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[markimacm]

I am about to start a new 16 week cycle. please review and tell me your thoughts of this combo etc. I also am not sure how often to do this cycle on a per week basis and how much of it etc. also do all 3 of these get mixed in together or seperate?

Week 1-16 400mg EQ (how many times per week)?
Week 1-16 500mg Test prop (how many times per week)?
Week 1-6 50mg winny per day (do I do this alone or combine it with other two during shot)?

 

[joeblow12345]

Stats including age?

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[markimacm]

32 years old...235 pounds...stomach on me but working on doing a little cardio...6 ft 1''

 

[markimacm]

Stats including age?

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32 years old...235 pounds...stomach on me but working on doing a little cardio...6 ft 1''

 

[training700]

I honestly like the combination. How many cycles have you ran? Seem inexperienced is why I ask. Test prop eod injections will work for that time frame should consider a longer test for less frequent injections. EQ can inject once or twice a week. Winny can do eod but many do ed or just drink it.

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[joeblow12345]

I am about to start a new 16 week cycle. please review and tell me your thoughts of this combo etc. I also am not sure how often to do this cycle on a per week basis and how much of it etc. also do all 3 of these get mixed in together or seperate?

Week 1-16 400mg EQ (how many times per week)?
Week 1-16 500mg Test prop (how many times per week)?
Week 1-6 50mg winny per day (do I do this alone or combine it with other two during shot)?

I feel to get the most benefit out of eq it needs to be ran 16+ weeks. You can combine all injectables in the same syringe whether they are oil based or water. You should really get some test e or c as the prop is a bad choice for a long cycle. It has to be shot ed or eod and that will get old fast. The winny needs to be shot ed though. You have 2 options here, you can get test e and run the eq and winny, or you can leave out the eq and just run the prop and winny. Do you wanna run a long cycle or short?

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[training700]

Can also run the winny at the end as a finisher for longer than others so that as they clear for pct

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[markimacm]

im only going to do a 16 week cycle.

 

[joeblow12345]

im only going to do a 16 week cycle.

Then you need to get some test e or c. Here is how id run it.
1-16 test e 500 mgs week
1-16 eq 500 mgs week
12-18 winny 50 mg day
1-16 adex 0.5 mg eod or e3d
4-14 hcgenerate
14-18 hcg 250 ius 2xs week
18-22 clomid 25 mg day
18-22 postcycle/unleashed
18-22 daa
18-22 forma
22-26 bridge( highly reccomend)



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[dylangemelli]

you absolutely are not going to run prop for 16 weeks... i would run test e for 14 weeks... bump your eq to 500-600 mg...

1-14 test e 500 mg week
1-14 aromasin 12.5 mg eod
1-16 eq 600 mg week
9-16 hcg 500 iu's week or hcgenerate
11-16 winnie 50 mg day
11-16 n2guard

pct

7-10 clomid 25/25/25/25
7-10 Unleashed/post cycle combo
7-10 forma stanzol
7-10 daa powerchews or powder

 

[muscleaddiction]

Like Dylan and Joe said, and you could add 100 mg Test Prop EOD for first 4 weeks until Test E kicks in...which is what I have been doing and is really sweet ...but also running Tbol and Proviron as well.

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[markimacm]

so im a little confused guys! what i was under the impression of doing since i have on hand is test prop. but i have 2 different buddys telling me two diff cycles. i wanna narrow it down and begin ASAP. here is another option i have (because of what is on hand) just need to put program together correctly..

Week 1-16 400mg EQ
Week 1-16 500mg enanthate
Week 1-6 50mg winny per day

OR

Test 400mg a week
Tren ace 300 a week
Masteron Prop 300 a week

OR

Test Prop
EQ
Winny

 

[joeblow12345]

so im a little confused guys! what i was under the impression of doing since i have on hand is test prop. but i have 2 different buddys telling me two diff cycles. i wanna narrow it down and begin ASAP. here is another option i have (because of what is on hand) just need to put program together correctly..

