Alcohol Vs. Steroids On liver

[MichaelScott]

seems about right to me.

so for a week would that be 7 days 50mg oral = 490 alcoholic drinks?

 

[the_clockwork]

depends what type of alcohol you drink

the light color of the alcohol the easier it is on the liver

vodka = easier
whiskey = harder

 

[jnevin]

I think as long as you wash your a-bombs down with a high end liquor, you're in the clear. Also, make sure you drink at least one glass of water per day.

Glad I could help.

 

[Nelson Montana]

"They say 5 mgs of an oral is equal to a shot of hard liquer. It's a ballpark estimate, but it's all we've got.

Injectables much less so -- about 25 mgs equals a shot of liquer. Hardly a factor at all since administartion is less often.

So 50 mgs of an oral a day is comparable to 70 drinks a week as far as the liver perceives it."

Who says this? Scietific research/journal - please post. Or at least back up your claims.

Two posts and already breaking balls, eh? We don't play the "my cut and paste study is bigger than your cut and paste study" here. I already mentioned it was an estimate. You have proof that's otherwise? Feel free to present it. If not, sit back, shut up, and learn from the vets here.

As for Daves assertion that 50 mgs is comparable to a vodka, that's just ridiculous. (Wishful thinking?) Many people have developed liver damage from a single dose of Anadrol 50 - oxymetholone - for an extended period. I don't know of anyone who developed liver damage from one drink a day.

 

[Tweakle]

Many people developed liver damage from a single A50? who?

How exactly does injectable test affect the liver?

 

[Nelson Montana]

Many people developed liver damage from a single Anadrol 50 - oxymetholone - ? who?

How exactly does injectable test affect the liver?

You want names? Maybe not too many people at 50 mgs but there were plenty of guys I knew in the 80's who were taking 100mgs and were told by their doc that if they didn't stop they'd soon be dead. Were they also drinking? I can;t say for sure.

It's even a part of the contraindications listed in the pharma packaging for Anadrol.

The liver filters everything, including injectable sustances. Orals are much harder because A: they're more concentrated and B: They're 17AA which prevents the liver from breaking it down causing additional stress and exposure to the drug. Add alcohol, which the body percieves as poison, and it's a cocktail for disaster. When alcohol is present the liver can do nothing else -- it doesn't process fats or sugars or nutrients. It just works at removing the alcohol because it must. Imagine what happens with 17AA drugs in the system at the same time. This isn't a joke bro.

Because the amount of drug passing through the liver with an injectable is much less, it isn't much of a stress at all.

Primo tabs are the only oral (besides Andriol, not worth mentioning) that isn't 17AA. But thats why they aren't very effective. They're destoyed by the liver in a couple of hours. But even high dosages all day long don't have that much of an effect on liver values leaving one to believe it's the 17AA, not so much the drug itself.

The liver is a resilient little guy. But once it's overloaded, it can fail fast. Ya feel lucky?

 

[Tweakle]

I'm aware of the the hepatoxicity anadrol, which is why it's bizzare that anyone would claim liver damage after one pill. The theraputic, doctor prescribed dose is 5m per kilo, which would work out @ 500mg a day for an average sized lifter.

I've read studies that showed cysts, blood pools and other damage when the test subject rats took 150mg per kilo for months but I don't think even Palumbo is going to advocate that.

Anecdotally, I know my liver values were a little high after 2 months @ 100mg ED but hardly the equivalent of drinking a bottle of vodka daily for 8 weeks.

 

[hyp1]

I would say a lot of it depends on what type steroid you're referring to
anadrol is very liver toxic,but whats odd is that its been prescribed by many many doctors and doctors generally aren't in business to kill their patients so that brings up the validity of what's been said about it.

would I use anadrol?fuck no,but I've abused the living shit out of my liver in the past if I hadn't had the past I have I might possibly give it a run.would I give dianabol a run again?you better believe it.........hahaha

I would say everything is subjective to a huge degree and that includes my perspectives,admittedly.

 

[Nelson Montana]

I'm aware of the the hepatoxicity anadrol, which is why it's bizzare that anyone would claim liver damage after one pill. The theraputic, doctor prescribed dose is 5m per kilo, which would work out @ 500mg a day for an average sized lifter.

I've read studies that showed cysts, blood pools and other damage when the test subject rats took 150mg per kilo for months but I don't think even Palumbo is going to advocate that.

Anecdotally, I know my liver values were a little high after 2 months @ 100mg ED but hardly the equivalent of drinking a bottle of vodka daily for 8 weeks.

500mgs a day? something's wrong with that.

Keep in mind, there's other damage from alcohol beyond the liver. There are people that drink up to a half bottle of booze a day for years with no apparent damage. And then...

 

[r1]

I have bloodwork for liver values after being on Nolvadex for a year at 20mg/day.

As Primordial Performance has pointed out, Nolvaldex - tamoxifen citrate - is indeed hard on your liver. I'm not sure how it rates vs oral gear like db0l or avar. I doubt it's in the same league as halotestin or I'd have died after 3 months.

R1