after 4 weeks on gear...wtf!!

[201mph]

just completed my fourth week of gear...

400mg/week eq
500mg/week sust
1/4cc liquidex/day

i've gained zero pounds...and for the second week in a row, my chest exercises haven't gone up in weight!!! the one thing i want to excel in, i suck at!!! wtf!!!

i'm drinking about 100oz of water a day, no junk food, eat low fat meals and take 2-3 protein drinks per day, 5 days of the week.

i was trying to lean down with this cycle...the weight issue doesn't bother me as much as not going up in exercise weight??

is there something i'm missing or doing wrong??

i was gonna start winny depot on week 6 but none of my three sources have any so i was just gonna stick with my current program unless i need something else to get me off my plateau...????

thanks in advance!
201mph

btw...i'm 99% sure my gear is real...the sust are the preloads in foil and the eq was packed from the factory!

 

[Diesel3d]

if the gear is real, i would check your diet over.

 

[buffarat]

probably not enough calories in the diet..........or your gear is fake.

 

[BigAndy69]

Post your diet, there's something wrong.

 

[Willyumyum]

Sounds like your diet may be out of wack if you are 99% sure that your gear is real...

YUM

 

[201mph]

my diet...

9am--protein drink in the am with a low fat cereal bar

noon--low fat granola bar at noon

2pm--6" roasted chicken breast sandwich from subway...dry,no cheese, lettuce and tomato only on wheat bread

5pm--either a protein drink or a low fat granola bar

9pm--post workout, protein drink, and either a salad with vinegar OR a low fat lean cuisine meal.

thanks for your help!!!

 

[BigAndy69]

my diet...

9am--protein drink in the am with a low fat cereal bar

noon--low fat granola bar at noon

2pm--6" roasted chicken breast sandwich from subway...dry,no cheese, lettuce and tomato only on wheat bread

5pm--either a protein drink or a low fat granola bar

9pm--post workout, protein drink, and either a salad with vinegar OR a low fat lean cuisine meal.

thanks for your help!!!

Well I've got ggod news for you, I've found your problem. That a SAAADDDD diet, very pathetic.

Lean cuisine and granola bars as meals?

Sorry, it's not that easy. You eat absolutely no meat, you should be eating meat 4-5 times a day, and shakes 2-3 times a day.

 

[marx]

my diet...

9am--protein drink in the am with a low fat cereal bar

noon--low fat granola bar at noon

2pm--6" roasted chicken breast sandwich from subway...dry,no cheese, lettuce and tomato only on wheat bread

5pm--either a protein drink or a low fat granola bar

9pm--post workout, protein drink, and either a salad with vinegar OR a low fat lean cuisine meal.

thanks for your help!!!

Ouch buddy, no wonder. You need a lot more real food in there, more cals, and more protein...

 

[Diesel3d]

my diet...

9am--protein drink in the am with a low fat cereal bar

noon--low fat granola bar at noon

2pm--6" roasted chicken breast sandwich from subway...dry,no cheese, lettuce and tomato only on wheat bread

5pm--either a protein drink or a low fat granola bar

9pm--post workout, protein drink, and either a salad with vinegar OR a low fat lean cuisine meal.

thanks for your help!!!

those granola bars will do jack shit for you. replace those meals with red meat + a good complex carb like whole wheat pasta, rice, or oatmeal. If you can't get meat then use a shake.

make sure your post workout drink has a lot of sugar in it.... dextros would be best.. have it right after your workout, then have another meal 1 hour later with a good complex carb with meat or a shake.

cereal bars have a lot of sugar in them.. i don't know what one you are using so i may be wrong. Replace it with oatmeal in the morning.

 

[the UNDERTAKER]

no flame intended bro(honestly) but that diet is shit!!!!400-700 cal. per meal depending on your goals you barely look like your getting 700 all day!! leaning out or not you should have around 4000 cal a day! chicken breast /tuna/RED MEAT!!/yams(yuk)/50g shakes 2 or 3 times a day!!! if your gear is real then your wasting it!!! turn that diet around quick. someone like quadsweep or a couple others are REAL pros at this check with them.. and good luck!

 

[burban21]

you need to eat a lot more. why spend the money on gear and have it go to waste. you obviously did not educate yourself about gear before your cycle. 4 weeks down the drain.

 

[bigpun]

I'm no diet expert, but I think I found your problem- you eat one and maybe one and a half solid meals a day!! Like the other fellas have said, a granola bar or a protein shake does not constitute a complete meal. BTW, at least try to make your subway sandwich a foot long, the only person I know who still eats a 6' is my 130lb. friend.

 

[Diesel3d]

also, don't space your meals so far apart. you have 4 hours with nothing in your body before you work out. . Add in a meal an hour before you work out. Make it a fast absorbing shake and a complex carb like oatmeal. Drink a sugary drink as you work out...

