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JKurz1

JKurz1

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Anyone ever try anything close to the 10 of 10 with power movements for a day?

like 10 sets 10 reps.......

Hang clean
Deads
Bench

I benched yesterday, so that might be a problem........squats on Sunday but I could prob do them light today

or high pulls

deads
squats
hang clean
 
10 reps on a power clean is a train wreck and also idiotic.

On a deadlift, it is CNS burnout on a silver platter.

On squats, bench presses, rows, it's German Volume training.

Stick to what you were doing, consistency is more important, the flavor of the week approach leads to zero gains.
 
so if you wanted to incorporate a power lifting day using hang cleans, bench, deads, push press, etc what would be a good mass routine?

5 sets of 6? at maybe 75% of 1 rep max?
 
Its in place of a second delt day.....I think my delts are getting fried........and am taking the weekend off.....
 
By changing your routine (or diet) every week you have no way to measure progress. That's all it's about is getting one more rep than you did last time with the same weight or 5 pounds more added to the bar for the same amount of reps. The workout itself is not making you bigger. It's the strength increases that happen over time.
 
alex2678 said:
By changing your routine (or diet) every week you have no way to measure progress. That's all it's about is getting one more rep than you did last time with the same weight or 5 pounds more added to the bar for the same amount of reps. The workout itself is not making you bigger. It's the strength increases that happen over time.
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Exactly, the workout isn't magic. it is simply a means to an end. Days/weights/sets/reps are your tools, your variables, a guage so to speak.

Jeff, your delts are fried from that ridiculous workout that I said was ridiculous a week ago and that it was un-doable for a week and a half regardless if you take 250mg of test a week or 2 grams.

Right now, brother, if you're wedded to the bodypart splits, do something like a bench day, an overhead day, a squat day, and a deadlift day.....take 3 full days off a week.....this is all about progress, not satisfying some neurotic need to exercise.

You can't stick in a 'power day' when you're fried from doing lat pulldowns with 75 different attachments the day before.

Have a bench day that looks something like this...flat bench (5x5) incline d-bells (4x12-15), weighted dips (3x8), skullcrushers (3x12).....the 5's will make you strong and give you enough growth in my opinion, the d-bell work will provide all the metabolic work you need, weighted dips are just good, and skulls will satisfy the neurotic need to isolate.

If you like squating multiple times a week and benching multiple times a week, you need to be systematic and progress driven. It isn't about blasting yourself into oblivion and more is better..... it's about fostering long-term progress. It isn't about a random list of bodyparts and exercises, it's all progress and a means to an end.

I'll call you on this...how much do you weigh? If you're not over 175 first thing in the AM butt naked, then up the cals and no more "5000 cals are for fatties, I can grow on 2500".....you're growing, your calorie needs increase every pound you gain....if you hurry up and get over 200, I'll hang tight and I will bulk to 255 with you...or 245 or whatever you want, hell, I'd go to 265 to make it fun, lol
 
speed bench is for shirted benchers, and even they are getting away from it....slinging around 135 won't suit your needs.

all else looks good, do deadlifts last or you won't be able to finish.
 
BiggT said:
speed bench is for shirted benchers, and even they are getting away from it....slinging around 135 won't suit your needs.

all else looks good, do deadlifts last or you won't be able to finish.
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what would u replace bro?
 
JKurz1 said:
what would u replace bro?
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He was saying that benching 135 for reps really isnt going to do anything for you. Just do about 15lbs under your max weight for any given rep amount, then the week after, bump it up 5lbs, and keep doing this until you stall.

This time, don't change to a different rep scheme for at least 9 weeks.
 
JKurz1 said:
what would u replace bro?
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dude if I was you, honestly, just keep it simple with the basic compound movements, and get better at them. Just the basic deads, flat bench, press, squats, and cleans or rows. depending on your conditioning, you can vary from 3-5 sets for about 4 reps, 5 reps, 6 reps, whatever, just pick a set/rep scheme around there and keep it. if you wanna do some pullups or throw in a couple iso's, go ahead, just keep your focus on your compound lifts.

