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Thanks SBT!sbt2082 said:
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sgtslaughter said:Like you said "I'd rather be very good/master of a few things than be a jack of all trades" ... something to that effect
... I'm really curious as to what will happen to my isolation movements after I decide to switch it up again.
My plan, as of this momment, is not to do ANYTHING off the training routine other than abs and cardio on my off days (i'm sure i'll take 1 full day off too).... no curlage at all.
Sarge, when you train a few lifts that give functional carryover, everything will be much stronger after you get reacclimated. For example, a guy who can squat 500lbs ATF raw or in just a belt who never does leg presses can leg press for a few weeks and shouldn't have a problem repping with 1000...whereas the guy who never squats , but leg presses 1000lbs would not only be crushed by a 500 squat, but he'd have to take a long time developing the stabalization to even squat his bodyweight.
Just getting strong in general over a few lifts will carryover to all that iso stuff if/when you want to resume it.
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Makes sense
What do you think about DB's and BB carry over?
What do you think about DB's and BB carry over?
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sgtslaughter said:Makes sense
What do you think about DB's and BB carry over?
With me, I don't think switching to dumbells gives magic carryover. It can help strengthen stabalizers, and then when you go back to the barbell and reacclimate and begin a training cycle, you could break through a plateau. A lot of guys use dumbells for 1 or 2 weeks, then come back the the barbell stronger and think the d-bells magically strengthened them, but really, it is simply a deload, the combined weight of the dumbells is less than what they were using on the bar and the fatique faded and they weren't away from the barbell long enough for their gains to fade/get de-acclimated/lose their groove.
I went off track from what you were most likely asking. Yes, it will carryover....if you're SIGNIFICANTLY stronger on the barbell, you'll be able to handle heavier dumbells.....a 350lb bencher who never used dumbells will be able to pick up a pair and blow away a 250lb bencher who trains with dumbells.
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Ok... it all comes back to the basic load and deloading of progressive resistance
I like to think of my DB bench being decent (80's x 5... haven't gone for triples or singles with DB's). Maybe it's not... at any rate... it's something about the positioning of me and my pressing movement that get's all EFFED up when using a barbell.... i'm going to work on figuring what's wrong with my form. I have a feeling my elbows flare/stay parrell with the bar when i'm not paying attention
may have to vid myself.
I like to think of my DB bench being decent (80's x 5... haven't gone for triples or singles with DB's). Maybe it's not... at any rate... it's something about the positioning of me and my pressing movement that get's all EFFED up when using a barbell.... i'm going to work on figuring what's wrong with my form. I have a feeling my elbows flare/stay parrell with the bar when i'm not paying attention
may have to vid myself.SgtSlaughter
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8/3/06 - Thursday
Cardio:
10 minutes walking Incline (8-12.0) @ 3-3.5 speed
10 minutes fast pace Hill Intervals Arch Trainer
5 minutes Step Mill 8-14 speed, varying steps, wide..narrow, on toes, ect
^^^^ Did Step mill again after I got my heart rate down and some h20.
Abs:
3 sets Below Sea Level ala Ghede
80x8, 90x8, 110x8
I saw some kid swinging the leg extension machine... like Cheat extentions!! WTF?!?!?! lol... dumb ass is going to bust his knees off. He even propped himself up using his hands on the side under his glutes
Cardio:
10 minutes walking Incline (8-12.0) @ 3-3.5 speed
10 minutes fast pace Hill Intervals Arch Trainer
5 minutes Step Mill 8-14 speed, varying steps, wide..narrow, on toes, ect
^^^^ Did Step mill again after I got my heart rate down and some h20.
Abs:
3 sets Below Sea Level ala Ghede
80x8, 90x8, 110x8
I saw some kid swinging the leg extension machine... like Cheat extentions!! WTF?!?!?! lol... dumb ass is going to bust his knees off. He even propped himself up using his hands on the side under his glutes
Way to HIIT that cardiosgtslaughter said:8/3/06 - Thursday
Cardio:
10 minutes walking Incline (8-12.0) @ 3-3.5 speed
10 minutes fast pace Hill Intervals Arch Trainer
5 minutes Step Mill 8-14 speed, varying steps, wide..narrow, on toes, ect
^^^^ Did Step mill again after I got my heart rate down and some h20.
Abs:
3 sets Below Sea Level ala Ghede
80x8, 90x8, 110x8
I saw some kid swinging the leg extension machine... like Cheat extentions!! WTF?!?!?! lol... dumb ass is going to bust his knees off. He even propped himself up using his hands on the side under his glutes
Yeah yeah yeah, lame joke I know 
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lol... you said it, not Isbt2082 said:Way to HIIT that cardio
Thanks... yah, I can't really help that, eh.jpt said:
I think it all stems way back to my moron lifting years (or rather...more moronic diet, or lack thereof for yeeeears). I used to do back work all the time... had a V taper and traps since highschool... but that's all that grew right off the bat. My bench was much worst than it is now, I think I used to struggle with the bar (yes... 45lbs). But i don't remember ... I blocked the bad memories out from my mind, lol.
And squating... used to do 1/8 squats with 315 in the highschool weight room for my track coach, lol.
Nothing is better than self education and the RIGHT people pointing you in the right directions that's for sure.
No gym tonight... planned trip to the Beach for some AWESOME pizza and just walk around a bit.
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