An open letter to users of this site

[KCBARBELLJOSEPH]

How I am supposed to trust anyone on this site?

I recently found out you can buy "stars" and "karma" points. I am going to brutally honest here, what kind of fucking shit is that? Isn't karma supposed to show new members someone else can be trusted? Why would this site allow someone to simply pay their way to that position. I will tell you why, to sell they're bullshit products.

Now, here's what of two things will happen. This post will be deleted, which will only prove to me the corruption of this forum. Or I will get flamed saying I have few post and not to trust me. Well, I am not writing this to change other people. I am here to ask why the hell are "trusted" members pushing the shit out of NTBM products and other OTC products rather than proven pharma drugs that work. Or why sponsors have fake accounts that only exist to respond to post saying their products are G2G.

So go ahead ban me, flame me, say "you mad bro". But if you actually cared, about people's health, and stood behind your products, and this site. You would try to prove me wrong.

As I said, deleting this, or banning me. Would only solidify my thoughts about this board.

May the flaming begin.

 

[jester72]

Not going to flame, but as you can see by my post count, I am a veteran member of the site. You can go back through my posts over the past couple years, and see accurate reviews, logs, and CRITICISM of products that I've used from N2BM, Orbit Nutrition, and various other sites and sponsors.

I am not, nor have I EVER rep'd a company. I spend my hard earned cash just like any average Joe, and will tell it like it is. And yes, I HAVE criticized products and found ones that have not worked for me.

I have used everything from HCGenerate, N2Guard, Post Cycle, Unleashed, Gear, N2Slin, N2KTS, to things like PES Anabeta, Cyanostane RX, 1-Andro RX, and the list goes on.
EVERYTHING I've used from N2BM has been the real deal, and I have multiple before an after blood tests to back it up. N2Slin however was the exception; It didn't do a thing for me. Many others have had great results, but I got nothing out of it.

So no flaming, and no disrespect. This is just my personal experience with their products.

 

[KCBARBELLJOSEPH]

I appreciate the honest opinion.
But this still doesn't answer my main thing with this site, that people can buy their way into trusted spots. I also feel better trusting you rather than some guy with a signature advertising 3+ products. My main thing is when people will say, hcGenerate, and Forged Post Cycle are all you need. If ran Deca/Test stack and used Forged PCT alone or even with their AI, I would still be shut down. Sure I haven't ran a cycle like this. But if Forged PCT why isn't it more widely used.

 

[dylangemelli]

I appreciate the honest opinion.
But this still doesn't answer my main thing with this site, that people can buy their way into trusted spots. I also feel better trusting you rather than some guy with a signature advertising 3+ products. My main thing is when people will say, hcGenerate, and Forged Post Cycle are all you need. If ran Deca/Test stack and used Forged PCT alone or even with their AI, I would still be shut down. Sure I haven't ran a cycle like this. But if Forged PCT why isn't it more widely used.

Post a link to show me who is recommending a shit pct like that and i will personally post about how thats not a good pct... I want to see it

 

[Nelson Montana]

Fair question. Ready for an honest answer?

First off, I never paid much attention to karma. I see it more as a "like" button. You know, hey man, I like what you said. I see no reason to "buy" it. So, just ignore that if you like.

I've never seen a post where someone just recommended forged post cycle. That's an add on product and I think everyone knows that. I also never recommended HCGenerate for post cycle. That's a product for while "on" and I suggest using it even though I don't make a dime form it. And nobody is claiming any of these products will keep you from being shut down if you use high dosages or long duration cycles.

I have recommended HCG UNLEASHED and Protein Factory POST CYCLE (a very different thing) and a-dex as all you need for many PCT's and it's been proven to be effective thousands of times so I'm not sure what your issue is there.

 

[dylangemelli]

Ive never "bought" my reputation in any way... Ive earned it from day one of being here... I resent your accusations being made to the highest extent... Knowing the amounts of FREE hours ive given and so many others have to this community, makes your comments even more disrespectful... Pictures, feedback, blood work and results dont lie... You realize the amount of success seen here on a daily basis??? Apparently not... People buy karma for the gambling area in general, not for their reputation... You sound like you are more on a mission than anything else and clearly have an agenda you want to adhere to... Its quite sad and extremely disrespectful... Noone is forcing you to be here... There are plenty of boards where they could care leas about your health and safety and im sure they would welcome you with open arms there... Your accusations are ridiculous and out of line...

 

[jester72]

I've never bought reputation or karma either. I use the iPhone app 99% of the time, and don't even look at karma or rep.

To be honest, I thought that was really only used when we had an active bookie forum for sports betting years ago. I know that chat and conversation throws karma around, but it's pretty much to bomb other people there. I never saw much use for it to be honest with you. All you have to do is read posts, look at post counts, read a users join date, etc. and you should have a pretty solid gauge on a users reputability.

 

[bonacris]

I use my phone all the time so I have no idea what my karma even is..

Sent from my GT-N7100 using EliteFitness

 

[stevesmi]

you work your way up on here. I was once a newb myself with no posts too.. I started out helping others and vice versa. you build up a reputation when you help people, its like building up credit

that's the way it works on any board genius. there have been people on here with lots of karma who have been on for 10 years who haven't amounted to shit because they don't do anything but play around. and then there are those who have been on here 2 years who are leaders.

your post gave me a headache because you have been on here not even a month yet you already have everyone and the site pegged to a tee, or so you think. why do we recommend sponsor products? because they work and because those sponsors make it possible for you to be on here for free.

 

[Zyglamail]

How I am supposed to trust anyone on this site?

I recently found out you can buy "stars" and "karma" points. I am going to brutally honest here, what kind of fucking shit is that? Isn't karma supposed to show new members someone else can be trusted? Why would this site allow someone to simply pay their way to that position. I will tell you why, to sell they're bullshit products.

Now, here's what of two things will happen. This post will be deleted, which will only prove to me the corruption of this forum. Or I will get flamed saying I have few post and not to trust me. Well, I am not writing this to change other people. I am here to ask why the hell are "trusted" members pushing the shit out of NTBM products and other OTC products rather than proven pharma drugs that work. Or why sponsors have fake accounts that only exist to respond to post saying their products are G2G.

So go ahead ban me, flame me, say "you mad bro". But if you actually cared, about people's health, and stood behind your products, and this site. You would try to prove me wrong.

As I said, deleting this, or banning me. Would only solidify my thoughts about this board.

May the flaming begin.

Im sorry but I dont understand the rant. So who cares who has karma or stars or points or pubic hair for that matters. This is the internet. If you dont have the common sense to be able to do you own research and come to your own conclusions about a given product, pharmaceutical or otherwise, then you shouldnt be using it. Anyone who blindly follows anyones advice without doing some due diligence of their own is an idiot.