Anavar or Winny?? What's the better cutter?

[hesnobradpitt]

Winni .

Brad.

 

[EliteFitnessGuy]

thanks for the correction in regards to aromatize Iv'e noticed a friend on prolonged use that experienced that is why I mentioned it. I turly think var is less liver toxic and for those that really are trying to figure out which to take winni will give you joint pain in a couple weeks usually in the elbows. A severe pain issue. Anavar will never do that. Your strength gains with var are crazy high if you can stay on it for 10 weeks thats ultimate. if you stay on winni for 12 weeks you will no doubt have some pain in your backside im sure you can ifgure out what those might be. Creatine is perfect with Anavar because of the expanded ATP.

Reference the fallowing for indepth info on the two in question

Bodybuilding.com - Big Cat - In Depth Anavar Profile!
Bodybuilding.com - Big Cat - In Depth Winstrol Profile!

Hi, what doses of Anavar would you recommend for a man weighing 95 kilos (210 lbs)?

I just f*cked up my last cycle. I planned to run T-bol for 8 weeks (50 mg/day), but in these doses, it showed to be ineffective, and after 3 weeks I added Winstrol. The effect on strength and hardness started to be visible after mere 9 days, and now I have been running these orals for 8 1/2 weeks already (T-bol for 3 weeks, and 25 mg T-bol+30-50 mg Winstrol for 5 1/2 weeks). I planned to go slowly down this week, but I have to speed it up. I am not afraid of my liver (I have been taking Essentiale Forte), but after I dared to increase the dose of Winstrol up to 50 mg/day, I started to shed somewhat too much. I am prone to male pattern baldness (I have been on various kinds of therapy for more than 12 years) and the joint pain after Winstrol is also almost unbearable (I ran it already before, with the same result).

Hence I would want to try nandrolone with Anavar in my next cycle. But I can't decide, if I can run e.g. 30 mg Anavar/day for 10-12 weeks, together with nandrolone. Or if I should rather use it only during the first month (40-50 mg/day), and then again one month after nandrolone, in small doses 10-30 mg/day, which shouldn't suppress HTPA and could help to keep the gains made on nandrolone.

Nandrolone, T-bol and Winstrol are the only steroids that I have taken so far.

 

[hesnobradpitt]

Hi, what doses of Anavar would you recommend for a man weighing 95 kilos (210 lbs)?

I just f*cked up my last cycle. I planned to run T-bol for 8 weeks (50 mg/day), but in these doses, it showed to be ineffective, and after 3 weeks I added Winstrol. The effect on strength and hardness started to be visible after mere 9 days, and now I have been running these orals for 8 1/2 weeks already (T-bol for 3 weeks, and 25 mg T-bol+30-50 mg Winstrol for 5 1/2 weeks). I planned to go slowly down this week, but I have to speed it up. I am not afraid of my liver (I have been taking Essentiale Forte), but after I dared to increase the dose of Winstrol up to 50 mg/day, I started to shed somewhat too much. I am prone to male pattern baldness (I have been on various kinds of therapy for more than 12 years) and the joint pain after Winstrol is also almost unbearable (I ran it already before, with the same result).

Hence I would want to try nandrolone with Anavar in my next cycle. But I can't decide, if I can run e.g. 30 mg Anavar/day for 10-12 weeks, together with nandrolone. Or if I should rather use it only during the first month (40-50 mg/day), and then again one month after nandrolone, in small doses 10-30 mg/day, which shouldn't suppress HTPA and could help to keep the gains made on nandrolone.

Nandrolone, T-bol and Winstrol are the only steroids that I have taken so far.

You need to keep it simple mate .

T'bol IMO losses its mass gaining affect after 5 wks for me .

When you say nandro do you mean you are running decca and at what dose per wk , with not test ?

If you are prone to baldness and winni makes you shed i wouldn't touch it .

Brad.

 

[EliteFitnessGuy]

I stayed between 20-30 mg/day during my previous cycle with T-bol and Winstrol. I ran it for 5 weeks and except some cystic acne, I observed no ill effects. It was very effective for strength; in fact, I gained a pretty impressive amount of strength even at such a mild dose. But only very small gains in size.

Now I observe that the level of shedding is really suspiciously high; although the amount of old hairs obviously prevails (I am short cut and "dead" hairs are thus as short as my last cut one month ago.), many long hairs also appear on my hands, when I applicate minoxidil every evening, which suggests that I initiated some telogen effluvium. In general, the amount of hair on my hands is clearly higher than normally. This is a warning that I shouldn't run Winstrol anymore.

I have been running T-bol for 9 weeks already, and it is true that I wanted to discontinue it one month ago, when Winstrol started to work. Except water retention and weight gain it namely produced virtually nothing. However, I felt somewhat tired, when I was running Winstrol alone, so I added at least 25 mg/day. The water retention probably helps in sugar loading in muscle cells.

And as for my planned cycle, please, don't recommend anything like testosterone to me. I don't want to look like Kojak. Thanks to my regular application, I have lost only half an inch of my hair in the front so far, and I don't want to sacrifice it because of steroids. Since I weigh over 90 kilos (200 lbs), I would want to run at least 300-400 mg nandrolone/month transdermally (e.g. nandrolone powder mixed in Phlojel Ultra or something similar). I ran nandrolone in my first steroid mini-cycle 8 years ago. I had only 6x200 mg for 6 weeks, and although I achieved no increase in size, strength gains were quite nice during the 2nd month of use. Unfortunately, at that time, I didn't know anything about PCT and ca. 1 month after the last injection I experienced a depressive crash, during which I lost everything that I gained. This time, I would want to run small doses of Anavar several weeks after the last application of nandrolone, which could help in maintaining the gains.

 

[perryscoon]

Fun facts.

Neither cut.

They both build muscle without water retention which gives that impression.


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With all due respect, biulding muscle without water retention is cutting in my book. If it gives the physical appearance of cutting then that's in fact what it has done.

I think means that it does not burn fat. However, it does seem much easier to burn fat when on drugs like Var and Tren than drugs like test and dbol.

 

[BlackIron220]

winny

 

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TREN

j/k i have no idea

 

[HarryHarry]

Better for cutting - winny. better overall - anavar

 

[badsanta488]

Var never really did much for me with cutting per se, but worked nicely to retain mass while on a cut. So i guess you could consider that 'cutting'. Never tried winny but it seems like you would get more bang for your buck in terms of potency. Var is nice, but is it worth the price?

Have any of you guys ever stacked the two? I've got winny coming in any day now and would like to burn through the rest of my var so I was thinking of doing something like this:

1-6: Winny 50mg ED
1-4: Var 60mg ED

There would be a base of course (prop)

 

[informer112]

I wonder who has used both together before and what the results were like? I should try that someday.