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Research Chemical SciencesUGFREAKeudomestic
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1st cycle, Need advice

Thank you, I know I am young, but extremely disciplined. And like I stated that you noted, im not trying to get huge, trying to keep a lean physique and add on another 20 pounds of muscle. My diet is on point and im in the gym for at least 2 hours daily 5 days a week not including MMA training. I'll post a pic when I get off work.

Its not about being disciplined though bro... Its about being wise in regards to your body and running a cycle at your age, especially given your current weight is FAR from wise or optimal... I want you to understand your making a very poor choice and probably inhibiting future gains... You are being impatient and not knowing or understanding exactly what your getting into... You need to think long term bro... Your going to do what you want but i assure you that you are making a very poor decision if you decide to run a cycle
 
They are saying that based on your current height, weight, and body fat percentage.. that you are too skinny without much muscle. But, not every persons goal is to be big and huge and what not.. so their idea of a base may not be the same as another persons. I would agree that based on your current stats that you are a tad bit on the skinny side and there is room for more natural growth.

Post a pic of your physique.

Your first cycle layout looks pretty well. I have a question though about the test mix. Is it dosed at 500 mg per ml? If so, I would only pin .5 cc twice per week.. 1000 mg a test a week for a first cycle is too much. Maybe also think about throwing in an oral like d-bol or t-bol to kick start, that or ending with an oral like winstrol or anavar.

I run HCGenerate throughout an entire cycle, starting at day 1. Then do an HCG blast a few weeks prior to PCT, and suggest you and anyone else who is running a cycle to do so else well. You should start HCGenerate when you feel testicular atrophy starting.. and run it up until the start of PCT. I would say run it from weeks 5-12.. which is 2 bottles. Also think about some sort of cycle assist like N2Guard.

As far as your PCT, clomid and forma is an excellent base, doesn't get much better than that. I would keep the clomid dose at 25 mg a day and run it the entire time at that dose. Then forma at 10 pumps per day, like you stated. It would also be beneficial to throwing a natural tes t booster or 2 in there. I personally use the Unleashed/Post Cycle combo from needtobuildmuscle but, there are a lot of options out there. Just make sure that is a good quality test booster.. not just an over hyped, over price gnc product. D-AA is also a great option for raising natural test levels.

I think your goal is realistic, but remember for the type of body recompilation you want, your training and diet will have to be spot on. The test will be a great benefit at helping this.. but it all starts in the weight room and kitchen.

Its dosed at 250mg of cypionate and 250mg of enanthate per Ml so youre correct. Typo on my end
I will post a pic when im off work. As far as throwing something else in the mix I have a 10ml vial of test propionate dosed at 100mg/cc laying around. I dont feel the need for anavar or winnys as im already naturally lean, but I was thinking of running the propionate at 1cc EOD for weeks 7-10 to shed off some water weight. What do you think? Ill definitley have to include the Unleashed/Post Cycle.

So from all the info I gathered this is what im currently looking at...


Week 1-10 Test 500 .5cc M/.5cc TH
Week 1-10 N2 Guard 6 daily
Week 1-10 Aromasin 12.5mg EOD
Week 5-12 HCG 5 daily
Week 12-16 Forma-Stanzol 10 pumps daily
Week 12-16 Clomid 25/25/12.5/12.5
Week 12-16 Unleashed/Post Cycle

Should I put the Propionate to use or just hold off on it?
Is the PCT/ Cycle support an overkill or fine the way it is?
 
The cycle is set up correctly in my opinion. There is no such thing as overkill when it comes to support and pct. You want to make sure to cover every base possible.

I would just hold off on the prop. Since you are running an AI, you should not have too much problem with water.
 
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