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dylangemelli said:
sometimes sarms are suspended in everclear...

gw will not make your reactivness slower any way...
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Ok great to know it won't slow me down. If it's suspended in everclear and only take 50mg a day, I hope thats not enough for getting caught while driving under influence of alcohol :p
But it makes sense why I got so sleepy yesterday, as I never drink haha
 
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dylangemelli said:
Stacking osta and lgd is not really worth it as they are quite similar in many ways... lgd is stronger and more anabolic but there is no point in stacking... the best way to run it is to use osta in pct...

you need to start lgd at least at 5 mg but I would really start at 10 mg and keep it there at least 3-4 weeks before increasing the dose...
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Thanks for the response Dylan, but I should have made myself clearer as far as what I can do. I currently have 1 bottle of LGD and 1 bottle of Osta from Unique. I don't have the $ to buy another bottle of LGD at the moment to run those kind of dosages, so I was asking I guess could I substitute some Ostarine to make up for the lower LGD dosages?

Basically I wanted to know if I should run a straight 5mg for 5 weeks and then bump to 6 mg for the last 3 weeks or if I should do more of a tapered thing like 1,3,5,5,6,7,8,8?

I have enough Ostarine to run it alongside the LGD at 20mg per day for 8 weeks and then decrease it to 12.5mg a day for 4 weeks in PCT...

Good idea to help make up the lower dosed LGD or overkill?

I previously ran 8 weeks on Ostarine at 17.5mg a day and got very good results
 
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matter2003 said:
Thanks for the response Dylan, but I should have made myself clearer as far as what I can do. I currently have 1 bottle of LGD and 1 bottle of Osta from Unique. I don't have the $ to buy another bottle of LGD at the moment to run those kind of dosages, so I was asking I guess could I substitute some Ostarine to make up for the lower LGD dosages?

Basically I wanted to know if I should run a straight 5mg for 5 weeks and then bump to 6 mg for the last 3 weeks or if I should do more of a tapered thing like 1,3,5,5,6,7,8,8?

I have enough Ostarine to run it alongside the LGD at 20mg per day for 8 weeks and then decrease it to 12.5mg a day for 4 weeks in PCT...

Good idea to help make up the lower dosed LGD or overkill?

I previously ran 8 weeks on Ostarine at 17.5mg a day and got very good results
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you can do it that way if you want to but it would be better to just wait until you can run it right... you should never run a cycle if you can't afford to do it right and your not running it as it should be done...
 
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dylangemelli said:
you can do it that way if you want to but it would be better to just wait until you can run it right... you should never run a cycle if you can't afford to do it right and your not running it as it should be done...
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Thanks for the reply, but I am a little confused to be honest. If LGD is supposedly 12 X as anabolic as Ostarine, why is the dosage so high? a 5 mg dose of LG would equate to a 60mg dose of Ostarine and a 10mg would equate to 120mg dose of Ostarine. Unless there is something I am not aware of that reduces its effectiveness and necessitates a high dosage. Not doubting your knowledge or expertise, just asking so I can understand better, especially considering I ran Ostarine as a standalone at 17.5mg ED for 8 weeks and got very good results with this by itself, I would think running LGD at 5mg plus Ostarine at 20mg would deliver better results, but I am kinda new to this whole thing and likely am not factoring in other things you guys know...

Please share some knowledge with me, I would greatly appreciate it and I appreciate you taking the time you take to share it
 
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matter2003 said:
Thanks for the reply, but I am a little confused to be honest. If LGD is supposedly 12 X as anabolic as Ostarine, why is the dosage so high? a 5 mg dose of LG would equate to a 60mg dose of Ostarine and a 10mg would equate to 120mg dose of Ostarine. Unless there is something I am not aware of that reduces its effectiveness and necessitates a high dosage. Not doubting your knowledge or expertise, just asking so I can understand better, especially considering I ran Ostarine as a standalone at 17.5mg ED for 8 weeks and got very good results with this by itself, I would think running LGD at 5mg plus Ostarine at 20mg would deliver better results, but I am kinda new to this whole thing and likely am not factoring in other things you guys know...

Please share some knowledge with me, I would greatly appreciate it and I appreciate you taking the time you take to share it
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you read that its 12x as anabolic on uniques website i assume? that was an overstatement made by them... it is definitely more anabolic but i would say 12x is exaggerated... they are different products... they have similar qualities but they are different... just because it is more anabolic does not mean it does the same thing right? i base my doses off studies conducted, logs, use, etc... 10 mg is a very effective starting dose... if you want to run it lower, go for it... you are only short changing yourself...

test is highly more anabolic than primo right? why do some guys run 500 mg of test and only 600 mg of primo in a cycle? make sense? they are different right?
 
