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3rd week in and weaker

markshark

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im on my 3rd week of test/deca and getting weaker. im just confused...ive been eating 7 meals a day roughly (high calorie, like 3,000 and up and upwards of 350 g protein (i weigh 170)) and am taking massive amounts of valium/lunesta/simplysleep/melatonin or whatever it takes to get between 6-8 hours of sleep each night. i never go out, never party and never drink, barely ever jack off and even skip classes because of meals/workouts/rest or whatever and everythings gone down. upright rows went down 3 reps today, biceps had to drop 10lbs, and even had to drop 15 lbs in bench a few days ago. i feel im doing everything right but what the fuck is happening to me!!!!!!!! i dont mean to rant and rave but i have nowhere else to turn but this board. has this ever happened to anyone? im running 450mg/test, 300mg/deca per week. i feel like im descending into hell or something. im so fuckin depressed i dont even leave my apartment other than to lift.
 
yeah i got quality vet for both test and deca and have used them before and theyve worked. both came packaged well, ichecked the ban numbers on the QV site and they have the holograms and everthing on them, so they are legit. i got dbols a while ago from the same source and they worked well.
 
Well, don't give up hope.. Those esters take 3-4 weeks before you notice anything.. Just get tons of sleep, eat right, keep the workouts short and intense and everything will fall in place.. If you've done it before, just relax.. Try taking the weekend off from the gym and just recoup...Hit it hard on Monday.. Remember you grow when you rest...
 
If you can get some dbol, throw that in there for four weeks. Then everything should be fine. Also you may want to consider upping the deca dose. Good luck Bro! Train hard
 
markshark said:
im on my 3rd week of test/deca and getting weaker. im just confused...ive been eating 7 meals a day roughly (high calorie, like 3,000 and up and upwards of 350 g protein (i weigh 170)) and am taking massive amounts of valium/lunesta/simplysleep/melatonin or whatever it takes to get between 6-8 hours of sleep each night. i never go out, never party and never drink, barely ever jack off and even skip classes because of meals/workouts/rest or whatever and everythings gone down. upright rows went down 3 reps today, biceps had to drop 10lbs, and even had to drop 15 lbs in bench a few days ago. i feel im doing everything right but what the fuck is happening to me!!!!!!!! i dont mean to rant and rave but i have nowhere else to turn but this board. has this ever happened to anyone? im running 450mg/test, 300mg/deca per week. i feel like im descending into hell or something. im so fuckin depressed i dont even leave my apartment other than to lift.


maybe your overtraining??
 
ALIN said:
maybe your overtraining??
From the above post that looks likely Bro I did it a few years ago and was dying from all the work I was putting in and no gains, I backed off a little and the came like magic then I boosted my training tempo
 
rpol said:
From the above post that looks likely Bro I did it a few years ago and was dying from all the work I was putting in and no gains, I backed off a little and the came like magic then I boosted my training tempo
I agree with the overtraining .Take the weekend off and start fresh on Mon.Your still early into the cycle to notice any real results yet,but I would wait and see how it goes after the rest.
 
IRONBULL05 said:
I agree with the overtraining .Take the weekend off and start fresh on Mon.Your still early into the cycle to notice any real results yet,but I would wait and see how it goes after the rest.
exactly what I was thinking when I read his post.
how manny days a week r u training bro.
 
Those long esters won't really kick in until week 4-5... And you are loosing strength as you are probably overtraining..

Get a life outside the gym.. Work hard while you are there but... Geez - you don't even jerk off or go out... You are thinking too hard about this...
 
Well I definitely wouldnt skip classes for workouts as college is much more expensive than any cycle lol. Don't stress it now but if by the 5th week you are still weak then its probably fake. You could be overtraining.
 