I'm doing a basic 3x5 program and I'm increasing every week. The increases alone give me motivation to keep pushing and getting better, and over time everything will grow. Coupled with a boost of cals than you're intaking also.
 
more mass, less of a strength rotuine other madcow and riptoe are solid programs....no need to reply anymore......I got it...thanks BigT I'll buzz ya later....
 
OK . . .I don't get it. . .Is it that hard to comprehend. Football players are BIG, fast and powerful . . .and they don't do anything as stupid as 10x10. I'm sure if you ask an O'Lineman what he does to get stronger he won't say anything close to a 10x10. Why is it that people can not realize that big compound excersices get you big and strong.

a. Stop reading the BBing mags, they are fucking with your mind.
b. Actually listen to the people on this site (trust me they help big time).
c. EAT SOMETHING - For christ sake!! Just eat and you'll blow up to 200lb in no time.
 
Jkurz1 is fucking troll or the most neurotic online personality I've ever seen.

I've been around this board here and there for a couple of years and nothing you say to him will get through. I have read his claims in the past as having been like 230lbs with good definition and repping 300 on the bench to what you see him posting now.

Give it up...
 
I am convinced that this fuckin idiot is sitting back laughing at evryone that replies to his annoying and ignorant posts...i swear he does this shit on purpose and just loves to see everyone comment...if not then he needs to quadruple his god damn meds!...what a fuckin whacko.
 
I don't understand why people even reply to his posts anymore...just let him post, and let it float down the pages.
 
*note was suppose to be delt day as I train delts 2x a week typically, but felt like they were fried and wanted to incorpate a good mass shock*

DEADLIFTS
225X6X5 - *NICE SMOOTH FROM FLOOR SLOW PACE, FEEL ENTIRE MOVEMENT, FIRST TIME NOT USING ANY STRAPS, AMAZING HOW MUCH THEY HELP NOT JUST THE GRIP BUT ACTUAL LIFT*

BENCH
135X8X3 *NICE SMOOTHER 5 SECONDS DOWN, EXPLODE UP* 145X8X2

SEATED BNP
95X6X5 - SMOOTH AGAIN, 5 SECONDS DOWN EXPLODE UP

HANG CLEANS *had to use straps, really felt the pain in my left foreawrm and bis.......weight felt light, but pain was rough to get through**
95x6x5

STRAIGH BAR ROWS
135X8X3 - *SMOOTH, ALMOST PENDLY ROW, LITTLE HIGHER THAN 90 DEGREES, NICE SMOOTH CONTRACTION*

ABS WORK
STRETCHING

** GREAT SESSION.....I'd love to somehow incorporate a routine based around these lifts** today is arms tomorrow is legs.......
 
JKurz1 said:
*note was suppose to be delt day as I train delts 2x a week typically, but felt like they were fried and wanted to incorpate a good mass shock*
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A one-day mass shock is a terrific idea.

** GREAT SESSION.....I'd love to somehow incorporate a routine based around these lifts**
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I wonder if anyone's ever made a routine using those lifts???
 
Come on bro, you don't ''shock'' mass on your body, you gradually build it by pounding away at big lifts progressively over weeks and months and years.
 
advice on a routine doesn't seem like the issue at all. quieting the chatter of those neurotic demons inside you...so you aren't confused and filled with blood-borne doubts throughout each and every day...that might just be the issue. if there's an instinct or reflex inside of you which says you aren't doing enough, or aren't doing the right thing...strangle it without mercy, chop it up, and then set it on fire. it has led you down the path of ruination. instead, surrender yourself and put yourself in the hands of someone you might trust. some of the people here will give you good advice. do not trust yourself yet. do not think. take the advice from a solid source (perhaps someone like biggt, or a trainer in your offline life) and run with it.

i'm talking to a brick wall, aren't i. sweet.
 
I don't think you need all that, and if you are doing all that volume you had better be taking a lot of steroids. I have tried it and quickly found it was not at all realistic since I wasn't on drugs. Not sure if there'd be abenefit if you were using a lot of gear though...but I think you could def come up with a smarter lifting routine.
 
it's not easy. if you're training hard, you'll never do all 10 on all 10 sets. 10 sets of 5 would be more productive.
 
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