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Alcohol Vs. Steroids On liver

What is more liver toxic?

  • Alcohol is weaker then steroids

    Votes: 72 33.0%
  • Alcohol is worse on liver

    Votes: 109 50.0%
  • Alcohol is only stronger then anavar

    Votes: 6 2.8%
  • Alcohol is stronger then anavar and some other steroids

    Votes: 30 13.8%

  • Total voters
    218
Two posts and already breaking balls, eh? We don't play the "my cut and paste study is bigger than your cut and paste study" here. I already mentioned it was an estimate. You have proof that's otherwise? Feel free to present it. If not, sit back, shut up, and learn from the vets here.
Have you got proof of this?

There is one single journal that links A-50 to cancer - in that case it was a 14 year old girl on Anadrol 300mg ED for 6 years. I can produce the journal if you like!

Sit down and shut up?

Hmmm, i have a degrees in chemistry and biology and have written a 1st class disseration regarding steroid chemistry etc..?

Just becuase i have few posts doesnt mean i dont know anything.
 
kasabian19 said:
Two posts and already breaking balls, eh? We don't play the "my cut and paste study is bigger than your cut and paste study" here. I already mentioned it was an estimate. You have proof that's otherwise? Feel free to present it. If not, sit back, shut up, and learn from the vets here.

Have you got proof of this?

There is one single journal that links A-50 to cancer - in that case it was a 14 year old girl on Anadrol 300mg ED for 6 years. I can produce the journal if you like!

Sit down and shut up?

Hmmm, i have a degrees in chemistry and biology and have written a 1st class disseration regarding steroid chemistry etc..?

Just becuase i have few posts doesnt mean i dont know anything.

It's a matter of respect kid. You can offer a contrary point of view( which you still havn't done) but when you come off all confrontational and pissy with nothing else to offer other than being a dick, you're off to a bad start. I know that crap works on the kiddie boards like BB.com but not here. Too many vets.

I never said anything about cancer so I'm not sure where that's coming from. And please don't make multiple posts or have your friend with 7 posts egg you on.

You have a degree in chemistry and biology? Great, put it to good use and stop being an ass.
 
Nelson Montana said:
They say 5 mgs of an oral is equal to a shot of hard liquer. It's a ballpark estimate, but it's all we've got.

Injectables much less so -- about 25 mgs equals a shot of liquer. Hardly a factor at all since administartion is less often.

So 50 mgs of an oral a day is comparable to 70 drinks a week as far as the liver perceives it.

I think he's in the ballpark, altough I'd give more weight to the alcohol than he did.
 
Nelson Montana said:
They say 5 mgs of an oral is equal to a shot of hard liquer. It's a ballpark estimate, but it's all we've got.

Injectables much less so -- about 25 mgs equals a shot of liquer. Hardly a factor at all since administartion is less often.

So 50 mgs of an oral a day is comparable to 70 drinks a week as far as the liver perceives it.

I'm certainly not a chemist or biologist but this seems to me to be a reasonably logical hypothesis based on what little I do know about steroids and alcohol. I'm guessing it may possibly be overstated slightly but as already pointed out it's probably a really good ballpark estimate to work with.
 
Nelson Montana said:
They say 5 mgs of an oral is equal to a shot of hard liquer. It's a ballpark estimate, but it's all we've got.

Injectables much less so -- about 25 mgs equals a shot of liquer. Hardly a factor at all since administartion is less often.

So 50 mgs of an oral a day is comparable to 70 drinks a week as far as the liver perceives it.

Thanks Nelson!!!

I just may go kill myself now.

LOL
 
Surely genetics plays a part as well. Individuals have varying levels of cytochrome p450 enzymes and/or alcohol dyhydrogenase, which will affect metabolism?
 
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