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Yes, I believe they reached that conclusion because at a 1mg dose for 3 weeks, patients gained 1.5kg of LBM where with Ostarine at 3mg in 12 weeks they gained 1.4 kg of LBM. So Ostarine was dosed at triple the amount for four times as long(3*4=12), but that probably can't be compared that directly over the course of time because otherwise, you would put on like 60 lbs of LBM using LGD, lol
 
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matter2003 said:
Yes, I believe they reached that conclusion because at a 1mg dose for 3 weeks, patients gained 1.5kg of LBM where with Ostarine at 3mg in 12 weeks they gained 1.4 kg of LBM. So Ostarine was dosed at triple the amount for four times as long(3*4=12), but that probably can't be compared that directly over the course of time because otherwise, you would put on like 60 lbs of LBM using LGD, lol
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exactly...
 
Dylan,

Does LGD or Osta cause any fertility issues in men? Do you know if their is any research done on this? I don't think their would be an issue with sperm production because they don't seem to have a big impact on LH or FSH. Do you know of anyone that got their girl pregnant on SARMs?

Thanks in advance I know I squeezed a bunch of questions in there for ya.
 
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Elrock said:
Dylan,

Does LGD or Osta cause any fertility issues in men? Do you know if their is any research done on this? I don't think their would be an issue with sperm production because they don't seem to have a big impact on LH or FSH. Do you know of anyone that got their girl pregnant on SARMs?

Thanks in advance I know I squeezed a bunch of questions in there for ya.
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There is no cause of fertility problems with any sarms use...
 
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Can Cardarine(GW)be run with good results with LGD or would it be better to run with Osta? Or could I run it with both...planning to run at your recommended dose of 20mg/day in split doses
 
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matter2003 said:
Can Cardarine(GW)be run with good results with LGD or would it be better to run with Osta? Or could I run it with both...planning to run at your recommended dose of 20mg/day in split doses
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it can be run with ANYTHING and produce good results bro... you need to catch up on all the posts i have been making about incorporating it with cycles... it can and should be ran with anything to maximize cycles...
 
I'm currently in a very stressful situation that won't be changing for a while. Because of this I have lost quite a bit of muscle. About 6 lbs. what would be the lowest dose of osta I could use that would help keep out of a catabolic state. I say lowest because I have found that osta gives me horrible headaches. If not osta are there any other suggestions of something I could use. I have epi sitting around not sure how low a dose I could get away with there and it actually be useful without shutting me down so probably not a good idea. Open to any suggestions
 
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Sarms and 32 year old rat looking to really define themselves. Pros vs. Cons and what kind of cycle
For a first timer (female!!!). My GF and I share this account and she's curious.
 
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Phishtribe said:
I'm currently in a very stressful situation that won't be changing for a while. Because of this I have lost quite a bit of muscle. About 6 lbs. what would be the lowest dose of osta I could use that would help keep out of a catabolic state. I say lowest because I have found that osta gives me horrible headaches. If not osta are there any other suggestions of something I could use. I have epi sitting around not sure how low a dose I could get away with there and it actually be useful without shutting me down so probably not a good idea. Open to any suggestions
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Have you thought about LGD bro? Osta should not be giving you headaches at all... You need to try sarms1 bro... I highly recommend that... Either that or giving LGD a try...
 
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SoCalMK6GTI said:
Sarms and 32 year old rat looking to really define themselves. Pros vs. Cons and what kind of cycle
For a first timer (female!!!). My GF and I share this account and she's curious.
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She can run a cycle like this...

1-8 osta 12.5 mg day
1-8 s4 50 mg day
1-8 gw 20 mg day
1-8 n2guard
 
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When did you notice GW kicking in for you?

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Better yet.. when did the triple stack kick in? I recall ostarine gaining a full effect after about 2 weeks.

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Shrine1 said:
When did you notice GW kicking in for you?

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I noticed something in a few days, but week two of the GW has been phenomenal. Really, I am floored at how much easier it is and how much harder and longer I can go.
 
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Good to know... I know I keep saying this but I cant wait! You guys all got me fired up.

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Shrine1 said:
When did you notice GW kicking in for you?

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For me it takes 3 days to kick. Stuff works fasts, by the 2 weeks in where everything had a chance to build up will hit hard.

GW in a miracle in a bottle. It will change your life for sure.
 
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The Prodigy said:
For me it takes 3 days to kick. Stuff works fasts, by the 2 weeks in where everything had a chance to build up will hit hard.

GW in a miracle in a bottle. It will change your life for sure.
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Damn... change my life! Lol.. count me in

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The Prodigy said:
For me it takes 3 days to kick. Stuff works fasts, by the 2 weeks in where everything had a chance to build up will hit hard.

