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From soft to savage.. TRT w/some "help".... LOG

jsmith32

Member
Male
6'
205-210#
41 pushing 42 quickly

Back ground.....Been fairly active my entire life (sports, weights, physical jobs), but some personal set backs and injuries made me soft. Got married in 2008 and got HEAVY! Had a couple of shoulder surgeries which didnt help the already heavy body I had. I lost weight the most unhealthy way possible, "operation starvation" . My goal was to burn off more calories than I consumed for the day. It helped as I lost a ton of weight, went from like 240# to around 180# but lost any and all muscle I had and still had the beer belly. When I turned 40 I wanted to change things around and do more for me. I went to the DR with a load of issues, which most 99% turned out to be low T. I was below 200 with fasting blood draw before 10a (only way insurance would cover it), twice. So Dr started on compounded cream for several months with no change. Numbers did not move. Switched to injections, 200mg/ml once per week. However, doing my own research I started injecting 100mg/ml twice per week, either every M-Tu or Th-F. Numbers were good and moved up to the 700-800 range and felt great! However, after about a year I started feeling like garbage again. Again, after some reading and talking with others, it was suggested that I try lowering dose a bit and injecting every 3rd day, no matter the days. So, if I started Monday the 1st, I was going to inject again on Thursday the 4th, Sunday the 7th, etc. I was dosing at 90mg/ml every 3 days. Numbers went up again above 1000. Was feeling like a rock star again. But here we are today, feeling like garbage again about a year later. So again, I dropped the dose to 80mg/ml every 3 days. Currently waiting on current lab results. Not only looking to be myself again, but my daughter is a teenager now, so I need to look mean as fuck to scare these little teen boys away! :cool:

TRT 80mg/ml every 3 days.
Tadalafil 5mg - daily
Fish oil 833mg - daily
Magnesium Glycinate 500mg- daily
Vitamin D3 K2 - 1000iu - daily

Rad140 20mg currently en route

Trying to get around 150-200G Protein per day

Training 2 days per week currently due to schedule at home with power rack, dumb bells, bar bell, and some cables. Also walk about 10k steps 5 days a week or so. I work a desk job, so a lot of sitting throughout the day, but try to walk on my breaks and lunch. I was walking stairs for my 15 minute breaks getting an average of 55 flights of stairs a day, but knee pain started in.

I was doing the same workout every Monday and Thursday, but started to get some injuries and pain in shoulders and knees so decided to change it up a bit.

Monday - A day -
Flat bench
Cable Fly
Shoulder side lateral raises
Shoulder Military press
Incline DB curl
Tri Rope extensions
Single leg platform squats
shrugs
Abs

Thursday - B day -
Incline Bench
Cable Fly
Face pulls
Cable Rows
Rear delt raises
Different variation of curls
Overhead tri extensions
RDLs
Shrugs
Abs

Shoulder injuries and knee injuries prevent me from doing a ton of pushing and squatting. I was doing the "BRO" split for the longest time and I was burning my self out and not growing. I find that working out twice a week is helping me recover better. I am probably the strongest I have ever been and close to best shape since high school/college.

Diet
I am a creature of habit.. I dont really like change, so I eat basically the same thing everyday Monday - Friday for breakfast and lunch. I will eat moderation depending on what my wife makes for dinner. I try to drink up to a gallon of water per day. I dont drink soda or energy drinks, just a couple cups of coffee in the AM. I do drink alcohol on weekends and maybe a beer if we go out to dinner on weekends.

Breakfast - Greek yogurt (either 100g or a small container), 1/4 cup 2% milk, scoop protein powder 25g P, 1/4 cup oats - EVERY Monday - Friday
Snack - Protein shake 25g P
Lunch - today 100-150g Venison steak, 100g rice - Meal plan/prep usually so I eat the same things Monday - Friday
Snack - Protein Shake 25g P
Dinner - TBD usually will just eat with the family, what ever my wife cooks.

Again I have some Rad140 20mg coming. Plan on taking 20mg in the AM.
I would love to sample/play with some peptides or other PEDS to help with some of the injuries and pains, but funds are limited.

PICS and current Labs will be coming shortly.
 
