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270lbs to 210lbs in 3 Months. How do I do it?

lwasiak

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Hello all, My name is Luke and I am 22 years old. I am tired of being 270lbs at 5'9 and plateauing at weight loss. My goal is to be 210lbs by the first or second week of March, I have read many threads and been suggested Winstrol. Any suggestions I NEED HELP BAD!!!!

I just began a solid diet and a workout routine, are there any alternative like Winstrol that I should take or is there something more powerful and maybe even safer.

Orginal weight was 295lbs went down to 270lbs and cant go below.
 
You're on the wrong track. Diet and exercise bro. Diet and exercise.

You can also try ZIP, Dermatherm and Lipoflame. They'll all help but it still goes back to rule # 1 -- diet and exercise.
 
stop eating like complete shit, grab a few layers of sweats, some good running shoes and hitt the track. Sorry if im being too general but it fucking works.
 
lwasiak said:
Hello all, My name is Luke and I am 22 years old. I am tired of being 270lbs at 5'9 and plateauing at weight loss. My goal is to be 210lbs by the first or second week of March, I have read many threads and been suggested Winstrol. Any suggestions I NEED HELP BAD!!!!

I just began a solid diet and a workout routine, are there any alternative like Winstrol that I should take or is there something more powerful and maybe even safer.

Orginal weight was 295lbs went down to 270lbs and cant go below.
I swear i just posted about crazy questions like this. WHO EVER TOLD YOU THAT TAKING "AS" WAS GOING TO HELP YOU LOOSE WEIGHT WAS CRAZY! You need a diet plan, not a steroid cycle Bro ! I'm to sick today to even explain this crazy shit....Get a diet book from Richard Simons, or atleast go to the diet forum here on EF !!
 
lwasiak said:
Hello all, My name is Luke and I am 22 years old. I am tired of being 270lbs at 5'9 and plateauing at weight loss. My goal is to be 210lbs by the first or second week of March, I have read many threads and been suggested Winstrol. Any suggestions I NEED HELP BAD!!!!

I just began a solid diet and a workout routine, are there any alternative like Winstrol that I should take or is there something more powerful and maybe even safer.

Orginal weight was 295lbs went down to 270lbs and cant go below.

Bro at 5'9 270lbs you should be no where near a weight loss plateau. The fact that your losses have slowed that point tells me that your diet is not even close to what it should be. I would bet that you are around 40% body fat. If you had your diet and exercise dialed in at all weight would be falling off of you. Like the man said earlier DIET & EXERCISE!!!

BTW - The last thing your heart needs is AAS or any other pharms that might increase your heart rate or bp. Once you are in decent cardiovascular shape and below 20%bf you can start considering those type of performance enhancers.
 
Everyone tells me diet and exercise and I have read many diet plans southbeach, atkins, health books, etc and alot of people suggested Winstrol and Tren. Now I dont know enough about steroids to make that decision on my own thats why im on the thread. But everyone says diet and exercise but I dont believe Diet and exercise will get me 210lbs by mid March of 2008. Am I wrong?

What would be a healthy calorie intake be on a weekly basis?
Should I be taking in WHEY Protein as also suggested?

I run 2 miles, and also 20 minutes of Stairmaster at a high level workout now. Also I work on each muscle group during the week spread each day bi, tri, chest, shoulders, back, legs, abs. All suggestions please.
 
there are ways but plan on losing a shyt load of muscle if u wanna lose that much that fast ..how old are u? if over 30 might wanna look into sum gh ..while fixing your diet to a low carb approch with healthy fat and shyt load of protein .. cardio 40-45 mins a day .. add sum supplements/stims also dependin on what u like ..lipoflame/eca/ are 2 of my favs i have used
 
alexl2 said:
dnp - dinitrophenol - - dinitrophenol - 's a possibility if you know what your doing, dangerous stuff tho.
deff works but i woundnt advise someone to stay on it long enough to lose 60 pounds lol .. also if he cant diet right ..how can u expect him to use dnp correct .. might wind up in a coffin
 
lwasiak said:
Everyone tells me diet and exercise and I have read many diet plans southbeach, atkins, health books, etc and alot of people suggested Winstrol and trenbolone. Now I dont know enough about steroids to make that decision on my own thats why im on the thread. But everyone says diet and exercise but I dont believe Diet and exercise will get me 210lbs by mid March of 2008. Am I wrong?

What would be a healthy calorie intake be on a weekly basis?
Should I be taking in WHEY Protein as also suggested?

I run 2 miles, and also 20 minutes of Stairmaster at a high level workout now. Also I work on each muscle group during the week spread each day bi, tri, chest, shoulders, back, legs, abs. All suggestions please.