GW in a miracle in a bottle. It will change your life for sure.
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Yea I mean it really is incredible stuff and its mechanism of action.............its pretty unbelievable that a substance can do that.

I'm stoked to try the Sarms1 GW after having such great results with other GW in the past
 
Dylan - what's the longest recommended cycle for GW ? Just done with 8 week Osta GW cycle, and am considering running the GW alone for a further 4 weeks till I start a test eq cycle. Any reasons to not continue with the GW?
 
srfskr said:
Dylan - what's the longest recommended cycle for GW ? Just done with 8 week Osta GW cycle, and am considering running the GW alone for a further 4 weeks till I start a test eq cycle. Any reasons to not continue with the GW?
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Ps - I am running the mini pct. Just to clarify
 
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srfskr said:
Dylan - what's the longest recommended cycle for GW ? Just done with 8 week Osta GW cycle, and am considering running the GW alone for a further 4 weeks till I start a test eq cycle. Any reasons to not continue with the GW?
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12 weeks
 
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If its already been covered and i missed it i apologize but whats the trend/reasoning being starting the LGD at such a high dose now? Is it just much more anabolic or what? Ive read logs where people have gone over 5mg and said it did not make much of a difference but then again that was towards the end of their cycle. Anyone want to fill me in?
 
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180ls1 said:
If its already been covered and i missed it i apologize but whats the trend/reasoning being starting the LGD at such a high dose now? Is it just much more anabolic or what? Ive read logs where people have gone over 5mg and said it did not make much of a difference but then again that was towards the end of their cycle. Anyone want to fill me in?
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there is several reasons why... the initial recommended doses were what unique recommended... that had nothing to do with any of the ACTUAL human studies that were conducted that showed users taking up to 22 mg a day with no side effects an minimal suppression... there is also a question on uniques product quality as of late as well which really inhibits a true judgement of the strength and quality of ACTUAL lgd... it is difficult to say... the main reason I didn't start advising on lgd use for many months was because I needed to see actual studies and not just a few logs... these numbers are based on these studies... 10 mg would actually seem to be a moderate dose... I have also had several of my clients run it at this dosage with excellent results and no side effects whatsoever... i had them run hcgenerate es with it and run a full pct and bloodwork and recovery all showed up excellent...
 
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I have gone through an entire bottle of LGD from unique and it did absolutly nothing for me. I rampted the doses from 0.3 ml/day up to 1 ml/day. I don't know if the product spoils but the taste has changed. It's much stronger than it was at first. I've began to refrigerate my SARMS. I don't know if it's necessry but I figure it can't hurt. I have a bottle of LGD from unique left I'm not sure what I'm going to do with it. Probably try dosing it at 20mg/day and see what happens. This will be after I'm done logging LGD from SARMS1.
 
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pdelta said:
I have gone through an entire bottle of LGD from unique and it did absolutly nothing for me. I rampted the doses from 0.3 ml/day up to 1 ml/day. I don't know if the product spoils but the taste has changed. It's much stronger than it was at first. I've began to refrigerate my SARMS. I don't know if it's necessry but I figure it can't hurt. I have a bottle of LGD from unique left I'm not sure what I'm going to do with it. Probably try dosing it at 20mg/day and see what happens. This will be after I'm done logging LGD from SARMS1.
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you need to keep you sarms in a cool, dry place... do not refrigerate them...
 
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pdelta said:
I have gone through an entire bottle of LGD from unique and it did absolutly nothing for me. I rampted the doses from 0.3 ml/day up to 1 ml/day. I don't know if the product spoils but the taste has changed. It's much stronger than it was at first. I've began to refrigerate my SARMS. I don't know if it's necessry but I figure it can't hurt. I have a bottle of LGD from unique left I'm not sure what I'm going to do with it. Probably try dosing it at 20mg/day and see what happens. This will be after I'm done logging LGD from SARMS1.
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Yea I wouldn't refrigerate your sarms.

As for your unique LGD, I'd do what I did with my last order of sarms from them.........throw it in the trash. After logging your Sarms1 LGD I think you'll understand how true LGD is supposed to work
 
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You're probably right, it's just hard to throw away $300 worth of product.
 
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Dylan,

I know you have said that Ostarine and LGD are different products with different overall effect, but from everything I've read LDG just seems just be a stronger version of Osatrine. What is the major differences between these two products?
 
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pdelta said:
Dylan,

I know you have said that Ostarine and LGD are different products with different overall effect, but from everything I've read LDG just seems just be a stronger version of Osatrine. What is the major differences between these two products?
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Www.evolutionary.org/sarms... Ive touched on all of this in these articles...
 