Male
6'
205-210#
41 pushing 42 quickly

Back ground.....Been fairly active my entire life (sports, weights, physical jobs), but some personal set backs and injuries made me soft. Got married in 2008 and got HEAVY! Had a couple of shoulder surgeries which didnt help the already heavy body I had. I lost weight the most unhealthy way possible, "operation starvation" . My goal was to burn off more calories than I consumed for the day. It helped as I lost a ton of weight, went from like 240# to around 180# but lost any and all muscle I had and still had the beer belly. When I turned 40 I wanted to change things around and do more for me. I went to the DR with a load of issues, which most 99% turned out to be low T. I was below 200 with fasting blood draw before 10a (only way insurance would cover it), twice. So Dr started on compounded cream for several months with no change. Numbers did not move. Switched to injections, 200mg/ml once per week. However, doing my own research I started injecting 100mg/ml twice per week, either every M-Tu or Th-F. Numbers were good and moved up to the 700-800 range and felt great! However, after about a year I started feeling like garbage again. Again, after some reading and talking with others, it was suggested that I try lowering dose a bit and injecting every 3rd day, no matter the days. So, if I started Monday the 1st, I was going to inject again on Thursday the 4th, Sunday the 7th, etc. I was dosing at 90mg/ml every 3 days. Numbers went up again above 1000. Was feeling like a rock star again. But here we are today, feeling like garbage again about a year later. So again, I dropped the dose to 80mg/ml every 3 days. Currently waiting on current lab results. Not only looking to be myself again, but my daughter is a teenager now, so I need to look mean as fuck to scare these little teen boys away! :cool:

TRT 80mg/ml every 3 days.
Tadalafil 5mg - daily
Fish oil 833mg - daily
Magnesium Glycinate 500mg- daily
Vitamin D3 K2 - 1000iu - daily

Rad140 20mg currently en route

Trying to get around 150-200G Protein per day

Training 2 days per week currently due to schedule at home with power rack, dumb bells, bar bell, and some cables. Also walk about 10k steps 5 days a week or so. I work a desk job, so a lot of sitting throughout the day, but try to walk on my breaks and lunch. I was walking stairs for my 15 minute breaks getting an average of 55 flights of stairs a day, but knee pain started in.

I was doing the same workout every Monday and Thursday, but started to get some injuries and pain in shoulders and knees so decided to change it up a bit.

Monday - A day -
Flat bench
Cable Fly
Shoulder side lateral raises
Shoulder Military press
Incline DB curl
Tri Rope extensions
Single leg platform squats
shrugs
Abs

Thursday - B day -
Incline Bench
Cable Fly
Face pulls
Cable Rows
Rear delt raises
Different variation of curls
Overhead tri extensions
RDLs
Shrugs
Abs

Shoulder injuries and knee injuries prevent me from doing a ton of pushing and squatting. I was doing the "BRO" split for the longest time and I was burning my self out and not growing. I find that working out twice a week is helping me recover better. I am probably the strongest I have ever been and close to best shape since high school/college.

Diet
I am a creature of habit.. I dont really like change, so I eat basically the same thing everyday Monday - Friday for breakfast and lunch. I will eat moderation depending on what my wife makes for dinner. I try to drink up to a gallon of water per day. I dont drink soda or energy drinks, just a couple cups of coffee in the AM. I do drink alcohol on weekends and maybe a beer if we go out to dinner on weekends.

Breakfast - Greek yogurt (either 100g or a small container), 1/4 cup 2% milk, scoop protein powder 25g P, 1/4 cup oats - EVERY Monday - Friday
Snack - Protein shake 25g P
Lunch - today 100-150g Venison steak, 100g rice - Meal plan/prep usually so I eat the same things Monday - Friday
Snack - Protein Shake 25g P
Dinner - TBD usually will just eat with the family, what ever my wife cooks.

Again I have some Rad140 20mg coming. Plan on taking 20mg in the AM.
I would love to sample/play with some peptides or other PEDS to help with some of the injuries and pains, but funds are limited.

PICS and current Labs will be coming shortly.
Hot start legend
Will be waiting for pics
 
Tuesday 4/28

Coach -
none
Sponsors - none

Training
Was a rest day but still over 10k steps and some light ab/core work.

Diet
Breakfast - 150g greek yogurt, 1 scoop whey protein, 1/4 oats, 1/4 2% milk
Snack - 1 scoop whey protein (Optimum Nutrition Standard Gold)
Lunch - 100 - 150g Venison steak, 100g rice
Snack - 1 scoop whey Protein
Dinner - 200g center cut bacon wrapped pork loin, 150g mash potatoes, 150g green beans

Supplements
Fish oil
Vitamin D3 K2
Magnesium Glycinate 500mg
Tadalifil

PEDS / Peptides
none at the moment
RAD140 en route
* I should have bought some RETA when US-Pharmacies was having the sale.. :confused:*


Some pics of current state after a day of eating. 3rd pic is flexing ;)
 

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Still waiting on current labs.

