIFUL TO BOOT. There is no comparison. I feel driven and motivated by her.... she is a tremendous inspiration, yet I feel ZERO jealousy. She put the time and dedication into her physique and DESERVES every bit of the accolades that she receives. You must realize that next to her, I am all but invisible in the gym. But that is very cool with me as I am there to train and be better - not to "be on display". hehehehee Anyways, the owner of the gym, himself a professional bodybuilder came up to us while we were training, interupted (of course, not while we were executing any movements - LOL) and said to me, "Are those REALLY all of your kids?!" I said, "Yes, REALLY hehehhee" Then he said, "If you don't mind my asking, how old ARE YOU?!" Mind you, I looked like shit - NEVER wear ANY makeup to train and my hair hadn't been washed for two days. I replied, "Not at all. I am 34." He just walked away with his eyes wide, shaking his head abit. hehehehheeee
You see, now people look at my body and admire my accomplishments and are inspired to train hard and eat right or AT LEAST quit smoking or make a few dietary changes.
Do you see the difference?
I have been to other websites where people with eating disorders go for support. But there is a difference between openly discussing a basically "undiscussable issue" (because of the guilt associated with the disorder) to try and OVERCOME a problem and almost glorifying the desire to be thin REGARDLESS of the cost.
Go back and re-read your posts. I realize that much of what you wrote was said with tremendous sarcasm, but saw right through it and heard the self-loathing and misery.
Am I satisfied with my physique? To a great extent, YES. Could it be improved upon? Of course! If I was never able to get ANY BIGGER would I DIE of self-hatred?! ABSOLUTLEY NOT!! As a matter of fact, I am COMPLETELY satisfied with my size overall. I only need to add abit here and there to be more balanced and symmetrical (has to do with competition). As for my bf% ... that can be EASILY altered with diet and activity level. I have enough lean mass and the knowledge about how to do this....Besides, unless I have a shoot or a show, whether I am a smooth and sexy 20% or a lean and hard 12% or ripped up and dried out, ready to step out onto stage for a competition at 6% I am EQUALLY BEAUTIFUL and EQUALLY HAPPY!
Can you say the same about yourself? Tell me that if you gain TWO POUNDS YOU DON'T WIG?! Tell me that if your clothing doesn't get THE TEENIEST BIT tight, you DO NOT WIG?! Tell me that if you ARE NOT THE SKINNIEST CREATURE in the room, that YOU DO NOT WIG?!
Guess what? I don't HAVE TO WIG because I have my mass and it is all good.
Regardless of who I am on the outside - I am discovering who I am on the inside.... SHE IS PRETTY FUCKING COOL.
I suspect that it is the same with most of you, sadly, the world may never know as you spend too much time hating her and trying to keep her hidden.... sucks ass being numb. IT TRULY SUCKS ASS.
That is why I always tell women to BUILD MASS FIRST and worry about losing fat LATER.
What you do not understand is that MANY of the women here once had those eating disorders. I can't speak for everyone here, I can only speak for myself. Though I no longer engage in the behavior, the thoughts STILL COME. Yes, everytime there is a crisis in my life (and with the divorce hell I am in - BELIEVE ME... THERE IS NO SHORTAGE) my first reaction is that I am weak, I am small, I'll NEVER be anything, never amount to anything, am unlovable and DESERVE TO BE PUNISHED!!! But then I take a deep breath and realize that EVERY SINGLE ONE OF THESE STATEMENTS IS PURE BULLSHIT!
I AM STRONG and I AM BETTER THAN THAT!
What you don't understand is that yes, I used to get some kind of rush when people used to stare at me because I was so thin. They would raise their eyebrows and say, "My God, know one would have EVER guessed that you had four kids!" That is because I looked like a 15 year old KID who had a superfast metabolism.... either that or I just didn't eat (DUH!). And then they would say, "Well you must just be GENETICALLY like that." Because who in THIER RIGHT MIND would do THAT to themselves ON PURPOSE?!?!?! Ummmmm, NO, no genetics - I JUST STARVED AND WORK-OUTED TO DEATH.
Since I "snapped out of it" and decided that I wanted to be SOMETHING MORE, you are right, people DO STARE, but the look is not the same. Now people do not look at me as if I am a genetic freak (Women used to give me that "lucky bitch" stare of hate.). Now they STARE AT ME WITH PART ADMIRATION/ PART DISBELIEF. After all, how could a women who has had so many children and who is approaching her mid thirties POSSIBLY be so strong, self-confident, and sexy?!