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I've read all of them. Ostarine and LDG appear to provide similar results with Ostarine being less suppressive and less likely to have significant side effects. So why would one opt for LGD? I did simply because Ostarine from unique did little for me. I did notice some changes, mainly recomp, but not what I was hoping for.
 
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pdelta said:
I've read all of them. Ostarine and LDG appear to provide similar results with Ostarine being less suppressive and less likely to have significant side effects. So why would one opt for LGD? I did simply because Ostarine from unique did little for me. I did notice some changes, mainly recomp, but not what I was hoping for.
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bro, i get the point about uniquemicals... you have said it hundreds of times... we get that... that's why they have been dropped as a sponsor... lgd is more anabolic than osta, allows for more growth, bigger gains, etc... its much stronger than osta in terms of the amount of size you can put on...
 
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Okay, so a good friend of mine has been interested in trying SARMS first out, instead of pro-hormones or AAS, just to get his feet wet. I told him ostarine is very promising, but he found LGD and really wanted to take it for a spin. My friend 5'4", 180lbs, and 12% BF. He is 23 and has been training for 9 years, and competing in powerlifting for 8, trying to stay in the 181lb weight class. Goals would be mostly strength, but wouldn't mind some muscle...

I'd really appreciate some help dialing in a proposed cycle for him, this is what we've got so far:

Week 1:
*LGD-4033 @ 2mg per day

Week 2:
*LGD-4033 @ 2mg per day

Week 3:
*LGD-4033 @ 3mg per day

Week 4:
*LGD-4033 @ 3mg per day

Week 5:
*LGD-4033 @ 4mg per day

Week 6:
*LGD-4033 @ 4mg per day

Week 7 (optional):
*LGD-4033 @ 5mg per day

Week 8 (optional):
*LGD-4033 @ 5mg per day


PCT
Week 9:
*MK-2866 @ 25mg/day
*GW-50 @ 20mg/day
*Nolva @ 50mg/day

Week 10:
*MK-2866 @ 25mg/day
*GW-50 @ 20mg/day
*Nolva @ 20mg/day

Week 11:
*MK-2866 @ 25mg/day
*GW-50 @ 20mg/day
*Nolva @ 20mg/day

Week 12:
*MK-2866 @ 25mg/day
*GW-50 @ 20mg/day
*Nolva @ 20mg/day
Week 13:
*MK-2866 @ 25mg/day
*GW-50 @ 20mg/day

Week 14:
*MK-2866 @ 25mg/day
*GW-50 @ 20mg/day

Week 15:
*MK-2866 @ 25mg/day
*GW-50 @ 20mg/day

Week 16:
*MK-2866 @ 25mg/day
*GW-50 @ 20mg/day
 
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chadgreever said:
Okay, so a good friend of mine has been interested in trying SARMS first out, instead of pro-hormones or AAS, just to get his feet wet. I told him ostarine is very promising, but he found LGD and really wanted to take it for a spin. My friend 5'4", 180lbs, and 12% BF. He is 23 and has been training for 9 years, and competing in powerlifting for 8, trying to stay in the 181lb weight class. Goals would be mostly strength, but wouldn't mind some muscle...

I'd really appreciate some help dialing in a proposed cycle for him, this is what we've got so far:

Week 1:
*LGD-4033 @ 2mg per day

Week 2:
*LGD-4033 @ 2mg per day

Week 3:
*LGD-4033 @ 3mg per day

Week 4:
*LGD-4033 @ 3mg per day

Week 5:
*LGD-4033 @ 4mg per day

Week 6:
*LGD-4033 @ 4mg per day

Week 7 (optional):
*LGD-4033 @ 5mg per day

Week 8 (optional):
*LGD-4033 @ 5mg per day


PCT
Week 9:
*MK-2866 @ 25mg/day
*GW-50 @ 20mg/day
*Nolva @ 50mg/day

Week 10:
*MK-2866 @ 25mg/day
*GW-50 @ 20mg/day
*Nolva @ 20mg/day

Week 11:
*MK-2866 @ 25mg/day
*GW-50 @ 20mg/day
*Nolva @ 20mg/day

Week 12:
*MK-2866 @ 25mg/day
*GW-50 @ 20mg/day
*Nolva @ 20mg/day
Week 13:
*MK-2866 @ 25mg/day
*GW-50 @ 20mg/day

Week 14:
*MK-2866 @ 25mg/day
*GW-50 @ 20mg/day

Week 15:
*MK-2866 @ 25mg/day
*GW-50 @ 20mg/day

Week 16:
*MK-2866 @ 25mg/day
*GW-50 @ 20mg/day
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your running lgd way too low...

