Anabolix X Extreme

[AX_Ryan]

Thats bold to compare it to illegal orals. Let me ask, where do you get the formulas from? The good compounds are already illegal, they are also researched for decades, and not that harsh on lipids. Could you supply me with a research write up that also has comparitive results with of illegal orals? Would you say they are as hepatoxic as Halo? Did AX also compare the bloodwork of a test and lets say Dbol cycle as to of a pure SD or PP cycle? On AM their are lots of blood tests posted after an illegal cycle that came out to be normal after a proper PCT, but then you get on the legals and it looks as though are you are death warmed over,

Again, (ignore legality) why should we buy these products?

I disagree totally. These compounds were also researched and patented decades ago.................just never banned.

There have been many bloodwork comparisons done. Someone runs an Anadrol cycle then gets bloodwork and then a Phera-Plex and gets blood work............Phera-Plex will look great compared.

Please make sure you read our full writeups and even dig into pubmed. You will see plenty of data. The formula's come from some amazing chemists that work or major pharm companies and can dig through archives.

I cannot ignore legallity because it is a MAJOR reason to take a product like Phera-Plex. Do some research on DMT. It is a super clean oral and blows many of the illegal AAS steroids out of the water.

Here is the Superdrol Write-up

http://forums.1fast400.com/topic7929.html

Here is the Phera-Plex write-up

http://www.anabolicx.com/articles/pheraplex2.pdf

You will never see a writeup from us comparing to AAS. We would be in big trouble from the big bad wolf. I cannot argue this anymore. BUT one of our chemists will be in our forum next week for a Q&A and you can feel free to ask away.

 

[hankes64]

Ok, where did the ideas for these compounds come from decades ago? I'll try to obtain some research from a third party chemist instead of reading a sales pitch from BN. The short term effects might be small with PP and SD, but what will happen in the long run? Did you know it takes as little as 6 weeks of lowered HDL (single digits and lower end of double like you suggest) and heighten LDL to cause enough blockage, without being cleared by HDL in that time, to cause cardiac arrest. Of course this is years down the line though, by that time the blockage becomes almost impossible to clear. Interesting.

 

[AX_Ryan]

I'll try to obtain some research from a third party chemist instead of reading a sales pitch from BN.

Please do. All the info in the writeups is acuate you will find and pulled from the old research. Each compound had years of trials done prior to its patent. That is all I can say on this topic.

 

[hankes64]

Thank you. That is all.

 

[pdaddy]

"You must spread some Karma around before giving it to hankes64 again."

 

[PolfaJelfa]

AX, Thanks for the education on DMT and Pheraplex not beign a plant sterol. I was under the wrong impression because of the name. Nothing wrong with plant sterols though...they have been proven to be very potent as im sure the Pheraplex is. Anything that is good is set up to be banned. That simple....if the stuff is goign to be banned that means it works. Now the health issues thats each users choice.

 

[AX_Ryan]

I just got a copy of Anabolics 2006 in the mail. Superdrol got a very positive write up by W. Llewellyn. Pheraplex (madol) did as well.

 

[PolfaJelfa]

Awesome.

 

[hankes64]

bump for anyone who has questions or is curious

 

[lanky]

After reading this post a just have a few comments. number 1- good to hear that the PP is only a 5 alpha isomer(i cant stand the thought of the 5b on some of these products(50/50 mixture of 5a,5b does not occur in synthesis of all products,,ahh i will talk about that in another post, 2- yes, HDL and LDL are very important to optimal health long term(no one wants a coronary artery bypass graft or stent , ). 3- as for the safety of the two main AX products, yes research of dromostanolone( 2alpha methyl dht) in certain populations has been noted also its effect on the liver,. its properties of an AAS is valid. superdrol (2alpha,17alpha methyl dht) is similar, and 17 alpha methyl will increase half life, to what degree i cant say right this moment, (i have two theories). 4-cholestatic jaundice is possible when there is blockage, enlargement, stasis of gallbladder function (interaction between cholesterol, bilirubin, AST, ALT(which is noted during the use of 17 alpha methyl steroids. 5- back to the phera plex- i cant comment on its kinetics, only my suspected metabolites which is 17 alpha methyl dht. 2-ene will reduce and do a keto-enol type rxn and hopefully keto will form as the favored product. (just a theory, i base this on no scientific evidence , just my understanding of organic chemistry and structure function relationship with the 3HSD enzyme.

It is grest to see that some people who posted on this are concerned about their health,