You might want to end this cycle now and think about seeing a phychiatrist. You sound really depressed, and the mood swings when you come off your cycle are only going to make it worse. Get your head right first, than start worring about your body. Take care of yourself bro.
 
i saw a psychiatrist for a while and all he did was prescribe me meds.

my training has been like this:
Monday: chest, abs
Tuesday: Shoulders, tris
Wednesday: Off
THursday: Legs, calves
Friday: Back, Bi's

Weekends: off

4 days a week is the max i train and i hit it hard for 45 min to an hour and 15 min maximum.

maybe it is psychological or something but thanks for the responses anyway. i think i should start getting a life outside the gym in that the last time i drank was probably at least a year ago and ive went nearly 3 months once without jacking off because i thought i was gonna lose strength but after a while my nuts turned like reddish blue and it hurt when i sat down so i had to jerk it. now i jerk off like 2-3 times a week max (even though id like to do it more). maybe i should quit reading flex.
 
first off, lay off valium, your gonna become dependant, and second, just chill dont overanalize the situtuation, this happened to me once during a cycle, i just felt like shit, didnt want to workout, was weak, and couldnt care less about bodybuilding... i just took some time off, worked out maybe 2-3times a week until i got motivated again, then i relized, i wasnt motivated, i hadnt trained w/ a partner in like 8mo, so i got a good one who could push me and it helped me get back into it, you might just be a little burnt out, relax a little dont stress so much about the diet, quit freaking out, and also, 2 things YOU NEED A GIRL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! and WE DONT NEED TO KNOW ABOUT YOU JERKIN IT.... thank you............ luck man
 
markshark said:
im on my 3rd week of test/deca and getting weaker. im just confused...ive been eating 7 meals a day roughly (high calorie, like 3,000 and up and upwards of 350 g protein (i weigh 170))


3000 calories A DAY and you call that "high calorie" I take in that many calories by the middle of the day :eek2:

Sounds to me like you arent eating enough to grow and that is possibly your problem :o
 
wow bro, did you ever think about all those drugs your taking, maybe those that you are taking for sleep and to calm you down are making you lethargic?. ive never taken any of those medications but i kno sometimes when i take medicines for a cold or someting or allergies, it makes me feel weird and not strong. just a thought i coul be way offf......

sounds like your just tooooo worried about lifting. go on a vaca for a couple days. go f*ck a hot girl idk do something that will get ur mind of ur girl and not think about lifting.


its is going to take most people a while to start to feel the effects from those aas. give it some time. take some prop. to kick start that made me feel sooooo strong in the gym and i felt it within 4-5 days
 
Its All Genetics said:
wow bro, did you ever think about all those drugs your taking, maybe those that you are taking for sleep and to calm you down are making you lethargic?. ive never taken any of those medications but i kno sometimes when i take medicines for a cold or someting or allergies, it makes me feel weird and not strong. just a thought i coul be way offf......

sounds like your just tooooo worried about lifting. go on a vaca for a couple days. go f*ck a hot girl idk do something that will get ur mind of ur girl and not think about lifting.


its is going to take most people a while to start to feel the effects from those aas. give it some time. take some prop. to kick start that made me feel sooooo strong in the gym and i felt it within 4-5 days

I also agree with laying off all the meds.Stop taking all that shit,lay off the whts for a while,then go at it again.
 
yeah, change your training routine a bit too. If getting stronger is what you want, I don't know of too many power lifters who trian chest on one day, and then hit their shoulders and tris on another??? If you're training is as intense as you say it is, you definately should consider putting a couple more days between chest and shoulders. I don't know about everyone else, but my shoulders get hit pretty hard on chest days indirectly. And like a few others said, give that gear a little more time to kick in. I'll bet by weeks 5-6, you'll be signing a diff song. Give us an update then Bro, good luck.
 
growthspurt said:
yeah, change your training routine a bit too. If getting stronger is what you want, I don't know of too many power lifters who trian chest on one day, and then hit their shoulders and tris on another??? If you're training is as intense as you say it is, you definately should consider putting a couple more days between chest and shoulders. I don't know about everyone else, but my shoulders get hit pretty hard on chest days indirectly. And like a few others said, give that gear a little more time to kick in. I'll bet by weeks 5-6, you'll be signing a diff song. Give us an update then Bro, good luck.
I agree you def need to split your workouts up better. The best for me has always been:
day 1:chest
day 2:back and abs
day 3: off
day 4: shoulders
day 5: legs
day 6: arms
day 7: off

I like to give arms their own day but I don't go too crazy with the number of sets. I have to have the days where my tris work split and my back and leg day as far apart as possible. Maybe give this a try for a few months and see if things change.
 
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