1-12 lgd-4033 10 mg day
1-12 hcgenerate es
1-12 n2guard

pct 13-16

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aromasin 12.5 mg eod AG-guys.com
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1-8 HcGenerate n2bm.com
1-8 N2guard n2bm.com
3-8 Albuterol 12-18 mg day ag-guys.com

Mini pct 9-12

Hcgenerate ES n2bm.com

then go right into the sarms triple stack...
 
dylangemelli said:
bro, i get the point about uniquemicals... you have said it hundreds of times... we get that... that's why they have been dropped as a sponsor... lgd is more anabolic than osta, allows for more growth, bigger gains, etc... its much stronger than osta in terms of the amount of size you can put on...
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You miss understood. I didn't say unique's Ostarine wasn't any good I just didn't respond as well as I had hoped. I may have just been me. I have said in previous posts that I didn't respond at all to their LGD.
 
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dylangemelli said:
your running lgd way too low...

1-12 lgd-4033 10 mg day
1-12 hcgenerate es
1-12 n2guard

pct 13-16

then go right into the sarms triple stack...
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Damn, looks solid. I had seen some other guys' logs who'd been using 1,2,3,4,5, and thought to keep the same moderate doses... hah! Guess we can toss those notions aside. Along with the triple stack, it looks like my guy will have a nice half a year to look forward to.

Thanks, as always, for your lightning fast replies Dylan.
 
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pdelta said:
You miss understood. I didn't say unique's Ostarine wasn't any good I just didn't respond as well as I had hoped. I may have just been me. I have said in previous posts that I didn't respond at all to their LGD.
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i understand bro... but you've said it countless times... we all know... that's why you are on sarms1 now because i want to make sure you got the best of the best... all im saying (not trying to be a dick) is that you don't need to reiterate anymore that you didn't respond to unique... we all know... now you have some good quality and hopefully you will respond... if not, then you may just fall into a category of the few people that don't respond... hopefully that is not the case...
 
dylangemelli said:
bro, i get the point about uniquemicals... you have said it hundreds of times... we get that... that's why they have been dropped as a sponsor... lgd is more anabolic than osta, allows for more growth, bigger gains, etc... its much stronger than osta in terms of the amount of size you can put on...
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I got to give credit at least you've read my posts. I'll back off.
 
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I have some unique Ostarine I plan on running after LGD...have ran Ostarine twice from Osta-gain(now spectrumpeptide) and that was legit as it comes...I will have a pretty good idea on unique quality once I compare the results...
 
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First dose of GW tonight. 10 mg. Are there any stims in GW? I am very sensitive to stims and feel a little anxiety after. Slight swelling of the throat too(which may be what gave me anxiety).

Either way, I will run another 10 mg in the am before my workout and see how it goes. Stims see to go better with a workout for me. If there are stims, I will have to take 2nd dose early, as I don't want it messing with my sleep.
 
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hardrock said:
First dose of GW tonight. 10 mg. Are there any stims in GW? I am very sensitive to stims and feel a little anxiety after. Slight swelling of the throat too(which may be what gave me anxiety).

Either way, I will run another 10 mg in the am before my workout and see how it goes. Stims see to go better with a workout for me. If there are stims, I will have to take 2nd dose early, as I don't want it messing with my sleep.
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There are no stims in gw
 
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Have you heard reports of anxiety or swelling of the throat?
 
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I have a female rat looking to run gw and ramp the dose up slowly to the 20mg mark. I would like to know if any pct is necessary for just a solo run like this. It would be for 8 weeks.
 
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Magic_AoD said:
I have a female rat looking to run gw and ramp the dose up slowly to the 20mg mark. I would like to know if any pct is necessary for just a solo run like this. It would be for 8 weeks.
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Pct is not required for gw as a stand alone
 
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If I don't see any vision sides with S4 can I up the dose from 50mg to 75mg? And do it 3 times a day instead of 2?
 
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matter2003 said:
I have some unique Ostarine I plan on running after LGD...have ran Ostarine twice from Osta-gain(now spectrumpeptide) and that was legit as it comes...I will have a pretty good idea on unique quality once I compare the results...
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Keep us updated. I'll be interested in your progress and overall evaluation.
 
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at about how many weeks or days in dose the triple stack "start to shine" as dylan likes to quote. lol. luv the videos bro
 
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ozcroboy said:
at about how many weeks or days in dose the triple stack "start to shine" as dylan likes to quote. lol. luv the videos bro
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gw and s4 kick in very quickly... you will start to notice within a day or two with those... osta normally takes around 7-10 days to really get going...
 
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Been enjoying the triple stack so far, but vision sides came on with the s4 even at the low recommended dose.

For me though - double vision! Hardly notice yellow tint, but the double vision is impossible to ignore.

