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SARMS1 - OSTA SARMS vs S4 - which and why?

OSTA SARMS VS SARMS S4

  • OSTA SARMS

    Votes: 84 66.1%
  • SARMS S4

    Votes: 43 33.9%

  • Total voters
    127

aj13

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Already ran s4... had no side effects, am about to buy another bottle after i buy my test.. I like the s4 because it is more anabolic, what do the rest of you think?
 
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I love s4, I havent really had a chance to try the osta full on. I feel the satck is going to be amazing.
 
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I've run 3 bottles of s4 total and just got my first osta. Looking forward to it. If the gains/results are similar I know I'll be sticking with osta going forward just because of the toxicity issues with the m1 (what's this do to Long term) and vision sides (Which I get some of at 50mg Ed) that I got with s4.

Loved the hardening of the s4 thou
 
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S4 gets my vote I cant even tell Im on anything with Mk-2866, not to mention with the couple thousand bottles of SARMS that have been sold youd think wed have run into a blind person here or there, yet its just not the case at this point yet. Believe it or not my vision has slightly improved since my last visit to the eye doctor. Go figure.
 
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S4 gets my vote I cant even tell Im on anything with Mk-2866, not to mention with the couple thousand bottles of SARMS that have been sold youd think wed have run into a blind person here or there, yet its just not the case at this point yet. Believe it or not my vision has slightly improved since my last visit to the eye doctor. Go figure.


how long and at what does are you using with mk-2866 osta?
 
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I was very pleased with S4 and the vision sides are just short of non existent now that I am halfway through my second bottle. I'm going to finish the bottle and take a break before starting the OSTA though, so no idea on the comparison. S4 is good stuff though!
 
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how long and at what does are you using with mk-2866 osta?


OSTA works slooow bro, compair to S4. OSTA started to kick in on day 10 or so. Slow but nice solid lean gains. I just started week 3 now and the body is looking different :D I'm up 2 pounds, with 15 mg ED. Looking more vascular aswell.

I have 2 bottles and will run @ 15mg ED until their empty :evil:
 
Re: OSTA SARMS vs S4 - which and why?

sweet i just ordered the OSTA sarms just to compare with S4... kinda wished I got the S4 now though! Is OSTA just meant to burn body fat a bit better? wondering whether I should email them and check...
 
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sweet i just ordered the OSTA sarms just to compare with S4... kinda wished I got the S4 now though! Is OSTA just meant to burn body fat a bit better? wondering whether I should email them and check...
No bro, OSTA is purely anabolic.
It burns fat and builds clean, quality lean mass!

S4 is androgenic and slightly anabolic.

You had it mixed up bro :)
 
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I''m running s4 right now @50mg and loving it, strength is up and weight I'm only down 2lbs since coming off a long cycle. When this runs out I am going to try mk-2866 @12.5mg per day for 30 days as see how they compare. From what I've been reading the s4 makes you a bit harder over all, but osta will add muscle a bit better. What is the general consensus on the fat burning abilities of osta?
 
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i just ordered a bottle of osta- gamer is right ( gamer its schwell btw)

OSTA is purely anabolic- thus its fat burning/muscle building properties are better than s4- well s4 will lean you out more


but for muscle preservation while on a cut or recomp- s1 or osta


im even going to start a recomp my 3rd week of pct cause i will be on osta



not going to loose any mass there
 
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i just ordered a bottle of osta- gamer is right ( gamer its schwell btw)

OSTA is purely anabolic- thus its fat burning/muscle building properties are better than s4- well s4 will lean you out more


but for muscle preservation while on a cut or recomp- s1 or osta


im even going to start a recomp my 3rd week of pct cause i will be on osta



not going to loose any mass there

hey bro!!!
Get in my log man!

http://www.elitefitness.com/forum/anabolic-steroids/anabolic-killer-going-beast-mode-719671-19.html
I am getting OSTA for my PCT and then use S4 for 6 weeks after!
 
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ur crazy dude- im going to do something similar LOL

Going to use s1 for a recomp in pct plus another month outside of pct take a month off then hop on s4 to recomp with it


take a month off


cut with epi/katana


i am a beast
 
Re: OSTA SARMS vs S4 - which and why?

ur crazy dude- im going to do something similar LOL

Going to use s1 for a recomp in pct plus another month outside of pct take a month off then hop on s4 to recomp with it


take a month off


cut with epi/katana


i am a beast

Why you not in my log :(?
 
