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Wiccan originates from Shamanism, which is most likely the oldest form of organized religion. To call Wiccan, New Age is akin to calling Christianity the New Age derivation of Judiasm. Just sayin.

and it is...so what's the problem...:) Both are accurate descriptions...Wiccan is descended from the Golden Dawn movement...Wiccans are more like Mormons in the pagan tradition... to use a Christian reference. I started reading that stuff when I was about fifteen...
 
and it is...so what's the problem...:) Both are accurate descriptions...Wiccan is descended from the Golden Dawn movement...Wiccans are more like Mormons in the pagan tradition... to use a Christian reference. I started reading that stuff when I was about fifteen...
Actually, I'm studying shamanism, too, have been for over a year now. Can't get into it the way I'd like to because the more I experience the more I learn there's simply some things you can't read about, you have to be mentored. You need to be able to come back from a journey and say "Hey, found this ____ on/around/next to the patient, it doesn't belong there but no matter what I did I can't shift it, NOW WHAT?!"

Oh, and by the way, whoopeee you read a couple of books when you were a rebellious teenager. Good for you! I've probably forgotten more than you've ever even heard of, and you sure as hell don't know what it really means to live and practice as a Wiccan. There's a lot more information out there than there used to be, a lot more intensive information has been released in recent decades as certain individuals have moved on, and in the end, nobody who really knows anything is willing to claim to be an absolute expert in this lifestyle, not even the best of our elders, and honestly, I know some of the best ones out there.
 
and it is...so what's the problem...:) Both are accurate descriptions...Wiccan is descended from the Golden Dawn movement...Wiccans are more like Mormons in the pagan tradition... to use a Christian reference. I started reading that stuff when I was about fifteen...

Poster implied that MM was a fruit cake because of her study. I simply pointed out that Wiccan was no less relevant a religion than Chistianity. Thought my post was clear.
 
Real love is every emotion you could ever feel rolled into one. You can never truly hate some one until you have loved some one just as deeply. Only the people whom you love more then anything can seer into your heart and get to you in that way. I can let anything go, any offense any words any wrong doing. Other then the hurt that I have felt that has come from my wife. When she has hurt me that has been real hurt, when she has done me wrong that is real pain. I have hated her at times and loved her at all times. If you love some one you dont give a fuck about the views of others and what they have to say about it. When you find the one your views change.

Some people feel love is a choice. Or at least they would like to think they have a choice and control over it. It may start out as a choice however sooner or later there you are standing with your free will stripped from you. If you ever never been there then you could never fathom what its truly like. I have been with my wife since we were just kids. Call it what ever you want but I feel less of a person without her and I truly beleive I will be by her side when she passes from this life ( or vice verse ) and when that day comes I will not regret a single moment of it.

I am happy with my life, and my family and that is all that matters to me. Not the opinions of others.
 
true love isn't an emotion...it's an action.

Ya well actions speak louder then words and its nice to have some one willing to put how they really feel into actions. However just because some one will not show you how they feel in the manner in which you want them to. In no way means the emotions they may have for you are not there. :heart::heart:
 
about 1 in 5 have a superior vaginal barrell
about 1 in 5 guys know the damn difference
the wise guys chuck the weak vaginal barrells
and leave the "like fucking a glass of water" to the others
and the odds sort themselves as
as expected
1 in 5 guys fvck 75$ of the gals
and that 1 in 5 knows whether she's worth a second time around
 
Actually, I'm studying shamanism, too, have been for over a year now. Can't get into it the way I'd like to because the more I experience the more I learn there's simply some things you can't read about, you have to be mentored. You need to be able to come back from a journey and say "Hey, found this ____ on/around/next to the patient, it doesn't belong there but no matter what I did I can't shift it, NOW WHAT?!"

Oh, and by the way, whoopeee you read a couple of books when you were a rebellious teenager. Good for you! I've probably forgotten more than you've ever even heard of, and you sure as hell don't know what it really means to live and practice as a Wiccan. There's a lot more information out there than there used to be, a lot more intensive information has been released in recent decades as certain individuals have moved on, and in the end, nobody who really knows anything is willing to claim to be an absolute expert in this lifestyle, not even the best of our elders, and honestly, I know some of the best ones out there.

Interesting, you refute my argument based on authority based on your argument from authority. :) I read more than a couple books..I read the religious based texts as well as historical texts by academics. You know how that ended? When I was fifteen my mother took me to a psychiatrist because I had become distant as a teenager and after searching my room found I read heretical texts....:) I was given the standard battery of tests by a psychiatrist and his conclusion....."You have a well balanced personality." However, it took six months of therapy to convince my mother I wasn't crazy....True story...
 
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