How common is this as a side? I had only read about the yellow.
How long to go away? Everything I've read says 3-5 days to clear up.

Whew. Thanks - T
 
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ksfoguy said:
Been enjoying the triple stack so far, but vision sides came on with the s4 even at the low recommended dose.

For me though - double vision! Hardly notice yellow tint, but the double vision is impossible to ignore.

How common is this as a side? I had only read about the yellow.
How long to go away? Everything I've read says 3-5 days to clear up.

Whew. Thanks - T
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it must be binding quickly to your receptor... the half life is short... you may need to go 5 days on and 2 days off... vision sides are very common with s4 but i have yet to hear of double vision...
 
Hey dylan

Am going to be using ostarine in my 4 week pct.. @25 mg a day, so it will still leave me with another 30 day supply.. Question is could i continue taking it for another 4 weeks continous right after pct? Or will it shut me down?
 
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Ed101 said:
Hey dylan

Am going to be using ostarine in my 4 week pct.. @25 mg a day, so it will still leave me with another 30 day supply.. Question is could i continue taking it for another 4 weeks continous right after pct? Or will it shut me down?
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you can actually run it another 8 weeks after you finish pct... just make sure to run hcgenerate alongside of it and you will be fine... i really recommend the sarms triple stack after you finish pct...

1-8 Ostarine 25 mg day dosed once a day in the a.m. SARMS1.COM - The best Selective androgen receptor modulators
1-8 S4 50 mg day... split doses... 25 mg in the a.m. and 25 mg in the p.m. SARMS1.COM - The best Selective androgen receptor modulators
1-8 GW-510516 10-20 mg day... split doses 12 hours apart SARMS1.COM - The best Selective androgen receptor modulators
1-8 HcGenerate n2bm.com
1-8 N2guard n2bm.com
3-8 Albuterol 12-18 mg day ag-guys.com

Mini pct 9-12

Hcgenerate ES n2bm.com
 
dylangemelli said:
you can actually run it another 8 weeks after you finish pct... just make sure to run hcgenerate alongside of it and you will be fine... i really recommend the sarms triple stack after you finish pct...

1-8 Ostarine 25 mg day dosed once a day in the a.m. SARMS1.COM - The best Selective androgen receptor modulators
1-8 S4 50 mg day... split doses... 25 mg in the a.m. and 25 mg in the p.m. SARMS1.COM - The best Selective androgen receptor modulators
1-8 GW-510516 10-20 mg day... split doses 12 hours apart SARMS1.COM - The best Selective androgen receptor modulators
1-8 HcGenerate n2bm.com
1-8 N2guard n2bm.com
3-8 Albuterol 12-18 mg day ag-guys.com

Mini pct 9-12

Hcgenerate ES n2bm.com
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Cool!! Thanks!!or would it be better to run it throughout my cycle? Note that i will already be running gw during my cycle.. Thanks
 
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Ed101 said:
Cool!! Thanks!!or would it be better to run it throughout my cycle? Note that i will already be running gw during my cycle.. Thanks
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run it as a bridge in between cycles... run gw on your cycle, then you will be off of it 4 weeks during your pct and then you can jump right back on it...
 
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I've been following LGD since it's introduction. I'm currently using Sarms1 LGD. I'm on day 5 at 10mg/day, as you recommend. Initially I remember reading that people were getting significant results on only 1-3mg daily. Things like increased hunger, increased size with associated decrease in body fat, increased vascularity, increased strength, etc. Was this just placebo?
 
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pdelta said:
I've been following LGD since it's introduction. I'm currently using Sarms1 LGD. I'm on day 5 at 10mg/day, as you recommend. Initially I remember reading that people were getting significant results on only 1-3mg daily. Things like increased hunger, increased size with associated decrease in body fat, increased vascularity, increased strength, etc. Was this just placebo?
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everybody responds differently... i based my facts off of real human tests conducted, not just a few logs i read here and there...
 
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Hey Dylan or anyone else for that matter. How would you rate helladrol vs LGD? From what I have read the gains seem to be similar.

I am taking my time with this but I want nice slow keep able gains with low sides. The one thing I know for sure is that I will run ostarine with a full pct to help keep them.
 
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dylangemelli said:
it must be binding quickly to your receptor... the half life is short... you may need to go 5 days on and 2 days off... vision sides are very common with s4 but i have yet to hear of double vision...
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Yeah - I was surprised! The double vision - or, inability to focus on things - came on the same time as the poor night vision and yellow tints, so I am assuming it's related. Wore off gradually over about 5 days.

I might just be unlucky with S4 and that's fine. I will just stick to the Osta and GW for now.
 
