2nd cycle for a lean mass

[justcypio]

Hi guys,
Im planning my 2nd cycle and I need some advice. Did I planned it good? Or did I add good products?

1-7 week - Testosterone Propionate 100mg E2D
1-7 week - NPP 100mg E2D
8-14 week - Turinabol 30mg ED
9 week - HC 700iu E2D
5-27 week - Testosterone Enanthat 250mg E4D
5-25 week - Boldenone 400mg E4D
18 week - HCG 700iu E2D
27 week - HCG 10000iu 1000iu E2D

For PCT I add 1000iu of HCG, what about Clomid/Clomiphene?
I will also buy Symex, what else do I need?

 

[muskate]

I actually just posted a video discussing what to use for a second steroid cycle: https://www.elitefitness.com/forum/...eo-what-run-second-steroid-cycle-1486563.html

Your cycle is over kill for a second cycle. Its kind of liking using a nuclear bomb to kill a ant infestation. A 27 week cycle for a second a cycle is a terrible idea.

Watch the video I posted. This would be a good second cycle:

Weeks 1 - 12
Test e 500mg/week
EQ 300mg/week
aromasin 10mg EOD

Followed by the perfect PCT protocol -> http://www.evolutionary.org/the-perfect-post-cycle-therapy-pct/

 

[Lev Butlerov]

27 week? That is definitely way too much. You might experience some serious troubles trying to recover after such a cycle. All in all, you are over complicating your cycle big time, and there is no need for HCG.

@muskate has given you a much simpler cycle that will still give you great results, but it will be much easier to carry out, less confusing, and there will definitely be less side effects with it.

As a final suggestion, I would advice you to decide yourself on your goals first, and then plan a cycle in accordance with those goals.

 

[stevesmi]

27 weeks isn't a cycle. that is just staying on.. at the very least lets call it what it is.

add about 6 weeks to that cause of the long U ester. so you are staying on for a long time. it will take many months to recover from that, if at all. you should keep cycles at 12 weeks for best chance of recovery

 

[MasonicBodybuilder]

I would run test and EQ for 16 weeks and tbol for the first 6 weeks. Make sure your PCT is thorough though.

 

[justcypio]

So what about:
1. 1-16 - Testosteron Enanthat - 300mg E4D
2. 1-16 - Boldenone - 500mg E4D
3. 1-4 - Testosteron Propionat - 100mg E2D
4. 1-8 - NPP - 100mg E2D
5. 6-14 - Oxandrolon 30mg ED

 

[stevesmi]

So what about:
1. 1-16 - Testosteron Enanthat - 300mg E4D
2. 1-16 - Boldenone - 500mg E4D
3. 1-4 - Testosteron Propionat - 100mg E2D
4. 1-8 - NPP - 100mg E2D
5. 6-14 - Oxandrolon 30mg ED

I understand the reasoning behind kickstarting with short esters like that.. quite an interesting setup but very expensive.. make sure your gear is legit, most var out there is fake we all know that.

check out our sister site and find a legit source before you spend that kind of coin http://www.evolutionary.org/forums/source-talk/my-favorite-sources-part-ii-37624.html

 

[muskate]

So what about:
1. 1-16 - Testosteron Enanthat - 300mg E4D
2. 1-16 - Boldenone - 500mg E4D
3. 1-4 - Testosteron Propionat - 100mg E2D
4. 1-8 - NPP - 100mg E2D
5. 6-14 - Oxandrolon 30mg ED

Overall your cycle looks good but it doesn't contain any support supplements.

Here is a good video for you to watch on support supplements for the steroid user to stay side effect free while on cycle: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6OsJoeAXkFU

1. You need to add an AI to your cycle to keep estrogen in the low-normal range. Aromasin at 10mg EOD is a good dosage.
2. NPP is a nandrolone and will raise prolactin levels in the body. You need to add in an anti-prolactin drug like cabergoline to your cycle. 0.25mg EOD is a good dosage.
3. I would add in a good quality liver aid supplement when using the oral steroids like n2guard from n2bm.com

 

[MasonicBodybuilder]

I am very interested to see how this one goes with the mix of long and short esters. Will you be getting blood work done mid cycle? I would like to see how this mix effects different things.