6' 190-200lbs is not "buff/built"

[biggernu]

I have to laugh when I hear people say my friend is 190-200 and 6' tall and man is he built or in a womans case "buff". I weigh 248 at 6' tall in this picture and I still consider myself one of the smaller guys.

Damn dude you look good man. im 6 ft 200 and aint even close to that much mass, what are you using to get that much vascularity?

 

[holy ghost]

that is lean bro 6" 200

 

[biggernu]

that is lean bro 6" 200

yeah im around 5 percent body fat now with calipers.

 

[nzrodney]

yeah im around 5 percent body fat now with calipers.

Thats some nice work bro, can you maintain that level of BF for any length of time? What % carb, protein , fat do you eat & how many calories ED?

 

[biggernu]

Thats some nice work bro, can you maintain that level of BF for any length of time? What % carb, protein , fat do you eat & how many calories ED?

Well i can gain or loose weight when ever, i have never broke 200. My diet isnt something great, i eat alot of meat, alot of hamburgers, 2 55g protein shakes a day (muscle juice 2544), and 64 ounces of water a day, i never drink pop, and quit drinking alcohol. Imagine what i can do if i get a good diet?

 

[BOWTECH]

Damn dude you look good man. im 6 ft 200 and aint even close to that much mass, what are you using to get that much vascularity?

Thank you.....Alot of my vascularity comes from genetics. My dad was also very broad shouldered and look like he had ropes running through his arms for veins.

 

[glennds]

Same at you Bro. Not to many of us old timers can run with the youngsters as far as conditioning goes.
I'm trying to take as many pix as possible, cause I know this ain't gonna last for much longer - lol.

oldtimers? you had to call us that? maybe we are at 45, but we got a few years left before we start to fall apart.

with hard work, good living, good genetics, and smart steroid use you can still "keep us with the youngsters". maybe even without the juice, but it helps. i am convinced steroid use will eventually go mainstream as men get over the stigma and see the incredible benefits.

 

[zouave]

body image is all about personal psychology. i'm 6'1 225, and when i was a cut 200, people told me i looked "gaunt" (with clothes on). my face and overall profile just look better at 225, even though i'm not cut. alot of people look good at 6 190 though. i think that being jacked or buff or whatever has more to do with appearance--proportion, definition, etc--than with a number that pops up on a scale.

 

[st8grad]

Makavelli is/was 195 and 4-5% bf and I think he is buff/built. Check out his profile and you guys tell me.

But if you are looking for an ego pump, then you look solid too bro.

I wonder if Wayne Gretzky thinks that guys that can't score 90+ goals in a season aren't good or elite? Mario Lemieux, Brett Hull, Gordie Howe, Joe Sakic, Bobby Orr, Jamir Jagr, etc.

 

[biggernu]

Thank you.....Alot of my vascularity comes from genetics. My dad was also very broad shouldered and look like he had ropes running through his arms for veins.

I got some good natural vasc, but damn, thats awesome. Im sure as my arms get bigger it will show more, i just shaved my legs today and holy cow, my veins in the calves scared the shit out of me.

 

[holy ghost]

why did you shave your legs

 

[perryscoon]

I'm so glad I'm out of the "i want everyone to watch me bench/squat" phase. I think everyone goes through that from like 18-25 or so. Now, i could give two fucks what people see me lift. Hell, half the time I use the Nautilus machines now with the same results. whatever

 

[holy ghost]

you cant think about anything else other than pushing weight or else it will INTERFER COMPLETELY with your training and jeoparadize your growth and time

 

[biggernu]

why did you shave your legs

They were getting long, gf didn't think id do it, and it looks much better tanned with little hair or none.

 

[glennds]

why did you shave your legs

tough crowd here. but was wondering same thing,

 

[biggernu]

I was going to trim them so it wasn't curly, but i slipped witht he clippers and had a bald spot so i said fuck it, did em all.

 

[holy ghost]

oh

 

[DJ_UFO]

Good point...But once again it dont matter how big i am, to me i am not bg enough...Their is always someone bigger and more cut up..I think thats how alot of us feel

oh yeah! gotcha! and that is the dangerous part. Is the same for a model who thinks that she is fat; and she keeps losing weight because she knows there is another model more popular and hotter out there so she stop eating and drop pound after pound; this is the same but the other way, and is not healthy. Of course there will be bigger guys than you; but YOU DEFINE YOUR OWN GOALS; look for a specific model or bodybuilder and take it as your target; once you reach your point, probably you'll feel small again, but that's where your brain interfere and define what is wrong and what is right.

