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A Pros outlook on AAS and Dosing

al420

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This is from an interview done by getbig w/ Lee Priest:

I will say it again. I have had a lot of letter and emails from people. People who I speak to at contests, and amateurs, who come up to me and they give me their drug cycles, and I again am saying it, every time I see their drug cycles, it is more than what I have ever taken, it is more than what Paul Dillett took. I lived with Paul for a while, and I heard the rumors of what Paul was taking, and when I saw what he used, it wasn't even half of what people think. I think there is a rumor out there that because this guys supposedly takes these drugs, he looks like that, and if I can take that much drugs, I can look like him. The sad thing is that half of these amateurs are taking way more than the pros will ever take. So if you don't have it genetically, mentally, physically, sure the drugs will be a part of it, but if you don't have the whole aspect of it, your lifestyle, training, eating, resting, everything else - then take all the drugs you want because I am sure that there are people out there on the bulletin boards who like to badmouth people and use drugs, and look like crap. Everything is centered around drugs, drugs, drugs. Every other sport uses them but we get labled the most and if anything happens to someone in the sport, it is the drugs. Give me a break. Even when they talk about Flex Wheeler, some say that maybe the drugs helped bring that on to him. You know, maybe the drugs helped him by slowing it down.

I had a friend in Australia, he was a nice guy, he ended up dying from AIDS. He would use a little bit of Deca and Growth Hormones to stay in shape and whatever. When he went to the doctor and found out he had AIDS, the doctor told him that because he had used those drugs, and he didn't know he had the disease, it added like seven years to his life. Many steroids are prescribed. And when they are given the right amounts, they are fine. You can abuse anything, and get side effects. You can abuse aspirin, you can abuse any prescription drug, and have all the problems in the world. If you use it correctly, you won't have the problems. It's just the abuse. People think 200 works good, 400 works twice as good, hey I'll get 600, it will work 3 times as good. They keep doing it and doing it until their body can't take it anymore. There's usually more to it than just drugs.
 
There are more then a few around here that might benifit from reading this ....

The few pro's i know do short cycles of high androgen loading ( like 6 weeks max ) recover and do it all over again ... unlike the crowd who stays on for months and months and months and months at a time , just to stop and go back on 4 weeks later .

To each his own ... your life is yours to live and learn , the wise ones learn from others mistakes , so they don't make the same .
 
Lee has always claimed to only use low to moderate cycles. He has the genetics that allows him to do this.
 
I think for bulking most on here have it down in terms of eating enough to grow (maybe with too much fat in the process but whatever) but in terms of cutting there is no doubt this goes on. Guys on here are trying to cut by taking 800mg/week of tren instead of eating well and taking 400mg.
 
boxerjake said:
There are more then a few around here that might benifit from reading this ....

The few pro's i know do short cycles of high androgen loading ( like 6 weeks max ) recover and do it all over again ... unlike the crowd who stays on for months and months and months and months at a time , just to stop and go back on 4 weeks later .

To each his own ... your life is yours to live and learn , the wise ones learn from others mistakes , so they don't make the same .

what would that 6 week cycle look like?
 
solidspine said:
Andy-----I like your cycle, looks great, how is it going?

I actually got very sick about a week in...thats why I haven't updated. I basically am 2 weeks in now and right where I started. I had a temperature of 103 at one point, somehow I haven't lost anything...probably because I haven't stopped the gear and tried to make the gym everyday I felt up to it.

Luckily its a long cycle so now that I'm finally getting over my sickness, I'll be able to have some badass results.
 
seems like the prevelant attitude most places these days is Long cycles High doses...

I disagree with that strongly, always have.
 
The thing is that these guys look good BEFORE they juice. Then when they do...BAM they explode. If you take a guy with shitty genetics, then give them some goods, you will end up with a big guy who looks like shit (Greg Kovacs). I doubt Lee Priest was once a 24 year old 117 lb boy who decided to get big one day. Sure I am sure you could build some sort of physique to look decent with average genetics, but not the kind you see in the magazines. Those guys were made to be freaks.
 
heh I'm pretty sure you wouldn't end up with Kovacs.. before he ruined his lines Greg had a great build, huge size and insane strength. You'd end up with the typical roid board guru, 200 sloppy and weak as a kitten.

really all that matters is genetics, you can train someone with average genetics for 10 years, training, diet and recovery could be 100% but get a guy with grade A receptors on the sauce with a half assed program and BOOM... he'd eclipse the first guy in months.
 
I have always been on my soapbox about this.......more than 500 of test or a gram/week total is foolish and a waste of gear. If you cannot eat and train well enough to get results from a 500 test/12 week cycle then you are doing something wrong.
 
letsrun4it said:
I actually got very sick about a week in...thats why I haven't updated. I basically am 2 weeks in now and right where I started. I had a temperature of 103 at one point, somehow I haven't lost anything...probably because I haven't stopped the gear and tried to make the gym everyday I felt up to it.

Luckily its a long cycle so now that I'm finally getting over my sickness, I'll be able to have some badass results.


Good post....but the rabbit avatar takes the cake!
 
drugs drugs drugs. lee is complaing about people asking about drugs and suspecting higher doses? Lmao the training has not changed much sense 1970 even h.i.t training was around when viator did it in the early 70's the food is pretty much the same a few supplements big deal only thing diff is in fact the drugs the GH,igf il-15 all of this new stuff to get abused from 1995 to today
Imagine if lee preist told the public eye this . I do test prop tren shots every single day, 5 anadrol. 2 grams of test cyp a week 1000mg of deca,200mg of winstrol for cutting 800 mg of equipose and so on people from outside the sport would think jesus he is some kinda fucking crack head not knowing its just the same as what the other guys use also.
so lee just resorts to the old "hey i only pop a few pills and do a couple shots" to avoid the drug questions.
 
I think we can all agree the sport has taken a SHARP bad turn in the past several yrs..shit, gear is the least of BBrs worries!! Massive amounts of HGH,slin,IGF-1..eating bad foods in order to"bulk" If you're 5'9" and 260, to your body you are OBESE..The heart has to pump more blood to more mass..I think many people forget this fact..DNP is also pretty crazy!! Snythol is a joke and killed a buddy of mine several yrs back...I just don't get it.....

JJ
 
Maybe I'm the only one who has thought of this but is it possible the reason novices are jumping into insane doseages so fast because first cycles are so amazing? You get used to the freakish gains and then nothing less than that will do. If we all gained 6 pounds of muscle in our first cycle I think we'd be ok taking it slow.
 
I often talk to Chris Cormier and some of the dosages he recommended are crazy. So I would believe all of these pros are taking a shit load of gear.
 
Make no mistake they all have 1 in 10 million genetics along with insane drives and discipline along with even more ridiculously retarded drug bills from all the hgh,igf insulin and god knows what else.I knew the late Paul Demayo and Mike Matarazzo and believe me they didnt run 6 week cycles and if you believe that they do you might as well keep believing in the tooth fairy and Santa Claus.
 
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