I might add I was "cutting" tracking 1800-2200kcal per day at around 183g P, 222g Carbs, & 60g Fat. I got down from 215 to 205lbs in about 90-120 days, but then stalled. I could not get lower than 205#, so went on vacation, had a great time and now ready to build on the process.
 
Tuesday 4/28

Coach -
none
Sponsors - none

Training
Was a rest day but still over 10k steps and some light ab/core work.

Diet
Breakfast - 150g greek yogurt, 1 scoop whey protein, 1/4 oats, 1/4 2% milk
Snack - 1 scoop whey protein (Optimum Nutrition Standard Gold)
Lunch - 100 - 150g Venison steak, 100g rice
Snack - 1 scoop whey Protein
Dinner - 200g center cut bacon wrapped pork loin, 150g mash potatoes, 150g green beans

Supplements
Fish oil
Vitamin D3 K2
Magnesium Glycinate 500mg
Tadalifil

PEDS / Peptides
none at the moment
RAD140 en route
* I should have bought some RETA when US-Pharmacies was having the sale.. :confused:*


Some pics of current state after a day of eating. 3rd pic is flexing ;)
looking big bro
you should have gotten reta but i think we can hook you up
you still want it? :)
 
Still waiting on current labs.

I might add I was "cutting" tracking 1800-2200kcal per day at around 183g P, 222g Carbs, & 60g Fat. I got down from 215 to 205lbs in about 90-120 days, but then stalled. I could not get lower than 205#, so went on vacation, had a great time and now ready to build on the process.
you feel lean?
 
looking big bro
you should have gotten reta but i think we can hook you up
you still want it? :)
For sure, I still want to try it. I even told my TRT Dr. at last appt, that I was walking 10k steps or more a day or doing stairs for 30 minutes per day plus lifting 2 days per week and still cant drop past 205# at 1800-2200 kcal per day with those macros. So the ran some extra labs to see what could be going on.
 
Wednesday

Coach -
none
Sponsors - none

TRT
Injected 80mg/ml this am.

PEDS / Peptides
none at the moment
RAD140 en route (mail bound) From Umbrella Labs


Training
Rest day
8649 steps
stretching
20 minute 6.2 mile assault bike ride

Diet
Breakfast - 150g greek yogurt, 1 scoop whey protein, 1/4 oats, 1/4 2% milk
Snack - 1 scoop whey protein (Optimum Nutrition Standard Gold)
Lunch - 100 - 150g Venison steak, 100g rice, banana
Snack - 1 scoop whey Protein
Dinner - 200g pork loin, 200g pasta

Supplements
Fish oil
Vitamin D3 K2
Magnesium Glycinate 500mg
Tadalifil


Here is my daily breakfast and what I have been eating for lunch this week..
 

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Male
6'
205-210#
41 pushing 42 quickly

Back ground.....Been fairly active my entire life (sports, weights, physical jobs), but some personal set backs and injuries made me soft. Got married in 2008 and got HEAVY! Had a couple of shoulder surgeries which didnt help the already heavy body I had. I lost weight the most unhealthy way possible, "operation starvation" . My goal was to burn off more calories than I consumed for the day. It helped as I lost a ton of weight, went from like 240# to around 180# but lost any and all muscle I had and still had the beer belly. When I turned 40 I wanted to change things around and do more for me. I went to the DR with a load of issues, which most 99% turned out to be low T. I was below 200 with fasting blood draw before 10a (only way insurance would cover it), twice. So Dr started on compounded cream for several months with no change. Numbers did not move. Switched to injections, 200mg/ml once per week. However, doing my own research I started injecting 100mg/ml twice per week, either every M-Tu or Th-F. Numbers were good and moved up to the 700-800 range and felt great! However, after about a year I started feeling like garbage again. Again, after some reading and talking with others, it was suggested that I try lowering dose a bit and injecting every 3rd day, no matter the days. So, if I started Monday the 1st, I was going to inject again on Thursday the 4th, Sunday the 7th, etc. I was dosing at 90mg/ml every 3 days. Numbers went up again above 1000. Was feeling like a rock star again. But here we are today, feeling like garbage again about a year later. So again, I dropped the dose to 80mg/ml every 3 days. Currently waiting on current lab results. Not only looking to be myself again, but my daughter is a teenager now, so I need to look mean as fuck to scare these little teen boys away! :cool:

TRT 80mg/ml every 3 days.
Tadalafil 5mg - daily
Fish oil 833mg - daily
Magnesium Glycinate 500mg- daily
Vitamin D3 K2 - 1000iu - daily

Rad140 20mg currently en route

Trying to get around 150-200G Protein per day

Training 2 days per week currently due to schedule at home with power rack, dumb bells, bar bell, and some cables. Also walk about 10k steps 5 days a week or so. I work a desk job, so a lot of sitting throughout the day, but try to walk on my breaks and lunch. I was walking stairs for my 15 minute breaks getting an average of 55 flights of stairs a day, but knee pain started in.

