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Hey - I'm a HUGE supporter of E.F. - but what the hell separates A.X.E.'s products from "everyone" else's - they are all the same ingredients.........................am I missing something
 
bump - not looking for trouble - just the "truth"
 
I believe they are just derivatives from already illegal orals, they change the compound a bit, perhaps has the same effect but a different vehicle. Such as Methylasteron (ring any bells?) and 2-ene.
 
Oh I almost forgot, you may want to email Designer Supplements about this, they after created them and licensed them over to AX.

Also not looking for trouble
 
hankes64 said:
Oh I almost forgot, you may want to email Designer Supplements about this, they after created them and licensed them over to AX.

Also not looking for trouble


None of of us are - but we know when someone "hasn't" struck gold
 
itlnstln said:
bump - not looking for trouble - just the "truth"

I know you ain't,we both know how people get though. I gotta say though i got a sample of thier stimulant x last week and it did give me pretty good energy.
 
buffalo said:
I know you ain't,we both know how people get though. I gotta say though i got a sample of thier stimulant x last week and it did give me pretty good energy.

so does ephedrine
 
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Ill tell you what. I havent recieved jack from them. Zip. Not 1 pill. And ill say they have good products. Plant Sterols are very potent.. i predict that they may well become illegal in the next few years. They actually work and thus require PCT, Anti-E etc.

No one is claiming to have struck gold. But honestly they guys make some good products from their list of ingredients. Nothing wrong with a company making good stuff for a fair price. People make their own choices. If you dont like them thats fine too.

Obviously you cant compare results to AAS....youd have to be stupid to do so. But for those looking for that particular route its a good choice!
 
PolfaJelfa said:
Ill tell you what. I havent recieved jack from them. Zip. Not 1 pill. And ill say they have good products. Plant Sterols are very potent.. i predict that they may well become illegal in the next few years. They actually work and thus require PCT, Anti-E etc.

No one is claiming to have struck gold. But honestly they guys make some good products from their list of ingredients. Nothing wrong with a company making good stuff for a fair price. People make their own choices. If you dont like them thats fine too.

Obviously you cant compare results to AAS....youd have to be stupid to do so. But for those looking for that particular route its a good choice!


Good info - thanks, my friend
 
They sent me the entire stack to test out, should be interesting, gonna use it first and after that runs out start up my real program/

RADAR
 
I hope to get mine soon too :) I might give the sterol to a freind though as i dont do orals and i dont want to stress the liveru.
 
Ok then for the mass!

Bro i can count on you for a liver transplant right :)
 
hankes64 said:
Their anabolics aren't plant sterols....


Bump for more info
 
hankes64 said:
Their anabolics aren't plant sterols....
Yep, not plant sterols.

Phera-Plex is 100% DMT (Deoxy-Methyl-Test). Just run a search on google for "DMT Steroid".

Same results as illegal AAS.................
 
itlnstln said:
Hey - I'm a HUGE supporter of E.F. - but what the hell separates A.X.E.'s products from "everyone" else's - they are all the same ingredients.........................am I missing something
Everyone of our products is innovative and had not ever been released. Superdrol was originally developed by Designer Supplements and then was licensed solely to us. But every other product we make is an original that only other companies have coppied.

Take StimulantX, two years in the works. Or Retain, over one year of development.

Rebound XT is just ATD, BUT was the first ATD supplement on the market.

Phera-Plex, we are the only company that has synthesis on the 5a isomer of 2-ene. Many companies have released copies BUT not one has got the powerful 5a isomer. Everone that copies is a 5a/5b 50/50 mix. Which is about 40% less powerfull.
 
AX_Ryan said:
Everyone of our products is innovative and had not ever been released. Superdrol was originally developed by Designer Supplements and then was licensed solely to us. But every other product we make is an original that only other companies have coppied.

Take StimulantX, two years in the works. Or Retain, over one year of development.

Rebound XT is just ATD, BUT was the first ATD supplement on the market.

Phera-Plex, we are the only company that has synthesis on the 5a isomer of 2-ene. Many companies have released copies BUT not one has got the powerful 5a isomer. Everone that copies is a 5a/5b 50/50 mix. Which is about 40% less powerfull.