Re: OSTA SARMS vs S4 - which and why?

can you cut bf on S4 without losing muscle mass one month after finishing PCT? with a calorie deficient diet or keto no carb diet?
 
Re: OSTA SARMS vs S4 - which and why?

can you cut bf on S4 without losing muscle mass one month after finishing PCT? with a calorie deficient diet or keto no carb diet?

Yes, you could.
 
Re: OSTA SARMS vs S4 - which and why?

Which would you reccomend...

Less calories with more cardio

Keto or carb cycle with more cardio

Maintenance calories with more cardio IMO...
And use need2slin, no joke, no lie, that shit is the bomb, even on a bulk..
 
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Maintenance calories with more cardio IMO...
And use need2slin, no joke, no lie, that shit is the bomb, even on a bulk..

funny you say that because i ordered needslin as well so i have it on hand ready to start when i start the Sarms s4. Whats the best way to take need2slin doasge wise and when through out the day/night for best effects? how many caps etc..
 
Re: OSTA SARMS vs S4 - which and why?

Someone mentioned that Stacking the both would be counter-productive as they compete for the same receptor? Is there any substance to this statement?
 
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Someone mentioned that Stacking the both would be counter-productive as they compete for the same receptor? Is there any substance to this statement?

Not true...
You can stack and have best of both worlds..
 
Re: OSTA SARMS vs S4 - which and why?

Garmer, you seem very knowledgeable in the area! question - I have during the summer tried out the Sarms S4 that compared to example Tbol, showed little to no result. But anyways, im thinking about giving it one more shot! =) would one need a PCT to accompany a cycle of S4 and Ostarine? in your opinon..
 
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S4 I would do a mild PCT.
Osta no PCT.
Make sure your diet is in check and get sarms search brand, they get theirs tested.
I would also be on both S4 or Osta for 8 weeks.

Dose S4 at 75mg ED
Osta at 15mg ED
 
Re: OSTA SARMS vs S4 - which and why?

how about you went for 25 mg four times per week and 12.5 for three days? Ive figured my bottles will last me longer then. one bottle should last for 30 days, running 1 ml ed, but for me it lasts only 3 weeks =( guess the dripper is not very accurate!

I agree with everything youve written about OSTA, Gamer! its really working, all the desired effects and zero sides! Will be interesting to see what gains one could have from 8 weeks on a bulk diet.. 6-10 pounds dosent appear extreme to me, if diet is clean and training is in check!

Im even considering high volume training along with this! You never go tired, energy is way up and recovery from each set seems less for each workout!

GREAT stuff!
 
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Someone mentioned that Stacking the both would be counter-productive as they compete for the same receptor? Is there any substance to this statement?

totally false! I have ran Both ,come this sumer i will be running both together. :)
 
Re: OSTA SARMS vs S4 - which and why?

Will be logging OSTA as a introduction of myself to the board. Seems Iike this is the place to be for SARM discussion. Just ordered today along with some more whey and casein.

Been running noxplode as a preworkout. In terms of pumps, would running a nitric oxide pre workout supp, and osta be counter productive during my workout? I also may run some testforce 2 as ive been having great results with that already.... Without suppression it seems Ike running DAA and OSTA might be a great combo. Let me know what you guys think.
 
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I am running both very soon :) and logging
 
Re: OSTA SARMS vs S4 - which and why?

Will be logging OSTA as a introduction of myself to the board. Seems Iike this is the place to be for SARM discussion. Just ordered today along with some more whey and casein.

Been running noxplode as a preworkout. In terms of pumps, would running a nitric oxide pre workout supp, and osta be counter productive during my workout? I also may run some testforce 2 as ive been having great results with that already.... Without suppression it seems Ike running DAA and OSTA might be a great combo. Let me know what you guys think.

Daa and osta is great combo. osta will also enhance pumps.
 
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SARM and IGF.. I shall put to the test
 
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What is everyone mean by the vision thing. Is it causing some to go temp blind or something? I want to try Sarms 4 but not if it deteriates my eye sight. Also what's the best way to take this stuff? Solo or with stacking other products.
 