You are correct... diet and exercise will likely not get you there by mid-March. However diet, exercise and anabolic androgenic steroids will likely not get you there either. It took you 22 years to get to 295lbs why should you expect to drop almost a third of it in 3 months? Until you look at this as a life-long commitment, an actual alteration in your lifestyle, rather than a quick fix diet you are wasting your time. Set small goals, and new goals once the old goals are reached. Be patient and stick with the routine.
 
stop eating :P

J/k

It's all about your diet dude....get a good low-calory, healthy diet, wth lots of veggies and stuff

Get some ECA or take some winstrol and throw in some prima

You should be good
 
lwasiak said:
Hello all, My name is Luke and I am 22 years old. I am tired of being 270lbs at 5'9 and plateauing at weight loss. My goal is to be 210lbs by the first or second week of March, I have read many threads and been suggested Winstrol. Any suggestions I NEED HELP BAD!!!!

I just began a solid diet and a workout routine, are there any alternative like Winstrol that I should take or is there something more powerful and maybe even safer.

Orginal weight was 295lbs went down to 270lbs and cant go below.
25 pounds is great, but the only reason you're not getting further is that you're not working out right or eating right or both.

What is your weekly workout regimen like? What is a typical day's diet like?

Don't mess around with your body chemistry. First of all, it's not something you should be screwing around with if you have no idea what you're doing, but (perhaps more importantly from your perspective) you will NOT get the results you're hoping for with the body fat you currently have, in fact if anything they will give you just the opposite and make you a LOT heavier.
 
there is an ebook that is available on this site. its called 'burn the fat feed the muscle' by tom venuto. i ordered it about 2 weeks ago and am about half way through it. it is one of the best fat loss books i have ever read. it gives you instructions from a-z and back. ive been at this since i was 14 and am now 46. i thought i knew it all about fat loss but after only reading half this book i knew nothing. losing fat is simple but it is not easy. on paper it is easy but there is alot of work involved. if you are seriously motivated and have the work ethic and disapline you WILL lose the body fat following this guys instructions, no doubt about it. but if your one of these people who reads something and decides to do some parts of the plan and skip the remaining parts because it is doesnt fit into your schedule or you dont want to look silly in front of your freinds or what he asks you to do just seems stupid then dont even bother.
 
lwasiak said:
Everyone tells me diet and exercise and I have read many diet plans southbeach, atkins, health books, etc and alot of people suggested Winstrol and trenbolone. Now I dont know enough about steroids to make that decision on my own thats why im on the thread. But everyone says diet and exercise but I dont believe Diet and exercise will get me 210lbs by mid March of 2008. Am I wrong?

What would be a healthy calorie intake be on a weekly basis?
Should I be taking in WHEY Protein as also suggested?

I run 2 miles, and also 20 minutes of Stairmaster at a high level workout now. Also I work on each muscle group during the week spread each day bi, tri, chest, shoulders, back, legs, abs. All suggestions please.


The chances of you taking steroids and losing weight is slim to none. If anything you'll gain more weight. There is no magic pill. Diet and exercise can get you there. I had to cut 21lbs in a week once for wrestling so its possible to lose a lot of weight even in a weeks time, and another thing that is an unreasonable goal for you. I'm guessing you want to cut weight for around March for spring break or something? Maybe you should've started dieting a year ago. Losing that much weight in 3 months isn't exactly healthy. 60lbs in three months for someone that doesn't sound like they've done actually dieting and training is a lot of weight to lose. Take an over the counter fat loss supplement and fix your diet and keep training. Thats all you can do. AS will not help you lose weight. And for the last time, I hate hearing people saying they have a good diet, if you didn't you wouldn't have to be asking what will help, you'd already be seeing results. Fix your diet.
 
lwasiak said:
Everyone tells me diet and exercise and I have read many diet plans southbeach, atkins, health books, etc and alot of people suggested Winstrol and trenbolone. Now I dont know enough about steroids to make that decision on my own thats why im on the thread. But everyone says diet and exercise but I dont believe Diet and exercise will get me 210lbs by mid March of 2008. Am I wrong?

What would be a healthy calorie intake be on a weekly basis?
Should I be taking in WHEY Protein as also suggested?

I run 2 miles, and also 20 minutes of Stairmaster at a high level workout now. Also I work on each muscle group during the week spread each day bi, tri, chest, shoulders, back, legs, abs. All suggestions please.

Dude, for one, taking anabolic steroids isn't going to help you lose weight.

Second, diets, in general, don't work. Permanant changes in eating habits work. How long did it take you to get to 270? Now, why the hell do you think you're going to reverse that in a fraction of the time? Things don't work that way.

Third, changes take time. Choose diet and exercise regimes that are well-documented. (Absolutely no diet fads -- no atkins, no insert-fancy-name-here diets. A simple macronutrient and caloric breakdown will suffice.) Keep up with these regimes on a daily basis. No excuses.