Innovation and quality is key. AX is a top notch place ;)
 
How do you these are safe on lipids? Obviously its methylated and was wondering how big of a dent it will make in my HDL and LDL
 
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hankes64 said:
How do you these are safe on lipids? Obviously its methylated and was wondering how big of a dent it will make in my HDL and LDL

Excellent question.

I wonder if anyone has gotten any blood work done before and after using their products?
 
AX_Ryan said:
Yep, not plant sterols.

Phera-Plex is 100% DMT (Deoxy-Methyl-Test). Just run a search on google for "DMT Steroid".

Same results as illegal AAS.................


thats a bold statement!!
 
justinjones1963 said:
Excellent question.

I wonder if anyone has gotten any blood work done before and after using their products?

Yeah a few of my friends have, they came back piss poor. HDL was low, very low and LDL went through the roof, they also had very low test levels. But a few others came back slightly skewed but fine. I'm just wondering if anytime was going to be put in to ensure the safety of its users, since little of us know what its about.
 
hankes64 said:
A few of my friends gained 15lbs in 3 weeks from SD.


Why's Superdrol Discontinued?????
 
hankes64 said:
Congress is trying to ban it because its catching on to athletes and such and I guess a few were hospitalize with jaundice.


Was it properly tested before release?

So this means I can't get it "anywhere" now? (even if I WANT jaundice)
 
hankes64 said:
How do you these are safe on lipids? Obviously its methylated and was wondering how big of a dent it will make in my HDL and LDL
They will def effect lipids like any other adrogenic oral.
 
itlnstln said:
Why's Superdrol Discontinued?????
Its getting banned. You can still get it online if you do a google search.

I think it would also be impossible for Superdrol to cause jaundice. It can help if the person is abusing it or has had liver issues/problems in the past.

I know that is not the reason we discontinued it.
 
AX_Ryan said:
Its getting banned. You can still get it online if you do a google search.

I think it would also be impossible for Superdrol to cause jaundice. It can help if the person is abusing it or has had liver issues/problems in the past.

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Hows that? Its methylated correct? Also, on your testing of these products (assume you guys tested it for awhile) how were the lipids? What should one expect?
 
hankes64 said:
AX_Ryan said:
Its getting banned. You can still get it online if you do a google search.

I think it would also be impossible for Superdrol to cause jaundice. It can help if the person is abusing it or has had liver issues/problems in the past.

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Hows that? Its methylated correct? Also, on your testing of these products (assume you guys tested it for awhile) how were the lipids? What should one expect?
How is what? (Not being rude)

We did a ton of blood work. Superdrol is a Di-Methyl and it destroys lipids. High LDL and low HDL (Single Digits in some cases). That is why we always said 3-4 weeks on a cycle max.

Phera-Plex is a single Methyl group. Still affects lipids but about half as bad. If you do some searches on other boards there are lots of bloodworks that have been posted. We have never tried to hide that they stress the liver and affect lipids.

BUT for someone to get fatty liver syndrome (precursor to jaundice) it takes more than 4 weeks at the highest 40mg dose. I heard of one guy that happend to and I cannot go into much detail. He tried to sue and it was dropped due to alcohol abuse.........bigtime.
 
AX_Ryan said:
How is what? (Not being rude)

We did a ton of blood work. Superdrol is a Di-Methyl and it destroys lipids. High LDL and low HDL (Single Digits in some cases). That is why we always said 3-4 weeks on a cycle max.

I was referring to jaundice.

A lipid profile like that is what makes that so dangerous, am I correct? What if one doesnt recover from the HDL dropping that much? What to say this wouldn't cause cardiovascular problems? I know you guys dont hide that its awful on lipids, but man I saw a few bloodwork posts (and fromw hat my friends showed me) and it was terrible, in your research any long term cardio damage reported?

Why should we use this product?
 
hankes64 said:
Why should we use this product?
Why, Superdrol? Don't use it. There will be none left within a month or so from any retailers. It is just as toxic as many other illegal AAS orals. Many.