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Hi Dylan,

Question about LGD - do you have any experience/observations about the impact on HDL yet? Any ideas on the mitigation effects of GW on this?

Thanks! - T
 
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ksfoguy said:
Hi Dylan,

Question about LGD - do you have any experience/observations about the impact on HDL yet? Any ideas on the mitigation effects of GW on this?

Thanks! - T
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some studies have shown dose dependent decreases in hgl from lgd but gw, in theory, would counteract that... i don't have studies proving that, so that is speaking from a theoretical standpoint... gw has shown to increase ldl, so as i said, in theory, it would counteract that...
 
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180ls1 said:
Hey Dylan or anyone else for that matter. How would you rate helladrol vs LGD? From what I have read the gains seem to be similar.

I am taking my time with this but I want nice slow keep able gains with low sides. The one thing I know for sure is that I will run ostarine with a full pct to help keep them.
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you will see far less sides with lgd... helladrol will put on a bit more size but lgd will still put on a lot of size without worry of increases in bp, liver problems, etc... that are associated with methylated orals... if you want to keep sides to a minimum then you definitely want lgd bro...
 
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Hi Dylan and the rest,

Any sex-specific advice for LGD-4033 for a female rat? Should the dosing be adjusted with bodyweight? Any reason this wouldn't give desired effects of increased LBM and strength? Any hope of seeing bodyfat reduction in the process? This chem strongly intrigues me but its novelty seems to come with a price of lack of (easily found) info/logs.
 
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xellotath said:
Hi Dylan and the rest,

Any sex-specific advice for LGD-4033 for a female rat? Should the dosing be adjusted with bodyweight? Any reason this wouldn't give desired effects of increased LBM and strength? Any hope of seeing bodyfat reduction in the process? This chem strongly intrigues me but its novelty seems to come with a price of lack of (easily found) info/logs.
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start her at 5mg day and assess from there...
 
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Dylan during a bridge if I wanted to increase the S4 is that ok or it best to stay at 50mg daily?
I understand your protocol to increase dosage, but I know S4 can be suppressive so I first wanted to make sure this was ok to do during a bridge into your next cycle.

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Shrine1 said:
Dylan during a bridge if I wanted to increase the S4 is that ok or it best to stay at 50mg daily?
I understand your protocol to increase dosage, but I know S4 can be suppressive so I first wanted to make sure this was ok to do during a bridge into your next cycle.

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as long as your running hcgenerate on cycle then you will see very minimal suppression...
 
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Excellent. Vision sides have been minimal at best

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Been noticing 10mg LGD is making me feel weird I guess is the best way to put it...

Lethargic, just feeling off, weird feelings in muscles, tingling at times

Backed dose down to 5mg yesterday and was fine, did 6mg today and is fine...anyone else having this issue at 10mg
 
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matter2003 said:
Been noticing 10mg LGD is making me feel weird I guess is the best way to put it...

Lethargic, just feeling off, weird feelings in muscles, tingling at times

Backed dose down to 5mg yesterday and was fine, did 6mg today and is fine...anyone else having this issue at 10mg
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it can get suppressive for some at higher doses... it is different from person to person...
 
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matter2003 said:
Been noticing 10mg LGD is making me feel weird I guess is the best way to put it...

Lethargic, just feeling off, weird feelings in muscles, tingling at times

Backed dose down to 5mg yesterday and was fine, did 6mg today and is fine...anyone else having this issue at 10mg
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I've been running 20mg ever know and then but as far as those side you mentioned I have none of those.


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LGD is different from person to person, I always suggest starting with lower dosages and moving up as needed.
 
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10 mg of lgd is a nice starting point... if you want to be extra conservative, then start at 5 mg but that is a very conservative approach... 10 mg is the sweet spot...
 
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Hi guys, I'm new here, mainly because a certain other forum has a stick up its hoohah when it comes to questionable substances.

I'm looking into SARMS for the distant future, figure research early. My stats are 22, 6"2", 190lbs and 8% bf. I think it would be the first step to AAS after I turn 23.

1. Do SARMS (ostarine, s4 and gw) cause growth plates to seal and/or increase development of acne/facial hair in youth? I'm fairly underdeveloped for my age so I may delay to 25 of thats so.

2. For ostarine, I have heard that many people need PCT. I wouldn't want to take a risk so I would do PCT. I hear some people say to take nolva DURING the cycle instead of after, but wouldn't that effect free test negatively? Otherwise, I was planning on trying an anti gyno cycle to try and see if that rids of my pubertal gyno before I go under knife, and this would contain both letro and nolva, would this 6 week cycle be a good substitute for PCT?