 

[tracemhunter]

I shaved my legs (and entire body except for armpits) for the first time last week and its fucking weird wearing jeans now. But other than that it feels good and increases definition.

 

[glennds]

I was going to trim them so it wasn't curly, but i slipped witht he clippers and had a bald spot so i said fuck it, did em all.

guess i am out of touch but i never met a guy who shaved his legs.

 

[Sean Scott]

Nice post Bro...K your way....I just consider bodybuilding a lifestyle. I know I'll never be even close to the biggest. But it is nice being able to turn heads on the beach....lol.....At least I'll look good in my coffin Thanks for the compliment.

I couldnt have said it better then the guy before. You look good keep up the good work.

Myself I am trying to gain it is hard. eat eat..train and train.

 

[bigmac7777777]

I have to laugh when I hear people say my friend is 190-200 and 6' tall and man is he built or in a womans case "buff". I weigh 248 at 6' tall in this picture and I still consider myself one of the smaller guys.

I'm 5 "11" 210 and as lean as you in that pic and look just as big even though I'm 38 pounds less. I've seen guys who weigh less than 200 make you and me look small. Hell, Flex Wheeler weighed 235 I believe in contest shape. It matters a hell of alot more how the muscle looks on the individual rather than what the scales say. I routinely ask people at the gym how much they think I weigh and the response is usually 230. People with small joints and full muscle bellies always look bigger. Your post is a slap in the face to everyone in the gym who busts their ass everyday to put on more QUALITY size. And don't jump on me with that newbie bullshit. I've been in the gym 15 years and have been around when anabolic androgenic steroids were like buying supplements. I rather just not post for the sake of posting, but your thread is condescending and rude at best so I had to say something. Now go jump back on the scale big gay, I mean guy!

 

[glennds]

...I just consider bodybuilding a lifestyle. I know I'll never be even close to the biggest. But it is nice being able to turn heads on the beach....lol.....At least I'll look good in my coffin .

listen i have seen some of bowtech's cycles. that coffin might be closer than you think.

 

[Powerbuilder333]

I was going to trim them so it wasn't curly, but i slipped witht he clippers and had a bald spot so i said fuck it, did em all.

You don't spend years to build a good physique, and then let it be covered by a mohair coverall - lol.

 

[biggernu]

You don't spend years to build a good physique, and then let it be covered by a mohair coverall - lol.

Lol . It does feel weird. I got to get the hair between my butt done. I couldnt get in there my self. I hate when my balls stick to my leg.

 

[Powerbuilder333]

Lol . It does feel weird. I got to get the hair between my butt done. I couldnt get in there my self. I hate when my balls stick to my leg.

LOL - that's one area where very short hair is better than no hair. Heat rashes in the summer, dry skin in the winter, it's miserable.

 

[bigman44]

Nice post Bro...K your way....I just consider bodybuilding a lifestyle. I know I'll never be even close to the biggest. But it is nice being able to turn heads on the beach....lol.....At least I'll look good in my coffin Thanks for the compliment.

ya alot of ppl my age think im some big ass buff dude wen really im not im the smallest at my gym and i think i have a decent build im 6'2 around 220 to 225 but i kno wat ur sayin some ppl say kids that r smaller then me are big as fuck nd it pisses me off but u gotta keep in mind they r the ppl that nv steped into a gym ever

 

[khemix]

6'2, under 200lbs in that pic. Low bf tho. I wouldn't say skinny bean pole, but wouldn't say jacked either. I think i do okay.

 

[P4D2A022]

dude, ya look fukn great. i wish i had that bf%. im one of those ppl thats a fan of veins. maybe cause i only have them in my forearms lol. but seriously, u lookin good

 

[Bruce]

foolish statement. 185 at 5% is jacked in a big fucking way let alone 190, look at pics of makavelli 6 feet 190 and tell me that. someone who is 220 20% bf has way less muscle mass than a person who is 190 single digit. some of the best looking light heavies go on stage at 185 and look spectacular and by no means are not jacked.

 

[holy ghost]

the good thing about 185 is you can LOOK 225 if youre big enough but still WEIGH 185


its a very flexible weight

 

[Bruce]

yep all these guys are 176-185 and are quite jacked.
http://images.google.com/images?hl=...odybuilder+champion&um=1&ie=UTF-8&sa=N&tab=wi

bowtech i know you man good bro, but come on what is jacked now. jay or ronny, no that is freak. arnie and the oldies that is original freak and bodybuilder level. jacked even applies in my opinion to anyone who is noticably muscular and lean. t.o is fucking jacked yet people on here will call him skinny. jacked means you have a physique full of muscle, it doesn't mean you are competitive bber. by real world standards bro 6 foot 190 low bf is very jacked sorry, not necesarily bber but jacked. lets remember makavelli on here search his pics at 195 6 foot and tell me he isn't jacked

 

[P4D2A022]

yep. height and BF man

 

[BOWTECH]

I think alot of you guys are taking the post wrong. Where Im from you have people in that weight range that have decent arms and chest but the rest looks rough. No legs and also a gut. That's what I am refering to. And all there friends say hey man check out my buddy. He's jacked. But in fact if he lost all that excess bf he would be much smaller than he appears.