Phera-Plex? Because it is just as safe and has a better profile than most AAS orals. Any oral AAS on the market has the same attributes this is no different you just don't risk the legal issues with lets say Dbol or anav.............

Most people agree that take the product and get bloodwork it is one of the cleanest orals they have ever ran as far as gains and side effects.
 
AX_Ryan said:
Why, Superdrol? Don't use it. There will be none left within a month or so from any retailers. It is just as toxic as many other illegal AAS orals. Many.

Phera-Plex? Because it is just as safe and has a better profile than most AAS orals. Any oral AAS on the market has the same attributes this is no different you just don't risk the legal issues with lets say Dbol or anav.............

Most people agree that take the product and get bloodwork it is one of the cleanest orals they have ever ran as far as gains and side effects.

Thats bold to compare it to illegal orals. Let me ask, where do you get the formulas from? The good compounds are already illegal, they are also researched for decades, and not that harsh on lipids. Could you supply me with a research write up that also has comparitive results with of illegal orals? Would you say they are as hepatoxic as Halo? Did AX also compare the bloodwork of a test and lets say Dbol cycle as to of a pure SD or PP cycle? On AM their are lots of blood tests posted after an illegal cycle that came out to be normal after a proper PCT, but then you get on the legals and it looks as though are you are death warmed over,

Again, (ignore legality) why should we buy these products?
 
hankes64 said:
Thats bold to compare it to illegal orals. Let me ask, where do you get the formulas from? The good compounds are already illegal, they are also researched for decades, and not that harsh on lipids. Could you supply me with a research write up that also has comparitive results with of illegal orals? Would you say they are as hepatoxic as Halo? Did AX also compare the bloodwork of a test and lets say Dbol cycle as to of a pure SD or PP cycle? On AM their are lots of blood tests posted after an illegal cycle that came out to be normal after a proper PCT, but then you get on the legals and it looks as though are you are death warmed over,

Again, (ignore legality) why should we buy these products?
I disagree totally. These compounds were also researched and patented decades ago.................just never banned.

There have been many bloodwork comparisons done. Someone runs an Anadrol cycle then gets bloodwork and then a Phera-Plex and gets blood work............Phera-Plex will look great compared.

Please make sure you read our full writeups and even dig into pubmed. You will see plenty of data. The formula's come from some amazing chemists that work or major pharm companies and can dig through archives.

I cannot ignore legallity because it is a MAJOR reason to take a product like Phera-Plex. Do some research on DMT. It is a super clean oral and blows many of the illegal AAS steroids out of the water.

Here is the Superdrol Write-up

http://forums.1fast400.com/topic7929.html

Here is the Phera-Plex write-up

http://www.anabolicx.com/articles/pheraplex2.pdf

You will never see a writeup from us comparing to AAS. We would be in big trouble from the big bad wolf. I cannot argue this anymore. BUT one of our chemists will be in our forum next week for a Q&A and you can feel free to ask away.
 
Ok, where did the ideas for these compounds come from decades ago? I'll try to obtain some research from a third party chemist instead of reading a sales pitch from BN. The short term effects might be small with PP and SD, but what will happen in the long run? Did you know it takes as little as 6 weeks of lowered HDL (single digits and lower end of double like you suggest) and heighten LDL to cause enough blockage, without being cleared by HDL in that time, to cause cardiac arrest. Of course this is years down the line though, by that time the blockage becomes almost impossible to clear. Interesting.
 
hankes64 said:
I'll try to obtain some research from a third party chemist instead of reading a sales pitch from BN.
Please do. All the info in the writeups is acuate you will find and pulled from the old research. Each compound had years of trials done prior to its patent. That is all I can say on this topic.
 
AX, Thanks for the education on DMT and Pheraplex not beign a plant sterol. I was under the wrong impression because of the name. Nothing wrong with plant sterols though...they have been proven to be very potent as im sure the Pheraplex is. Anything that is good is set up to be banned. That simple....if the stuff is goign to be banned that means it works. Now the health issues thats each users choice.
 
