Anavar & Creatine

[LaurenMarie]

Hi All

I have heard that Var and Creatine are a good combo but want to know whether this is the case for women too, if so how much creatine per day do you recommend?

I have just started a cycle of VAR @ 5mg per day and am thinking of supllementing creatine if it would be beneficial.

Thanks Ladies!
L

 

[ironwings]

Welcome to EF.

Just a heads up, Creatine can make you retain water - it flushes water to your muscles for a pump. I personally don't think it is beneficial enough to take unless you are an endurance athlete. However, some do really well on it. We have several ladies on here who use it successfully. Hopefully they will post up for you.

It won't hurt to try it. You'll notice any weight gain the first week and you can adjust at that point.

Is this your first cycle with VAR?

 

[Thandie]

Welcome to EF.

Just a heads up, Creatine can make you retain water - it flushes water to your muscles for a pump. I personally don't think it is beneficial enough to take unless you are an endurance athlete. However, some do really well on it. We have several ladies on here who use it successfully. Hopefully they will post up for you.

It won't hurt to try it. You'll notice any weight gain the first week and you can adjust at that point.

Is this your first cycle with VAR?

Hi Lauren,

I have taken creatine and it did made me retain water. Some creatine, however are better then others, so you'll have to find out what works best for you.

 

[OMEGA]

it does seem to bloat women

but if you use the cleanest forms ( Creapure, RawMCC, ad CEE) one should be ok.

Also adjust dosage patterns and try to have it at night or just pre lift

OR take Every other day.

Women seem to ru into issues when they take it everyday or multiple times per day

 

[slat1]

I am one of those people who does not respond to creatine at all. I always wonder what everyone is talking about.

 

[RottenWillow]

it does seem to bloat women

but if you use the cleanest forms ( Creapure, RawMCC, and CEE) one should be ok.

+1 on creatine ethyl ester. I've not experienced bloat on that form of it at all.

 

[needtogetaas]

it does seem to bloat women

but if you use the cleanest forms ( Creapure, RawMCC, ad CEE) one should be ok.

Also adjust dosage patterns and try to have it at night or just pre lift

OR take Every other day.

Women seem to ru into issues when they take it everyday or multiple times per day

I was going to say this.

 

[slat1]

What do you guys think of Will Brink's research on the different types of creatine?
I find it to be thorough and very informative.

 

[LaurenMarie]

Hi all


Thanks for the replies,

I need a little more help please!

I started to use a creatine supplement for a few days earlier in the week (one specifically for women - Kre a Fem) and did feel that I retained much more water, however I have also just completed my first week on VAR at a 5mg per day dose and my stomach is really bloated. I thought this was the creatine but it doesn't seem to be going down and toady it has got worse throughout the day and I haven't had any creatine.

Is this a typical side for VAR or should I worry that I have been sold something else?

Thanks!

L

 

[slat1]

Var will not cause any bloating. Post up what you eat on a daily basis.

 

[LaurenMarie]

6am - Coffee before cardio
8:30am - Protein shake with oats & glutamine
11:30 am - Chicken/turkey breast, 3 brocolli florets & 1 little potato
13:30 - Tuna and Brown Rice with olive oil
16:00 - Protein shake with water
18:30 - lean protein meat or fish & veggies
20:30 - Protein Shake with water

Other sides so far is loss of appetite, I have changed my diet to reduce carbs from meals after the tuna and rice, I have had no strength gains yet.

Thanks Slat

L

 

[OMEGA]

I was going to say this.

From talking with my girlfriend ( who is VERY fit)
and ladies like IronWings. They seem to respond so well to creatine that there is a type of supersaturation and thus "spill over" into the body which causes bloat Even with the cleaner forms.

I am coming to believe that Females are actually "super responders" to the creatines and thus maybe need half or 1/3rd the doses and dose patterns males typically use.

Thus using Cee ( fast acting creatine) ONLY pre workout, and then maybe a bit more 3 times a week to maintain shy high ATP stores are in order to get all the results minus the bloat.

The above differs from male usage in that the males typically use Creatines/ CEE daily and multiple times a day.

 

[ironwings]

It is definitely the creatine. This is so common in women as Omega stated. The var could have that impact the first week or so only because your hormones are changing and any time your body goes through change it goes into a slight survival mode and water is easily retained. But that would not last and on 5mg - I've never seen that happen.

Creatine builds up in the system and water retention does not happen right away. It could take a week or two of frequent use. (It took me a week recently to feel the effects). If you are having red meat every day or 5 or 6 times a week you probably do not have low creatine levels. If you overload your system with it and your trianing isn't intense enough to use it all - sides occur. Honestly, this I believe is the difference between men and woman. Woman tend to not train as hard (of course not us EF ladies ;-) and are not using the all of the available creatine. I find that creatine is best for those who are endurance athletes or trian like a crazy women like I do. Why did you decide to supplement with creatine?

I do prefer Raw MCC by agxsports.com. Just use half the dose on non workout days and as your body adjust you can switch to pre workout.

I don't know your BMR or stats but I imagine you are not eating enough calories. Especially if trying to gain muscle with Var. I find when I go too low in calories and my training stays intense, I get so bloated I feel I could pop. Drink tons of water and green tea. It will pass - it just may take a few days.

Stop the creatine for now btw. Let me know how it goes...

 

[LaurenMarie]

Thanks Guys

I train like a loon too which is why I thought I may benefit and alsoI heard about the benefits of a VAR/Creatine combo, This is my first VAR cycle and I was worried as you can imagine that I had been given something that wasn't VAR,

I may be eating too few calories as you suggest, but because I struggle so much to lose weight I am nervous about increasing them above 1200 a day. It has only been recently that I have amended my diet to ensure I take on board more protein (aiming for 130g+, 5"6 and 136 pounds) and I think i have also taken my carbs too low to do this, I do cardio every morning (or 6 days at least)and lift in the evening 5 times a week, cardio has become a struggle though.

I have probably put my body into shock mode like you suggest, all of a sudden it has had VAR for the first time, lost it's beloved carbs (or alot of them) and had some creatine thrown in for good measure!

Ironwings - your journal rocks!