Hematocrit and haemoglobin advice for cycle.

[Gymjunky96]

Hey lads thought I’d ask some more experienced individuals on this topic for advice or personal experience. I have run NPP at 100, 150 and 210mg weekly. I had a 3 day injection protocol of M,W,F I have maintained my cardio, hydration and 40mg of telm. I experienced awesome strength gains but my hemoglobin and hematocrit would spike like crazy which has forced me 3 times now to cut my cycle early and left me stumped as my first two cycles of test, mast and Var never saw those numbers even come close to the same numbers and that’s after 4-5 months on 600 test with no telm. However only after 12 weeks with NPP in the mix hemo and hemato would jump crazy. I also experience intense bloating on the compound so I’m assuming I might be hyper sensitive to the compound or Nor 19 in general? I have used multiple different vendors NPP aswell. I thought about experimenting with Decca instead but again it’s still nandrolone but the climb might be slower but obviously the clearance is the real worry. In my last 210 NPP cycle I ran 80mg of telm and still climbed insanely fast. So I’m lost for what “mass building” compound to run as EQ is a huge favourite for that but again I’ll face the same issue. I thinking about amping a microdose of tren E say 10-15mg daily and monitoring the bloodwork every 4-6 weeks to assess the increase. So apart from those compounds I’m really just left with test, mast, var and GH realistically. Any suggestions or advice would be greatly appreciated.

Cheers in advance,
Gymjunky96

 

[Ateam2026]

Hey lads thought I’d ask some more experienced individuals on this topic for advice or personal experience. I have run NPP at 100, 150 and 210mg weekly. I had a 3 day injection protocol of M,W,F I have maintained my cardio, hydration and 40mg of telm. I experienced awesome strength gains but my hemoglobin and hematocrit would spike like crazy which has forced me 3 times now to cut my cycle early and left me stumped as my first two cycles of test, mast and Var never saw those numbers even come close to the same numbers and that’s after 4-5 months on 600 test with no telm. However only after 12 weeks with NPP in the mix hemo and hemato would jump crazy. I also experience intense bloating on the compound so I’m assuming I might be hyper sensitive to the compound or Nor 19 in general? I have used multiple different vendors NPP aswell. I thought about experimenting with Decca instead but again it’s still nandrolone but the climb might be slower but obviously the clearance is the real worry. In my last 210 NPP cycle I ran 80mg of telm and still climbed insanely fast. So I’m lost for what “mass building” compound to run as EQ is a huge favourite for that but again I’ll face the same issue. I thinking about amping a microdose of tren E say 10-15mg daily and monitoring the bloodwork every 4-6 weeks to assess the increase. So apart from those compounds I’m really just left with test, mast, var and GH realistically. Any suggestions or advice would be greatly appreciated.

Cheers in advance,
Gymjunky96

Well, you didn't give us much information like, how high does your HCT get and what about your hemoglobin? RDW. Etc..

 

[Ateam2026]

a lot of times E2 gets elevated(19 nors do convert to estrogen ) and then right behind that prolactin goes, so unless you monitor your blood work on a regular basis, it's hard telling not knowing

 

[UnclePoon]

Hey lads thought I’d ask some more experienced individuals on this topic for advice or personal experience. I have run NPP at 100, 150 and 210mg weekly. I had a 3 day injection protocol of M,W,F I have maintained my cardio, hydration and 40mg of telm. I experienced awesome strength gains but my hemoglobin and hematocrit would spike like crazy which has forced me 3 times now to cut my cycle early and left me stumped as my first two cycles of test, mast and Var never saw those numbers even come close to the same numbers and that’s after 4-5 months on 600 test with no telm. However only after 12 weeks with NPP in the mix hemo and hemato would jump crazy. I also experience intense bloating on the compound so I’m assuming I might be hyper sensitive to the compound or Nor 19 in general? I have used multiple different vendors NPP aswell. I thought about experimenting with Decca instead but again it’s still nandrolone but the climb might be slower but obviously the clearance is the real worry. In my last 210 NPP cycle I ran 80mg of telm and still climbed insanely fast. So I’m lost for what “mass building” compound to run as EQ is a huge favourite for that but again I’ll face the same issue. I thinking about amping a microdose of tren E say 10-15mg daily and monitoring the bloodwork every 4-6 weeks to assess the increase. So apart from those compounds I’m really just left with test, mast, var and GH realistically. Any suggestions or advice would be greatly appreciated.