There are guys out there that are under 200lbs at 6' and are shredded and look great but remember thay are pushing the (low) single digits of bf and that's why they look so good.

I have a buddy that I have to laugh at that thinks he has a great physique. It looks like he is 9 months pregnant and he thinks he's going to be the next Arnold.

Alot of people have a very GREAT physique on this board but remember those that do same as professional athletes are in the minority in the world. This post was not meant to be offensive.

 

[BOWTECH]

I'm 5 "11" 210 and as lean as you in that pic and look just as big even though I'm 38 pounds less. I've seen guys who weigh less than 200 make you and me look small. Hell, Flex Wheeler weighed 235 I believe in contest shape. It matters a hell of alot more how the muscle looks on the individual rather than what the scales say. I routinely ask people at the gym how much they think I weigh and the response is usually 230. People with small joints and full muscle bellies always look bigger. Your post is a slap in the face to everyone in the gym who busts their ass everyday to put on more QUALITY size. And don't jump on me with that newbie bullshit. I've been in the gym 15 years and have been around when anabolic androgenic steroids were like buying supplements. I rather just not post for the sake of posting, but your thread is condescending and rude at best so I had to say something. Now go jump back on the scale big gay, I mean guy!

LOL........You have to remember this post is speaking in general. Look at our population. 40,000,000 Americans are considered obese and will deny it. Weightlifters and fitness buffs are in the 1 percentile of the rest of the world. You took this thread as an attack when it was just a general statement.

 

[BOWTECH]

yep all these guys are 176-185 and are quite jacked.
http://images.google.com/images?hl=...odybuilder+champion&um=1&ie=UTF-8&sa=N&tab=wi

bowtech i know you man good bro, but come on what is jacked now. jay or ronny, no that is freak. arnie and the oldies that is original freak and bodybuilder level. jacked even applies in my opinion to anyone who is noticably muscular and lean. t.o is fucking jacked yet people on here will call him skinny. jacked means you have a physique full of muscle, it doesn't mean you are competitive bber. by real world standards bro 6 foot 190 low bf is very jacked sorry, not necesarily bber but jacked. lets remember makavelli on here search his pics at 195 6 foot and tell me he isn't jacked

Bruce I agree but how many people really are in the single digits when it comes to BF. Those are PROFESSIONALS and they do that for a living. They are paid to stay in that kind of shape. Go to a sporting event and take 500 fans and I will bet MAYBE 5-10 people will look good. The rest will be out of shape and majority of them would be obese. We are talking the general population here.

 

[DannoMight]

the good thing about 185 is you can LOOK 225 if youre big enough but still WEIGH 185


its a very flexible weight

especially at 5'9" or under in most cases. Thats where about I want to weigh in at for my next comp.

 

[Acela]

6'2, under 200lbs in that pic. Low bf tho. I wouldn't say skinny bean pole, but wouldn't say jacked either. I think i do okay.

Khemix, you look phenomonal. any pics of the wheels?

fucking striations going in every direction! K to you

 

[Bruce]

Bruce I agree but how many people really are in the single digits when it comes to BF. Those are PROFESSIONALS and they do that for a living. They are paid to stay in that kind of shape. Go to a sporting event and take 500 fans and I will bet MAYBE 5-10 people will look good. The rest will be out of shape and majority of them would be obese. We are talking the general population here.