I just got a copy of Anabolics 2006 in the mail. Superdrol got a very positive write up by W. Llewellyn. Pheraplex (madol) did as well.
 
After reading this post a just have a few comments. number 1- good to hear that the PP is only a 5 alpha isomer(i cant stand the thought of the 5b on some of these products(50/50 mixture of 5a,5b does not occur in synthesis of all products,,ahh i will talk about that in another post, 2- yes, HDL and LDL are very important to optimal health long term(no one wants a coronary artery bypass graft or stent , ). 3- as for the safety of the two main AX products, yes research of dromostanolone( 2alpha methyl dht) in certain populations has been noted also its effect on the liver,. its properties of an AAS is valid. superdrol (2alpha,17alpha methyl dht) is similar, and 17 alpha methyl will increase half life, to what degree i cant say right this moment, (i have two theories). 4-cholestatic jaundice is possible when there is blockage, enlargement, stasis of gallbladder function (interaction between cholesterol, bilirubin, AST, ALT(which is noted during the use of 17 alpha methyl steroids. 5- back to the phera plex- i cant comment on its kinetics, only my suspected metabolites which is 17 alpha methyl dht. 2-ene will reduce and do a keto-enol type rxn and hopefully keto will form as the favored product. (just a theory, i base this on no scientific evidence , just my understanding of organic chemistry and structure function relationship with the 3HSD enzyme.

It is grest to see that some people who posted on this are concerned about their health,
 
hankes64 said:
Not just concerned about my health, but the health of others that don't know any better.
if you look at the guides and manuals posted by the representatives from anabolic xtreme you will see that we understand that these products are dangerous if misused and we give pivotal importance to safety both ON and post cycle.

In short, our shit works... when you compare our stuff to certain other supplements out there that promise to boost testosterone by 1600%, you certainly know what works and what does not.

AX products SHOULD NOT be used by anyone below 21.
 
Well, hello AX members i want to tell you that i ve bought all ur products line and more than once.

U can look the guy in the avatar, it is really me after a superdrol cycle but i do not believe a second when u say Superdrol is stronger than the strongest illegal orals on the market (Anadrol) i also do not believe you a seconds when u re telling us that ur products boost testo at 1600% and i skip some percents...
Superdrol should be 20% as androgenic as the reference standard methyl-test, and 400-800% as anabolic, while M1T is 910-1600%, and Anadrol closer to 300%, while being twice as androgenic as Superdrol, mg for mg

Phera plex write up: >>>> Phera plex is 40% as androgenic than testosterone! and 150% as anabolic!!!

So, We should stop to buy testosterone&Esters...
huh?
I think u go to far when u tell us that percents. we are not all that idiots.



I show u my AX products:

3x superdrol, 5x perfect cycle, 4x retain, 4x PCT, 3x ReboundXT, 2x Rampage, 1x Phera-plex :( , 1x Ergo Max LMG, 1x Prostanazol.
 
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random said:
Well, hello AX members i want to tell you that i ve bought all ur products line and more than once.

So, We should stop to buy testosterone&Esters...
huh?
I think u go to far when u tell us that percents. we are not all that idiots.

I show u my AX products:

3x superdrol, 5x perfect cycle, 4x retain, 4x PCT, 3x ReboundXT, 2x Rampage, 1x Phera-plex :( , 1x Ergo Max LMG, 1x Prostanazol.
Thank you for the support and following our product line.

Check out the new Anabolics 2006 book by William Llewellyn. It ranks Superdrol as one of the all time great orals.

I don't do the write-ups be I believe they pull the %'s based on the standard methyl-test. (which itself is a horrible thing). Bottom line the %'s are acurate
 
AX_Ryan said:
Thank you for the support and following our product line.

Check out the new Anabolics 2006 book by William Llewellyn. It ranks Superdrol as one of the all time great orals.

I don't do the write-ups be I believe they pull the %'s based on the standard methyl-test. (which itself is a horrible thing). Bottom line the %'s are acurate

The Anabolics 2006 book has test results of your product compared to other legal , once legal, and illegal drugs?
 
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