1-Test - Anabolic/Androgenic?

[wardog]

This type of schedule does make some sense actually. In theory it would avoid pronounced atrophy, and might even eliminate the need for recovery drugs altogether. I tend to think a month would be pushing it though, and might opt for 3 weeks on, 2 off or something myself. Maybe even the BT 2 on 2 off (did I just say that).

I would find it hard to start and stop like that myself though, and am more likey just to run the cycle and deal with atrophy later. But you certainly raise a good point.

- Bill

Lets take it one step further Bill. How effective would it be to run say 3-4 weeks on, then use clomid or nolva (I know you prefer nolva) for 3-4 weeks, then cycle again 3-4 weeks, finishing with 3-4 weeks clomid/nolva? I would think that if you have not supressed testicle size a great deal, nat T levels should come back quickly, and you may even end up with higher than baseline for perhaps the last week of therapy during each "therapy" cycle...thereby your not looking to just restore nat T, but actually increase it slightly higher than baseline during the last part of therapy.

Just a thought..keeping cycles high dosages, short time periods, then using clomid/nolva to not only speed recovery, but raise baseline for a limited period..any benifits?? Is it possible..or am I way off?

 

[wardog]

And just for some comic relief around here before bloodpressures really begin to boil in this debate, on the topic of anciliaries, I show you a quote from the latest T-mag:

"…it is common for men to develop breasts when they stop using steroids."

It's a possibility, but it's more likely to occur while they're using steroids. Of course, that only happens if they're complete morons and don't concurrently take an anti-estrogen like Arimidex, Teslac, Clomid, or an herbal formula like "M."


So guys, what about "M" for post-cycle recovery?

 

[riskybizz007]

Any thoughts on my test enathate and 1AD/1Test cycle? When should I use the 1AD/1TEst, beginning, end, or throughout?
thanks in advance

 

[Bill Llewellyn]

Lets take it one step further Bill. How effective would it be to run say 3-4 weeks on, then use clomid or nolva (I know you prefer nolva) for 3-4 weeks, then cycle again 3-4 weeks, finishing with 3-4 weeks clomid/nolva? I would think that if you have not supressed testicle size a great deal, nat T levels should come back quickly, and you may even end up with higher than baseline for perhaps the last week of therapy during each "therapy" cycle...thereby your not looking to just restore nat T, but actually increase it slightly higher than baseline during the last part of therapy.

Just a thought..keeping cycles high dosages, short time periods, then using clomid/nolva to not only speed recovery, but raise baseline for a limited period..any benifits?? Is it possible..or am I way off?

I'm not sure of higher levels, but I see where you are going. Honestly we could theorize a lot about short cycles, but without blood work we really don't know if they even do work to avoid suppression.

Has anyone actually had hormones tested while on this type of routine?

- Bill