Yesterday night at the gym I was payed A VERY HIGH compliment. I am training at a new gym w/my friend Fitness Chick. She is destined for the Olympia I believe. She is in THE BEST SHAPE OF HER LIFE (Her physique is FAR superior to mine.) and she is about ten years younger. She is AMAZINGLY BEAUTIFUL TO BOOT. There is no comparison. I feel driven and motivated by her.... she is a tremendous inspiration, yet I feel ZERO jealousy. She put the time and dedication into her physique and DESERVES every bit of the accolades that she receives. You must realize that next to her, I am all but invisible in the gym. But that is very cool with me as I am there to train and be better - not to "be on display". hehehehee Anyways, the owner of the gym, himself a professional bodybuilder came up to us while we were training, interupted (of course, not while we were executing any movements - LOL) and said to me, "Are those REALLY all of your kids?!" I said, "Yes, REALLY hehehhee" Then he said, "If you don't mind my asking, how old ARE YOU?!" Mind you, I looked like shit - NEVER wear ANY makeup to train and my hair hadn't been washed for two days. I replied, "Not at all. I am 34." He just walked away with his eyes wide, shaking his head abit. hehehehheeee
You see, now people look at my body and admire my accomplishments and are inspired to train hard and eat right or AT LEAST quit smoking or make a few dietary changes.
Do you see the difference?
I have been to other websites where people with eating disorders go for support. But there is a difference between openly discussing a basically "undiscussable issue" (because of the guilt associated with the disorder) to try and OVERCOME a problem and almost glorifying the desire to be thin REGARDLESS of the cost.
Go back and re-read your posts. I realize that much of what you wrote was said with tremendous sarcasm, but saw right through it and heard the self-loathing and misery.
Am I satisfied with my physique? To a great extent, YES. Could it be improved upon? Of course! If I was never able to get ANY BIGGER would I DIE of self-hatred?! ABSOLUTLEY NOT!! As a matter of fact, I am COMPLETELY satisfied with my size overall. I only need to add abit here and there to be more balanced and symmetrical (has to do with competition). As for my bf% ... that can be EASILY altered with diet and activity level. I have enough lean mass and the knowledge about how to do this....Besides, unless I have a shoot or a show, whether I am a smooth and sexy 20% or a lean and hard 12% or ripped up and dried out, ready to step out onto stage for a competition at 6% I am EQUALLY BEAUTIFUL and EQUALLY HAPPY!
Can you say the same about yourself? Tell me that if you gain TWO POUNDS YOU DON'T WIG?! Tell me that if your clothing doesn't get THE TEENIEST BIT tight, you DO NOT WIG?! Tell me that if you ARE NOT THE SKINNIEST CREATURE in the room, that YOU DO NOT WIG?!
Guess what? I don't HAVE TO WIG because I have my mass and it is all good.
Regardless of who I am on the outside - I am discovering who I am on the inside.... SHE IS PRETTY FUCKING COOL.
I suspect that it is the same with most of you, sadly, the world may never know as you spend too much time hating her and trying to keep her hidden.... sucks ass being numb. IT TRULY SUCKS ASS.
That is why I always tell women to BUILD MASS FIRST and worry about losing fat LATER.
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I am a member of the Thin Forum and I just wanted to reply to your "disgust" at us:
I hope that you all realize that your obsession with your bodies is no different than our obsessions with our bodies. You think that you are being healthy but I work out at a gym called Main Event Fitness in ATL and there are hundreds of people like you there. I have known and heard about more personal trainers and bodybuilders dropping dead than anorexics or bulimics. Our obsessions are not just about losing weight but having control, etc. I am sure that a lot of you have the same issues and that is why you have dedicated your life to perfecting and shaping your bodies. Please don't criticize us for doing what makes us feel good and gets us to our goal. I think that most of us our old enough to know right and wrong. I myself am 24 years old and married. Not all the people on the thin forum are clueless teenagers looking to lose weight. I need that website-I have made alot of friends there and those people are ALWAYS there when I need advice or have a problem. It is not a place for us to lure unsuspecting children in to make them binge and purge. I just want you all to understand that the Thinforum is a support group for most of us. Not all of us are ready to recover but in the mean time we have each other to go to and to me that is a wonderful thing!
I hope that you all realize that your obsession with your bodies is no different than our obsessions with our bodies. You think that you are being healthy but I work out at a gym called Main Event Fitness in ATL and there are hundreds of people like you there. I have known and heard about more personal trainers and bodybuilders dropping dead than anorexics or bulimics. Our obsessions are not just about losing weight but having control, etc. I am sure that a lot of you have the same issues and that is why you have dedicated your life to perfecting and shaping your bodies. Please don't criticize us for doing what makes us feel good and gets us to our goal. I think that most of us our old enough to know right and wrong. I myself am 24 years old and married. Not all the people on the thin forum are clueless teenagers looking to lose weight. I need that website-I have made alot of friends there and those people are ALWAYS there when I need advice or have a problem. It is not a place for us to lure unsuspecting children in to make them binge and purge. I just want you all to understand that the Thinforum is a support group for most of us. Not all of us are ready to recover but in the mean time we have each other to go to and to me that is a wonderful thing!