I was doing the same workout every Monday and Thursday, but started to get some injuries and pain in shoulders and knees so decided to change it up a bit.

Monday - A day -
Flat bench
Cable Fly
Shoulder side lateral raises
Shoulder Military press
Incline DB curl
Tri Rope extensions
Single leg platform squats
shrugs
Abs

Thursday - B day -
Incline Bench
Cable Fly
Face pulls
Cable Rows
Rear delt raises
Different variation of curls
Overhead tri extensions
RDLs
Shrugs
Abs

Shoulder injuries and knee injuries prevent me from doing a ton of pushing and squatting. I was doing the "BRO" split for the longest time and I was burning my self out and not growing. I find that working out twice a week is helping me recover better. I am probably the strongest I have ever been and close to best shape since high school/college.

Diet
I am a creature of habit.. I dont really like change, so I eat basically the same thing everyday Monday - Friday for breakfast and lunch. I will eat moderation depending on what my wife makes for dinner. I try to drink up to a gallon of water per day. I dont drink soda or energy drinks, just a couple cups of coffee in the AM. I do drink alcohol on weekends and maybe a beer if we go out to dinner on weekends.

Breakfast - Greek yogurt (either 100g or a small container), 1/4 cup 2% milk, scoop protein powder 25g P, 1/4 cup oats - EVERY Monday - Friday
Snack - Protein shake 25g P
Lunch - today 100-150g Venison steak, 100g rice - Meal plan/prep usually so I eat the same things Monday - Friday
Snack - Protein Shake 25g P
Dinner - TBD usually will just eat with the family, what ever my wife cooks.

Again I have some Rad140 20mg coming. Plan on taking 20mg in the AM.
I would love to sample/play with some peptides or other PEDS to help with some of the injuries and pains, but funds are limited.

PICS and current Labs will be coming shortly.
Welcome to EF mate ,nice detailed log, will be following along ๐Ÿ‘Š
 
Tuesday 4/28

Coach -
none
Sponsors - none

Training
Was a rest day but still over 10k steps and some light ab/core work.

Diet
Breakfast - 150g greek yogurt, 1 scoop whey protein, 1/4 oats, 1/4 2% milk
Snack - 1 scoop whey protein (Optimum Nutrition Standard Gold)
Lunch - 100 - 150g Venison steak, 100g rice
Snack - 1 scoop whey Protein
Dinner - 200g center cut bacon wrapped pork loin, 150g mash potatoes, 150g green beans

Supplements
Fish oil
Vitamin D3 K2
Magnesium Glycinate 500mg
Tadalifil

PEDS / Peptides
none at the moment
RAD140 en route
* I should have bought some RETA when US-Pharmacies was having the sale.. :confused:*


Some pics of current state after a day of eating. 3rd pic is flexing ;)
Solid frame brother๐Ÿ‘Š๐Ÿ‘Š๐Ÿ’ช๐Ÿ’ช
 
๐Ÿ”ฅBROS HELP.. HELP me develop a better and stronger chest. It has been my weakest link FOREVER! I always have blamed it on my long arms, as all my gym buddies have short stocky arms! But I have not ever been able to grow my chest or have a decent looking chest. I had a PR of 225# March of '25 before I had carpal tunnel and ulnar release surgery. Just trying to get away from the " man ( . ) ( . )'s.

Here are my last labs from TRT Dr as we await the new ones.
 