Cheers in advance,
Gymjunky96

give is the blood work and time line of when you injected what amount etc.

 

[Gymjunky96]

Sorry lads here you go. This is after 10 weeks. Dosages are as follows.
Test e 600
Mast e 300
Npp 210

 

[Gymjunky96]

 

[UnclePoon]

What were your levels before?

Usually to give context you would give us the full picture brother.
Dates
and injection dosages between - literally everything you know - give us that information and someone might be able to help.

Posting up numbers and a vague story doesn't help anyone brother

 

[Gymjunky96]

Before the cycle starts initial
hemoglobin was 160
Hematocrit was .45

 

[Gymjunky96]

As mentioned in the original post
Dosages were broken down into M,W,F.
Test was 600, mast 300 and NPP 210 (broken down into third of each inj)
The starting date was Approx Dec 7.
The bloods above were done Feb 18th.

 

[Gymjunky96]

What were your levels before?

Usually to give context you would give us the full picture brother.
Dates
and injection dosages between - literally everything you know - give us that information and someone might be able to help.

Posting up numbers and a vague story doesn't help anyone brother

Sorry brother that should be about everything.

 

[Gymjunky96]

RBC was 5.1

 

[the_alcatraz]

Hey lads thought I’d ask some more experienced individuals on this topic for advice or personal experience. I have run NPP at 100, 150 and 210mg weekly. I had a 3 day injection protocol of M,W,F I have maintained my cardio, hydration and 40mg of telm. I experienced awesome strength gains but my hemoglobin and hematocrit would spike like crazy which has forced me 3 times now to cut my cycle early and left me stumped as my first two cycles of test, mast and Var never saw those numbers even come close to the same numbers and that’s after 4-5 months on 600 test with no telm. However only after 12 weeks with NPP in the mix hemo and hemato would jump crazy. I also experience intense bloating on the compound so I’m assuming I might be hyper sensitive to the compound or Nor 19 in general? I have used multiple different vendors NPP aswell. I thought about experimenting with Decca instead but again it’s still nandrolone but the climb might be slower but obviously the clearance is the real worry. In my last 210 NPP cycle I ran 80mg of telm and still climbed insanely fast. So I’m lost for what “mass building” compound to run as EQ is a huge favourite for that but again I’ll face the same issue. I thinking about amping a microdose of tren E say 10-15mg daily and monitoring the bloodwork every 4-6 weeks to assess the increase. So apart from those compounds I’m really just left with test, mast, var and GH realistically. Any suggestions or advice would be greatly appreciated.

Cheers in advance,
Gymjunky96

you should post up your log legend
how we going to help you just for 1 post?

@Grumpy1 @abolone @koba @gar71 @BSS @Scuffer @Oths @ChewedSleek

 

[Gymjunky96]

I’ve just recently done up a lot which I’m more than happy to post up right now! I’ll be documenting the next cycle closely with Nan removed!

 

[Gymjunky96]

you should post up your log legend
how we going to help you just for 1 post?

@Grumpy1 @abolone @koba @gar71 @BSS @Scuffer @Oths @ChewedSleek

Cheers for the request to be more in depth, I’ll make sure to log everything with more detail, just posted up my first log will add more in the coming weeks!

 

[ChewedSleek]

With more detail in a log, we can help!

 

[Grumpy1]

100% agree regarding log
But to add i definitely wouldn't be trying deca if your having issues with npp as its a much longer ester you will find the sides will be around a lot longer
There could be many reasons why this is happening or you may find that npp deca just doesn't agree with you but further info required

 

[Gymjunky96]

100% agree regarding log
But to add i definitely wouldn't be trying deca if your having issues with npp as its a much longer ester you will find the sides will be around a lot longer
There could be many reasons why this is happening or you may find that npp deca just doesn't agree with you but further info required

Cheers brother! I fully agree I’m betting that’s the reason myself I’m likely just hyper sensitive to it. I’ve uploaded my first log on my profile and will be adding to it weekly alongside some new bloodwork soon to capture my current baseline to have a good trail of data and track all variables!