Fourth, change takes time. You must accept this. You are the sum of what you do every day.



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lwasiak said:
My goal is to be 210lbs by the first or second week of March

Also, this is an unrealistic goal unless you are a veteran competitive bodybuilder who has a decade of experience with bulking and cutting extremes.

You need to set more realistic goals that are attainable.



:cow:
 
Well thanks for all the help and advice. So one last question is what are your thoughts on taking THERMOREXIN? Also will taking Protein help?
 
samoth said:
Dude, for one, taking anabolic steroids isn't going to help you lose weight.

Second, diets, in general, don't work. Permanant changes in eating habits work. How long did it take you to get to 270? Now, why the hell do you think you're going to reverse that in a fraction of the time? Things don't work that way.

Third, changes take time. Choose diet and exercise regimes that are well-documented. (Absolutely no diet fads -- no atkins, no insert-fancy-name-here diets. A simple macronutrient and caloric breakdown will suffice.) Keep up with these regimes on a daily basis. No excuses.

Fourth, change takes time. You must accept this. You are the sum of what you do every day.



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hmm cant say i agree with this 100%.. another approaches will get him to hiz goal quicker.. but keep from gaining it all back .. he need to learn how to eat right and exercise .. i agree with that
 
lwasiak said:
Well thanks for all the help and advice. So one last question is what are your thoughts on taking THERMOREXIN? Also will taking Protein help?

I don't keep up with all these new supplements, so I honestly don't know what Thermorexin is. If you want to use some sort of metabolic enhancer or what have you, it certainly wouldn't hurt. However, no single drug will give you what you are seeking. Time and effort are what is required.

(Why do you think all these fad diets and drugs on late-night TV sell so well? Americans want something for nothing, and it's well documented that they will buy into such things even if it sounds too good to be true. However, if you truly want to change yourself for the better, you will need to buckle down and work for it.)

Unless you're heavily into bodybuilding, a proper diet will supply your body with enough protein. If you want a real-life example, one of my old profs worked with several of the Green Bay Packers guys, and they only took around 80-100 grams of protein a day during training season. So the posts here advocating 200-300 grams of protein a day are at best questionable, and certainly don't apply to yourself or "normal" people.



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hurricane187 said:
hmm cant say i agree with this 100%.. another approaches will get him to hiz goal quicker.. but keep from gaining it all back .. he need to learn how to eat right and exercise .. i agree with that

I'm talking about real change. I can start taking 5 grams of steroids a week and blow up to 260 pounds easily... however, such a weight won't be natural or sustainable. Similarly, I can OD on diuretics and laxatives and get down to 160 pounds, but again, such a weight won't be natural or sustainable.

This guy wants real change. He wants to get a weight that he won't have to stay on drugs in order to maintain. This sort of thing takes time. (This is something many of the get-big-quick steroid users don't understand.)



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You're gonna have to eat only about 1500 cals EVERY SINGLE DAY! Realistically, you're not gonna lose that much weight in that short of time unless you starve the shit out of yourself.
 
krishna said:
You're gonna have to eat only about 1500 cals EVERY SINGLE DAY! Realistically, you're not gonna lose that much weight in that short of time unless you starve the shit out of yourself.

Yep and if you starve yourself your just setting yourself up for more problems. When your starve yourself you body goes into a (what I like to call) "save yourself mode." Once you start starving yourself you body gets used to not getting the calories it needs on a daily basis and when it does that, when you do actually start eating your body tries to hold on to everything it gets. In turn just making it that much harder to lose weight. Oh and not to mention how bad it is in the first place to starve yourself.

You need to be lowering your daily caloric intake and spread it out throughout the day. Dont just eat 3 meals, eat 6-7 smaller meals. This will help to keep your metabolism going all day long.
 
dude to much weight to fast .. 3 months 25 pounds is pushing it but way more realistic .. i have done it ..if u go anywhere near 60 pounds ..tons of it will be muscle and u will look sick .. not good
 
bro no aas is Gona make you lose 60lbs in such a short time safely. If your that overweight you only need to focus on 2 things, cardio and DIET! But if your Gona take something no matter how much good advice your given, things that could help would be. Winstrol,eq,anavar,t3,clenbuterol. But it would be a better idea to lose 20 or 30 first before using them bro.
 
musclemom said:
25 pounds is great, but the only reason you're not getting further is that you're not working out right or eating right or both.

What is your weekly workout regimen like? What is a typical day's diet like?