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๐Ÿ—“๏ธ Thursday

Coach -
none (willing)
Sponsors - none (seeking/searching)

๐Ÿ’‰ TRT
Injected 80mg/ml on 04/30/26

๐Ÿ”ฅ PEDS / Peptides
none at the moment
RAD140 en route (mail bound) From Umbrella Labs

๐Ÿ“ฑTracking/Training Device
Currently using a WHOOP wrist band device.
Life membership

๐Ÿ’ช Training
B lifting day
* Incline Bench
* Cable flies
* Face pulls
* Rows
* Lat pull downs
* Curls
* Overhead Tri ext.
*Shrugs
*ABS


8113 steps
Stretching


๐Ÿฅฉ Diet
Breakfast - 100g greek yogurt, 1 scoop whey protein, 1/4 oats, 1/4 2% milk
Snack - 2 scoop whey protein (Optimum Nutrition Standard Gold) 44g P
Lunch - 100 - 150g Venison steak, 100g rice, banana
Snack - 2 scoop whey Protein, 44g P
Dinner - 200g pork loin, 200g pasta (left overs)

๐Ÿ’Š Supplements
Fish oil
Vitamin D3 K2
Magnesium Glycinate 500mg
Tadalifil

๐Ÿ’ค Sleep
Got around 7:16hr of sleep last night
 
๐Ÿ—“๏ธ Thursday

Coach -
none (willing)
Sponsors - none (seeking/searching)

๐Ÿ’‰ TRT
Injected 80mg/ml on 04/30/26

๐Ÿ”ฅ PEDS / Peptides
none at the moment
RAD140 en route (mail bound) From Umbrella Labs

๐Ÿ“ฑTracking/Training Device
Currently using a WHOOP wrist band device.
Life membership

๐Ÿ’ช Training
B lifting day
* Incline Bench
* Cable flies
* Face pulls
* Rows
* Lat pull downs
* Curls
* Overhead Tri ext.
*Shrugs
*ABS


8113 steps
Stretching


๐Ÿฅฉ Diet
Breakfast - 100g greek yogurt, 1 scoop whey protein, 1/4 oats, 1/4 2% milk
Snack - 2 scoop whey protein (Optimum Nutrition Standard Gold) 44g P
Lunch - 100 - 150g Venison steak, 100g rice, banana
Snack - 2 scoop whey Protein, 44g P
Dinner - 200g pork loin, 200g pasta (left overs)

๐Ÿ’Š Supplements
Fish oil
Vitamin D3 K2
Magnesium Glycinate 500mg
Tadalifil

๐Ÿ’ค Sleep
Got around 7:16hr of sleep last night
food looks pretty good but what is your macros on this?
 
๐Ÿ—“๏ธ Friday

Coach -
none (willing)
Sponsors - none (seeking/searching)

๐Ÿ’‰ TRT
Injected 80mg/ml on 04/30/26

๐Ÿ”ฅ PEDS / Peptides
none at the moment
RAD140 en route (mail bound) From Umbrella Labs

๐Ÿ“ฑTracking/Training Device
Currently using a WHOOP wrist band device.
Life membership

๐Ÿ’ช Training
Rest day
30 minute brisk walk
10k+ steps
Stretching


๐Ÿฅฉ Diet
Breakfast - 100g greek yogurt, 1 scoop whey protein, 1/4 oats, 1/4 2% milk
Snack - 1 scoop whey protein (Optimum Nutrition Standard Gold) 24g P
Lunch - 100 - 150g Venison steak, 100g rice, banana
Snack - 1 scoop whey Protein, 1g P
Dinner - dinner with the inlaws. 2 pieces sausage pizza and 3 boneless wing.

๐Ÿ’Š Supplements
Fish oil
Vitamin D3 K2
Magnesium Glycinate 500mg
Tadalifil

๐Ÿ’ค Sleep
Got around 7:02hr of sleep last night
 
Bloods looking good bro and great start to your log! Did you not get e2 bloodwork done or did I miss it?

You've got a big thick muscular base and amazing traps, looking forward to following your log.
Thanks @HarleyGuy . No E2 pulled, they dont believe in it around here for TRT.

I need help getting the diet under control and losing some layers of bodyfat.
 
Thanks @HarleyGuy . No E2 pulled, they dont believe in it around here for TRT.

I need help getting the diet under control and losing some layers of bodyfat.
Your Free T is above maximum range and if your BF% is higher than you'd like then I'm suspecting that all that Free T will aromatize quite a bit and your e2 may be above range or even sky high. If your budget can manage it I'd look into getting private bloodwork done to check e2, ( (and progesterone and prolactin if you can). You don't want to walk around with e2 super high for too long; gone are the days that "I have no sides" is the gauge.
 
nice shape man, good proportion between the upper part muscles. specially for a guy over 40, you are looking better than most of the guys in their 20s out there. the only thing I would personally change is the shrugs, I think you already have well developed traps and I think your side delts are getting a bit behind. but maybe that might be just the camera angle giving this impression, idk.

anyway, all the luck for you dude ;)
 
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