Gladiola
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Kaizen,
That was a wonderful post! So eloquent, articulate & inspirational!
According to American Anorexia Bulemia Assoc: One percent of teenage girls in the U.S. develop anorexia nervosa and up to 10% of those may die as a result.
It is classified as a mental disorder & disease, is it not?
Whereas eating a clean diet & strength training are proven to have a myriad of *benefits* to one's health.
Spatts makes a good point that perhaps we are 'obsessive' [I admit I am!], but we are obsessing over something that brings positive changes to our bodies, health, spirit, & lives.
That was a wonderful post! So eloquent, articulate & inspirational!
According to American Anorexia Bulemia Assoc: One percent of teenage girls in the U.S. develop anorexia nervosa and up to 10% of those may die as a result.
It is classified as a mental disorder & disease, is it not?
Whereas eating a clean diet & strength training are proven to have a myriad of *benefits* to one's health.
Spatts makes a good point that perhaps we are 'obsessive' [I admit I am!], but we are obsessing over something that brings positive changes to our bodies, health, spirit, & lives.
Spatterson-
I don't have scientific evidence but in my experience I have lost more people around me to deaths dealing with bodybuilding than with anorexia or bulimia. I am not saying that bodybuilding is wrong--all I am saying is that it is also dangerous for some people who go overboard. I am just angry about all the people who are coming to the Thinforum trying to motivate us and save us--trying to tempt us to come to your side. We do what we do because it is what we do. Just like for you all-it is a way of life for us. All the negativity and people acting like they are offering us this alternative we had never considered before is annoying. I think that most of us know that eating a balanced diet and doing cardio everyday is a great way to lose weight but eating disorders are not all about losing weight. I read on the ThinForum that one person decided to come here to chat instead of there because this was more what they were looking for. I am glad for that. I think a lot of people on the ThinForum are in the wrong place but for those of us who need it and truly value the advice we get from there---it is the absolute right place.
I don't have scientific evidence but in my experience I have lost more people around me to deaths dealing with bodybuilding than with anorexia or bulimia. I am not saying that bodybuilding is wrong--all I am saying is that it is also dangerous for some people who go overboard. I am just angry about all the people who are coming to the Thinforum trying to motivate us and save us--trying to tempt us to come to your side. We do what we do because it is what we do. Just like for you all-it is a way of life for us. All the negativity and people acting like they are offering us this alternative we had never considered before is annoying. I think that most of us know that eating a balanced diet and doing cardio everyday is a great way to lose weight but eating disorders are not all about losing weight. I read on the ThinForum that one person decided to come here to chat instead of there because this was more what they were looking for. I am glad for that. I think a lot of people on the ThinForum are in the wrong place but for those of us who need it and truly value the advice we get from there---it is the absolute right place.
Gladiola-
How do you know that this is not a positive thing for us in some ways? Having my clothes fall off of me is an extremely positive thing for me. Having my husband want me 24/7 is a positive thing for me. Walking down the street and knowing that I starting to look damn good is a positive thing for me. Knowing that food does not control my life is a positive thing for me. Knowing that if I do slip up and eat something bad I can go back and erase it is a very positive thing for me.
Anyway-yes it is a mental illness and I am aware that there are several issues that are involved with my eating disorder and it is not just losing weight. That is the main reason why I get so frustrated with people from this site coming to the thinforum and trying to offer us this new fitness lifestyle.
You know...no one knows how long we have on this earth. We could be living our normal life, working hard at our desk and all of a sudden...some asshole decides to fly a plane into our office building and were all dead. I want to live my life looking good and feeling like I have control over my life. I don't want to die and have all these regrets about how I never took control.
How do you know that this is not a positive thing for us in some ways? Having my clothes fall off of me is an extremely positive thing for me. Having my husband want me 24/7 is a positive thing for me. Walking down the street and knowing that I starting to look damn good is a positive thing for me. Knowing that food does not control my life is a positive thing for me. Knowing that if I do slip up and eat something bad I can go back and erase it is a very positive thing for me.
Anyway-yes it is a mental illness and I am aware that there are several issues that are involved with my eating disorder and it is not just losing weight. That is the main reason why I get so frustrated with people from this site coming to the thinforum and trying to offer us this new fitness lifestyle.
You know...no one knows how long we have on this earth. We could be living our normal life, working hard at our desk and all of a sudden...some asshole decides to fly a plane into our office building and were all dead. I want to live my life looking good and feeling like I have control over my life. I don't want to die and have all these regrets about how I never took control.
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