3. Would ostarine stack well with ArA on workout days, forskolin and DAA every day, or would these not contribute much


4. Not sure hormone wise if it would be better to time my PCT during a cut or bulk?

5. What's the longest I can run one of these, my bulks are 12 weeks long so I'd like if I could run abit longer than 8 weeks
 
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Bechsgaard said:
Hi guys, I'm new here, mainly because a certain other forum has a stick up its hoohah when it comes to questionable substances.

I'm looking into SARMS for the distant future, figure research early. My stats are 22, 6"2", 190lbs and 8% bf. I think it would be the first step to AAS after I turn 23.

1. Do SARMS (ostarine, s4 and gw) cause growth plates to seal and/or increase development of acne/facial hair in youth? I'm fairly underdeveloped for my age so I may delay to 25 of thats so.

2. For ostarine, I have heard that many people need PCT. I wouldn't want to take a risk so I would do PCT. I hear some people say to take nolva DURING the cycle instead of after, but wouldn't that effect free test negatively? Otherwise, I was planning on trying an anti gyno cycle to try and see if that rids of my pubertal gyno before I go under knife, and this would contain both letro and nolva, would this 6 week cycle be a good substitute for PCT?

3. Would ostarine stack well with ArA on workout days, forskolin and DAA every day, or would these not contribute much


4. Not sure hormone wise if it would be better to time my PCT during a cut or bulk?

5. What's the longest I can run one of these, my bulks are 12 weeks long so I'd like if I could run abit longer than 8 weeks
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1. no, not at all...

2.. anything over four weeks of osta requires a mini pct... bro, noone takes nolva during the cycle and i have never seen that anywhere so im not sure where your getting your info on that... letro would never be ran in a pct... if you have gyno already then you need to focus on treating that first... go to this link and follow this protocol... Evolutionary Anti-Gynecomastia Cycle - Evolutionary.org

3. no it would not

4. not really sure what your question is here...

5. you can run sarms up to 12 weeks...
 
You may have answered this question at some point but why does GW need to be split to twice a day. I'm taking 20ml a day, first think in the morning. I was under the impression it has a 24 hour half life. If splitting it makes it more effective then I'm good with that but I'm a little confused right now
 
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Black Ice said:
You may have answered this question at some point but why does GW need to be split to twice a day. I'm taking 20ml a day, first think in the morning. I was under the impression it has a 24 hour half life. If splitting it makes it more effective then I'm good with that but I'm a little confused right now
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i have found through the MANY times that I have ran it that when you split the dosages in 12 hour splits, its more effective... it has a 20 hour half life and when I split it I seem to have even more endurance than when I take it all at once... I have a different gym schedule often but i like to get one dose about 30 minutes before I go and take the other one right in the morning... you can dose it once a day if you like but the twice a day dosing is more effective...
 
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Hey I just got my stuff from sarms 1 and the gw is purpleish pink and very chunky and globby is this normal??
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Does S4 and GW suppress appetite? After a week on both I find myself forcing down food. I use to be able to smash food especially protein. Now I gag thinking about all the food I usually eat.
 
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Black Ice said:
Does S4 and GW suppress appetite? After a week on both I find myself forcing down food. I use to be able to smash food especially protein. Now I gag thinking about all the food I usually eat.
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they tend to effect people in different ways but generally, gw will increase your metabolism, which could make you more hungry... it may just be a mental thing or you may just be one that reacts different...
 
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Black Ice said:
Does S4 and GW suppress appetite? After a week on both I find myself forcing down food. I use to be able to smash food especially protein. Now I gag thinking about all the food I usually eat.
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Cardarine (GW-501516) didn't suppress my appetite, but I got a lot leaner and faster with it. It's all relative to the person IMO.

S-4 I'm not sure, as I used it with Cardarine together.

reading material for you:
http://www.elitefitness.com/forum/anabolic-steroids/sarms-gw-501516-cardarine-log-1274253.html
GW-501516 Facts - Evolutionary.org
Sarms1 GW
sarms1 GW-501516 (Cardarine) Log
 
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dylangemelli said:
as long as your running hcgenerate on cycle then you will see very minimal suppression...
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There are no natty supps that will stop suppression. Unless of course we're talking about HCG since it naturally occurs in women's bodies. Lol

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tinytony said:
There are no natty supps that will stop suppression. Unless of course we're talking about HCG since it naturally occurs in women's bodies. Lol

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what's your point... I never said it would "stop" it, i said it would keep suppression to a minimum... NOTHING is going to COMPLETELY stop suppression and I never ONCE iaid that it would so please get your facts straight before making posts like that...
 
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What's a mini pct I can do for a s4 and ostarine cycle? I will be running hcgenerate during last 4 weeks of the 2 month cycle. I have leftover nolva and letro so if it includes that, would be ideal.


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