Week 1-16 400mg EQ
Week 1-16 500mg enanthate
Week 1-6 50mg winny per day

OR

Test 400mg a week
Tren ace 300 a week
Masteron Prop 300 a week

OR

Test Prop
EQ
Winny

If you wanna use the prop than do a 6 week cycle of.
1-6 prop 75 mg ed
1-6 winny 50 mg day

If your dead set on 16 weeks then go.
1-16 test e 500 mgs week
1-16 eq 500 mgs week
12-18 winny

If your gonna run the tren then go

1-10 test prop 100 mg eod
1-8 tren ace 75 mg eod
1-10 mast p 100 mg eod

Theres 3 different options that I would run personally. Dylans layout is good also if you wanna go that way. Everyone is a little different and you have to find whats best for you.

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[rewaste]

This is a simple combo not to hard but test is a bit low

600 mg Eq is the best long run shot Monday 300 and Thursday 300

Ent would be better. To keep the test balance in your body prop 75 mg ed best 100 mg

If you can get ent take 250mg m, w, f

Winny why waste of money this is really worth it at when you are closer to goal wt.
If you can get Mast ent type take 300 once a week.

Nice basic cycle don't forget your hcg around 9 weeks and proper pct

But all is lost if diet is not in check

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[markimacm]

I'm not dead set on anything but I have in past been only on a 14 week max cycle. I am open to lengths though as long as obviously i am on a proper regime. Here is what I may do for 6 weeks and then switch for balance of how ever many weeks depending on what is correct to take from that point on.

weeks 1-6 1cc test prop EOD
weeks 1-6 50mg winny ED

If you wanna use the prop than do a 6 week cycle of.
1-6 prop 75 mg ed
1-6 winny 50 mg day

If your dead set on 16 weeks then go.
1-16 test e 500 mgs week
1-16 eq 500 mgs week
12-18 winny

If your gonna run the tren then go

1-10 test prop 100 mg eod
1-8 tren ace 75 mg eod
1-10 mast p 100 mg eod

Theres 3 different options that I would run personally. Dylans layout is good also if you wanna go that way. Everyone is a little different and you have to find whats best for you.

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[joeblow12345]

I'm not dead set on anything but I have in past been only on a 14 week max cycle. I am open to lengths though as long as obviously i am on a proper regime. Here is what I may do for 6 weeks and then switch for balance of how ever many weeks depending on what is correct to take from that point on.

weeks 1-6 1cc test prop EOD
weeks 1-6 50mg winny ED

Its better to use winny as a finisher instead of a kicker. If you wanna kickstart go with tbol at 60 mg day 1-6. Switching test esters is fine if you wanna go that route, but both need to be run from the start. You need to run eq atleast 16 weeks although I prefer more. But its up to you and if your willing to be a pin cushion as ed injections are a pain. And prop had the most painful pip of any aas I have used.

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[muscleaddiction]

Its better to use winny as a finisher instead of a kicker. If you wanna kickstart go with tbol at 60 mg day 1-6. Switching test esters is fine if you wanna go that route, but both need to be run from the start. You need to run eq atleast 16 weeks although I prefer more. But its up to you and if your willing to be a pin cushion as ed injections are a pain. And prop had the most painful pip of any aas I have used.

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Solid advice here!!!

 

[markimacm]

so what if i took winny out the picture for right now...prop and i have tbol on hand actually coincidentally can that be cool for 6 weeks? i also have eq on hand too!

 

[markimacm]

im alos trying to get a feel for a prop cycle so a quick 6 week blast would work of prop and possibly winny, no?

 

[muscleaddiction]

1-16 Test E 500mg EW (pinned 2x @ 250mg M & Th)
1-16 EQ 600mg EW (pinned 2x @ 300mg M & Th)
1-4 Test Prop 100mg EOD
1-6 Tbol 60mg ED
13-18 Anavar 60-80mg ED for last 6 weeks of cycle...or use your Winny the last 6 weeks!

Just my suggestion...as it is what I am doing right now...3 weeks in and people are commenting on my physique, told them extra calories .

 

[markimacm]

Excellent cycle BTW...keep in mind I am not that experienced as this will be my 3rd cycle so far at 32 yrs old. im only getting into right eating habits now along with cardio. ive always been solid and built big but have a gut which i am working on!

1-16 Test E 500mg EW (pinned 2x @ 250mg M & Th)
1-16 EQ 600mg EW (pinned 2x @ 300mg M & Th)
1-4 Test Prop 100mg EOD
1-6 Tbol 60mg ED
13-18 Anavar 60-80mg ED for last 6 weeks of cycle...or use your Winny the last 6 weeks!

Just my suggestion...as it is what I am doing right now...3 weeks in and people are commenting on my physique, told them extra calories .