oh no doubt if you are 190 and 18% bf even 15% you aren't jacked i agree, you have a beach body or just look lean. but i only talk ELITE fitness here, meaning you are top notch at your weight. and i think 190 single digits is actually the best look you can have. i just had an argument with a fatty who thinks he is jacked(big surprise) that t.o is not jacked in his opinion and is just a skinny beanpole. now i know he is no bber but come on man, what happened to us. do you have to be a freak to be jacked. if t.o walked into any gym he would dwarf almost all in there, and if people are bigger than him or guys built like that and lean post pics, i'm sick of hearing it. i know you are jacked bow ive seen ya and youve seen my pics. but i refuse to keep this freak look lead people to believe tall lean guys with slabs of muscle are not jacked its absurd. t.o is 6 3 226-236 and looks phenomenal, go to www.tobands.com and look at him. if you don't think thats jacked i just don't see things like you. not bber but jacked. also lebron james is now 6 8 256 at 4% bf and people have the nerve to say he is skinny. fine he is not a bber either but he is jacked. flat out if you are 165 and single digit bf you are more jacked than 95% of the world i'm sorry thats how i see it. i know guys who have tiny legs and weigh about 160 and look like they are 200. its all bf and symmetry and how you hold muscle. jacked is such a loose term. i think people can be seen as either: fat, stocky, diesel yet not cut, lean and slightly muscular, or muscular. after that there is bber type builds and thats where it ends for me. if you have slabs of muscle you are jacked technically. and the most frustrating to me is these 220 pound guys who look diesel in a tee shirt but horrible with there shirt off. they walk around thinking they have a right to juice but smaller 180 pounders at single digit don't. they shoot down any build like ones ive mentioned that will get you laid anywhere anytime anyplace fact. i know it from experience. ive been 6 3 155-195 at single digi bf and every girl thinks i'm jacked, obviously more so now. and lets be honest who the fuck do you care about thinking you are jacked? hot girls or other guys? i care about hot girls though i am not single anymore. ive seen it all from guys weighin 155 lookin like tyson to guys who are 295 pounds and just don't look that good even at a decent low bf. all about genetics and muscle is fucking muscle. i will leave it at that. if a hotty and her friends think 190 is jacked then to me its jacked. most guys on these sites juice to say they do it, don't eat right, or train hard. most guys never post pics which i have and you have many times. most guys here are either stick figures or fat and use the BULKING CYCLE excuse to make up for their sloppiness. i always stay lean as shit and i'm always bulking. eat right train right and be real. don't hate congratulate, if a guy is jacked or considered jacked by others just deal with it. trying to prove it wrong is just jelous.

 

[BOWTECH]

oh no doubt if you are 190 and 18% bf even 15% you aren't jacked i agree, you have a beach body or just look lean. but i only talk ELITE fitness here, meaning you are top notch at your weight. and i think 190 single digits is actually the best look you can have. i just had an argument with a fatty who thinks he is jacked(big surprise) that t.o is not jacked in his opinion and is just a skinny beanpole. now i know he is no bber but come on man, what happened to us. do you have to be a freak to be jacked. if t.o walked into any gym he would dwarf almost all in there, and if people are bigger than him or guys built like that and lean post pics, i'm sick of hearing it. i know you are jacked bow ive seen ya and youve seen my pics. but i refuse to keep this freak look lead people to believe tall lean guys with slabs of muscle are not jacked its absurd. t.o is 6 3 226-236 and looks phenomenal, go to www.tobands.com and look at him. if you don't think thats jacked i just don't see things like you. not bber but jacked. also lebron james is now 6 8 256 at 4% bf and people have the nerve to say he is skinny. fine he is not a bber either but he is jacked. flat out if you are 165 and single digit bf you are more jacked than 95% of the world i'm sorry thats how i see it. i know guys who have tiny legs and weigh about 160 and look like they are 200. its all bf and symmetry and how you hold muscle. jacked is such a loose term. i think people can be seen as either: fat, stocky, diesel yet not cut, lean and slightly muscular, or muscular. after that there is bber type builds and thats where it ends for me. if you have slabs of muscle you are jacked technically. and the most frustrating to me is these 220 pound guys who look diesel in a tee shirt but horrible with there shirt off. they walk around thinking they have a right to juice but smaller 180 pounders at single digit don't. they shoot down any build like ones ive mentioned that will get you laid anywhere anytime anyplace fact. i know it from experience. ive been 6 3 155-195 at single digi bf and every girl thinks i'm jacked, obviously more so now. and lets be honest who the fuck do you care about thinking you are jacked? hot girls or other guys? i care about hot girls though i am not single anymore. ive seen it all from guys weighin 155 lookin like tyson to guys who are 295 pounds and just don't look that good even at a decent low bf. all about genetics and muscle is fucking muscle. i will leave it at that. if a hotty and her friends think 190 is jacked then to me its jacked. most guys on these sites juice to say they do it, don't eat right, or train hard. most guys never post pics which i have and you have many times. most guys here are either stick figures or fat and use the BULKING CYCLE excuse to make up for their sloppiness. i always stay lean as shit and i'm always bulking. eat right train right and be real. don't hate congratulate, if a guy is jacked or considered jacked by others just deal with it. trying to prove it wrong is just jelous.

Right on my friend! K