Don't mess around with your body chemistry. First of all, it's not something you should be screwing around with if you have no idea what you're doing, but (perhaps more importantly from your perspective) you will NOT get the results you're hoping for with the body fat you currently have, in fact if anything they will give you just the opposite and make you a LOT heavier.

the first person in this thread to ask this.. k to you MM..

if we knew this we could start helping him more
 
gross! don't lose that fast. trust me it will suck.


how bout lose 20 pounds in 3 months

then 17.5 pounds in 3 months

then 15 pounds in 3 months

then 12.5 pounds in 3 months

in a year you weigh 205.

nothing beats realism
 
10001110101 said:
gross! don't lose that fast. trust me it will suck.


how bout lose 20 pounds in 3 months

then 17.5 pounds in 3 months

then 15 pounds in 3 months

then 12.5 pounds in 3 months

in a year you weigh 205.

nothing beats realism


This is a much better option. Also if you lost 60lbs in 3 months you wouldn't look better. You would have tons of sagging skin and trust me from watching doctor 90210 that looks gross. So if you don't diet and lose the weight the right way you are going to have to have surgery anyways.
 
I don't believe your are doing 2 miles and hi-intensity stair master dude. SOrry. I DO IT...and it kicks my ass...and with my PROPER DIET...making me keep muscle and loose bodyfat.

You are not fat, my man. YOU are OBESE. This is a serious medical condition.... I would think you need serious blood work done, and a NUTRITIONIST to write you a diet you can "stay alive" with.... You need to WALK.... you don't need a personal trainer, you need a PHYSICAL THERAPIST to teach you how to move again.... and as you start loosing weight, you'll start moving "smarter", "faster" and more efficiently. Loosing as much weight as you want will F'n kill you.

Steriods is not the answer...a QUALIFIED program is your best bet...certainly, there are bro's on here that could write you a diet.... but when you PAY somebody for it... it makes it different. WHen a DOC looks at your blood glucose levels, and HDL/LDL's and says...YOU DOn'T EAT BETTER..>YOU WILL DIE.... this is what you need.

Seriously. Not hammering you here...I'd get professional help..... when you start getting better, hit up these good bro's for some hi-intensity training plans, (once you know your heart can take it). And you can start eating and training like an athlete.... until then...

M
 
YES ^^^ What 2raptors said. Absolutely. You will need help here if you are serious.

I turned my life around with the help of a nutritionist and a personal trainer. I went from 265 to 210, but it didn't happen overnight. (Now, I'm back up to 235, but it's the kind of weight I wanted. :) )

But you have to be serious. I had several failed half-assed attempts before I was successful. But now my life has changed. I can honestly say that this will be one of the hardest things you will ever do.
 
you need 17-1800 cals a day and a ton of cardio on an empty stomach. When It's cutting time for me, which is right now, this is what i do

up at 5:00am, take two scoops of creatine with energy ingredients(ie caffeine), 50mg of ephedrine, and 6 km of jogging...every morning, i can drop 4-5 pounds a week doing that without losing muscle, but it's all about the diet. lots of protein and fats, no carbs 4 hours before bed, no carbs and fats together and only carbs and protein after morning cardio. now i'm not saying you have to be up at 5:00am, but set a routine and stick to it. It sounds like you're young enough to be in highschool, so get up at 7:00am do your cardio and be back home by 8.
 
did not realise you were %40 bodyfat...no more pop, pizza, ice cream whatever and all solid grains, fruits, vegetables and lean meats....go see a doc and get bloodwork done, basicly a full medical checkup...and go see a nutitionist, and MOST definitely no winstrol, the last thing yhou need is your lipids fucked up more then they already are...that's a stroke or heart attack waiting to happen.
 
searay said:
there is an ebook that is available on this site. its called 'burn the fat feed the muscle' by tom venuto. i ordered it about 2 weeks ago and am about half way through it. it is one of the best fat loss books i have ever read. it gives you instructions from a-z and back. ive been at this since i was 14 and am now 46. i thought i knew it all about fat loss but after only reading half this book i knew nothing. losing fat is simple but it is not easy. on paper it is easy but there is alot of work involved. if you are seriously motivated and have the work ethic and disapline you WILL lose the body fat following this guys instructions, no doubt about it. but if your one of these people who reads something and decides to do some parts of the plan and skip the remaining parts because it is doesnt fit into your schedule or you dont want to look silly in front of your freinds or what he asks you to do just seems stupid then dont even bother.
+1 for tom venuto's ebook.

and i repeat what the other good bros and broettes have already said - steroids aren't going to get you from 270 to 210 by march EVEN IF you knew what you were doing - which you don't.
 
The 40% bf was a guess on my part. Giving him the benefit of the doubt and saying he has a large bone structure the standard weight charts say at 5'9 he should weigh no more than 176lbs (for anyone who weight trains those charts are way off but obviously he has very little weight training experience). That being said if would reach 176lbs and we'll give him the benefit of the doubt again and say he drops below 10%bf. At 9%bf and 176lbs he would have an LBM of 160lbs. So if he has an lbm of 160lbs and he now weighs 270lbs he is likely around 40%bf.
 
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