 

[joeblow12345]

im alos trying to get a feel for a prop cycle so a quick 6 week blast would work of prop and possibly winny, no?

If you did that then you should do a pct and come off. I would run one of the long cycle options though. If you really wanna try the prop then run the cycle muscleaddiction layed out.

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[markimacm]

I think I am leaning more towards this, please correct me if I should change any of this up. Again my stats are 32 yrs old. 6ft 1" 235 pounds chubby but solid... ( i am familiar with this cycle and have done similar cycle last year) I am also now getting strict on cardio and dieting:

1-16 test E 500mg EW (pinned 2x @ 250mg M & Th)
1-16 EQ 600mg EW (pinned 2x @ 300mg M & Th)
1-4 test Prop 100mg EOD
1-6 Tbol 60mg ED

 

[markimacm]

??? Anyone?

 

[muscleaddiction]

I think I am leaning more towards this, please correct me if I should change any of this up. Again my stats are 32 yrs old. 6ft 1" 235 pounds chubby but solid... ( i am familiar with this cycle and have done similar cycle last year) I am also now getting strict on cardio and dieting:

1-16 test E 500mg EW (pinned 2x @ 250mg M & Th)
1-16 EQ 600mg EW (pinned 2x @ 300mg M & Th)
1-4 test Prop 100mg EOD
1-6 Tbol 60mg ED

Get strict on your diet and cardio prior to your cycle...get that dialed if first and foremost! The cycle looks good ...still need to discuss your PCT and on-cycle support too.

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[markimacm]

im working on diet but my body size has been the same since i was a little kid. i grow and my body follows im naturally a big built guy. the only thing i can do is be more strict about my diet and excercise which i have been and plan on continuing. For PCT i have used this in past and am familiar with it:

Forma Stanzol
HCGenerate
Post Cycle
Unleashed

 

[markimacm]

not sure what you mean about ON CYCLE support though?

 

[muscleaddiction]

not sure what you mean about ON CYCLE support though?

Sorry, was watching the 49er game, wanted to finish it before jumping onto the computer...just check out my log and check out my cycle and supplementation, it should give you a few ideas ...

http://www.elitefitness.com/forum/m...gth-honor-muscle-addiction-2013-a-971113.html

Let me know if you have any questions!

 

[dylangemelli]

only run your test for 14 weeks as opposed to 16... there won't be much of a difference there and you are just making your recovery time much longer... you don't need two kickstarts... run prop or tbol... pick on or the other... if you run tbol then run it four weeks at 60 mg day... i would run aromasin as well at 12.5 mg eod...

pct

7-10 clomid 25/25/25/25
7-10 Unleashed/post cycle combo
7-10 forma stanzol
7-10 daa powerchews or powder

 

[markimacm]

ok so if i understand correctly this is what my cycle will look like:

1-16 test E 500mg EW (pinned 2x @ 250mg M & Th)
1-16 EQ 600mg EW (pinned 2x @ 300mg M & Th)
1-4 test Prop 100mg EOD

PCT:

Formal Stanzol
HCGenerate
Unleashed
Post Cycle
Clomid on hand (optional)

 

[markimacm]

i am familiar with above cycle but never done it. i have never injected more than 2ml per time on any cycle in past, this seems like its 1ml+1ml+1ml which is 3ml a whole needle...that is a lot compared to what i have done in past per shot...is this correct though?

 

[markimacm]

????

 

[joeblow12345]

i am familiar with above cycle but never done it. i have never injected more than 2ml per time on any cycle in past, this seems like its 1ml+1ml+1ml which is 3ml a whole needle...that is a lot compared to what i have done in past per shot...is this correct though?

Only on the days were prop is used. And its fine to inject 3mls at once. The prop has to be shot 3-4 times a week though. I will say though if youve never shot prop your in for a rude surprise. The pip is awful the first cycle, but it gets a little better.

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[markimacm]

y is prop so harsh? i did the shot today my arm is killing me

 

[joeblow12345]

y is prop so harsh? i did the shot today my arm is killing me

Ya wait until you do a quad shot. You will be walking like a pimp for days.

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[nb01741]

why dont you run your winny on the back end, 50mg ED. 12-18?
1-14 Test E (500mg/wk)
1-16 EQ (600mg/wk)
1-4 Test Prop 100mg/EOD
12-18 Winny 50mg/ED