 

[BigAndy69]

I'm no diet expert, but I think I found your problem- you eat one and maybe one and a half solid meals a day!! Like the other fellas have said, a granola bar or a protein shake does not constitute a complete meal. BTW, at least try to make your subway sandwich a foot long, the only person I know who still eats a 6' is my 130lb. friend.

I know a few chicks who eat 6 inchers as well.

 

[gUiLe]

9pm--post workout, protein drink, and either a salad with vinegar OR a low fat lean cuisine meal.

The diet is sad, but the worse thing is the lean cuisine meal!
LOADED with trans fats!!!...not to mention sodium. Good thing
they make those for people who are dieting
g

 

[201mph]

you need to eat a lot more. why spend the money on gear and have it go to waste. you obviously did not educate yourself about gear before your cycle. 4 weeks down the drain.

this is my third cycle...i've been surfing this board for about three months trying to educate myself...after my first cycle i was up to 238#'s and did very well

this is my first attempt at a cutting cycle and thought that by eating less, it would keep the fat off...i was at 198# when i started

i put a post on the nutrition boards looking for a diet and it didn't generate much help???

now i know the problem...i will fix it...and thanks to all that replied...flame or no flame.

i just don't want to gain a bunch of weight...don't want my waist to get bigger!

201mph

 

[liquidmuscle]

spilled milk

no reason to get upset about it...it happens to the best of us,,switch suppliers and train harder next time that is all you can do

 

[##spiderbaby##]

If you eat clean you wont have a problem. I had a similar problem and all I did was up my protien intake and viola! strength started to climb in 3 days.

there are some good posts about protien intake and cutting.

 

[201mph]

what i don't understand is everybody says to eat a lot of red meat...but man, red meat has alot of fat...

so if i'm trying to cut, you would think to eliminate fat content which is red meat!!

but what the hell...i'll give it a try...i've got nothing to lose at this point

201 mph

 

[Jabs]

What kind of gains were you getting before you cycled? Steroids won't replace crappy diets and poor training habits. I hope that not case with you but it sounds like it. I received some fake shit before but I still was gaining a pound and half a week from the placebo affect.

 

[Torch]

Not all red meat is loaded with fat. You can buy 4% fat lean ground beef at the store, it has mad protein and low carbs.

Chicken and fish are good sources of protein too and also have low fat.

Get some Egg whites in the carton and have some of that shit for breakfast

 

[Riker29]

To cut effectively, from what I am learning:

You need a lot more protein.

The danger yui run into is what happened to me for liek 1-2 years. You are NOT eating enough.

Yor biudy os not getting enough protein and cals overal.. The problem the wil be that your body will start to eat muscle and hold fat, amost in a "panic" mode ......... and the you are also close to povertraining, which is NOT good ....

Eat a lot more protein.

Actually get some MORE cals.

If you want to cut, from what I am learning, get a lot of protein and maybe keep your carbs in check, like no sugar or high GI carbs (except for right after a workout) and also maybe have most carbs come from veggies.

Red meat is not so bad. In many ways it depends upon the cut oif it. A big steak (like 12-16 oz) with a lot of fat around the edges does have a lot of fat. There are leaner cuts, and a good portion size is 8 oz.

Get some good Oils (like EFAs, or Udo'd Oil brand).

so load up on protein, get carbs, simple/high-GI ones after a workout, and maybe less (like from veggies) other times of day.

and do NOT overtrain.

Thats MY understanding - anyone agree or not?

 

[da big thinker]

I know a few chicks who eat 6 inchers as well.

lmao...

it amazes me how some people consider a shake a meal...a shake should be considered as a SUPPLEMENT...not a meal.this would mean that you must eat 4-5 whole meals/day and SUPPLEMENT your diet w/ shakes to add additional protein/carbs/fat IF necessary...

 

[Frackal]

my diet...

9am--protein drink in the am with a low fat cereal bar

noon--low fat granola bar at noon

2pm--6" roasted chicken breast sandwich from subway...dry,no cheese, lettuce and tomato only on wheat bread

5pm--either a protein drink or a low fat granola bar

9pm--post workout, protein drink, and either a salad with vinegar OR a low fat lean cuisine meal.

thanks for your help!!!

You shouldnt be using steroids. What a joke.

 

[Twitched]

I would feel guilty if I ate all of that for breakfast... not enough protein..

 

[liquidmuscle]

keep in mind eq/sust take toodamn long imo to kick in i like prop/fina that way by wk 2-3 its already blowin your gym shoes off

 

[liquidmuscle]

keep in mind eq/sust take too damn long imo to kick in i like prop/fina that way by wk 2-3 its already blowin your gym shoes off