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They mean night blindness on s4 but I is temporary and not everyone will experience it. Run it 5 days on and 2 days off and you won't have vision probs
 
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Osta has been sick.... Ive gained 5 lbs in 4 weeks. Strength is up on most lifts, no side effects at all, considering rushing another shipment to extend it for another 4 weeks at 25mg...
 
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I am liking S4 better than osta, I can deal with yellow vision. no night blindness..
 
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y u liking s4 better?please epxlain



Because you feel it moe than osta.. It feels great! And your super hard and vascular. It is like being on helladrol, but much less suppressive.. S4 PCT after hella be a good cycle..
 
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Gamer are you affected by the sides on S4? At what dose do you run it? From everything I've been reading Osta would seem the better choice simply because of the no side affects aspect. S4 with the yellowing of vision is a bit on the scary side for me.
 
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Already ran s4... had no side effects, am about to buy another bottle after i buy my test.. I like the s4 because it is more anabolic, what do the rest of you think?

I always heard people say S1 was more anabolic, whereas S4 was more dramatic for cutting to enhance strength and assist in cutting. What dosage did you get up to on S4 and still noticed no side effects? May I ask where you got it from?
 
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what are peoples opinions on using s4 as an aid during pct? I read somewhere that the dose should be lowered to around 20-30, and that it is effective in helping one to keep gains from an aas cycle. I also read that s4 needs its own light pct? kind of confused...
 
Re: OSTA SARMS vs S4 - which and why?

what are peoples opinions on using s4 as an aid during pct? I read somewhere that the dose should be lowered to around 20-30, and that it is effective in helping one to keep gains from an aas cycle. I also read that s4 needs its own light pct? kind of confused...

Both OSTA and S4 are ideal for PCT, although they can be administered concomitantly with AAS. It is akin to running IGF-1-LR3 with GHRP-2 for example, as an ancillary method to retain the newly realized muscle mass. There has been some speculation and from what I've heard even blood work, that shows a slight suppressive effect from SARMS SEARCH's products, but it is minimal and reversible.
 
Re: OSTA SARMS vs S4 - which and why?

Both OSTA and S4 are ideal for PCT, although they can be administered concomitantly with AAS. It is akin to running IGF-1-LR3 with GHRP-2 for example, as an ancillary method to retain the newly realized muscle mass. There has been some speculation and from what I've heard even blood work, that shows a slight suppressive effect from SARMS SEARCH's products, but it is minimal and reversible.


I have used both in pct
 
Re: OSTA SARMS vs S4 - which and why?

Both OSTA and S4 are ideal for PCT, although they can be administered concomitantly with AAS. It is akin to running IGF-1-LR3 with GHRP-2 for example, as an ancillary method to retain the newly realized muscle mass. There has been some speculation and from what I've heard even blood work, that shows a slight suppressive effect from SARMS SEARCH's products, but it is minimal and reversible.

I have felt no suppression with either s4 or osta
 
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I have heard that S4 Does suppress you slightly, and OSTA does not at all.

However i was thinking of using OSTA for pct 2 weeks after last shot and then after i go thru the bottle of OSTA run a bottle of S4.

I spoke with Need2 about using OSTA during PCT and he recommended waiting after PCT to start. and i was thinking of starting maybe on week 3 of PCT.

i will also be sing ghrp-6 and cjc-1293 for pct as well starting a week after my last shot to give it a head start!
 
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My vote went to S4. Downside was I got the yellow vision despite vitamin a, lutein and bilberry. Increased vascularity, strength was up a little above natural, same with size.

Osta, I can't say it did anything. Maybe it did, but i didn't notice.
 
My vote went to S4. Downside was I got the yellow vision despite vitamin a, lutein and bilberry. Increased vascularity, strength was up a little above natural, same with size.

Osta, I can't say it did anything. Maybe it did, but i didn't notice.

I'm loving s4. How long did u run osta and how much did u take?
 
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My vote went to S4. Downside was I got the yellow vision despite vitamin a, lutein and bilberry. Increased vascularity, strength was up a little above natural, same with size.

Osta, I can't say it did anything. Maybe it did, but i didn't notice.

That's really odd on the OSTA, I've heard the opposite feedback many times... how much were you on and was it from SARMS SEARCH, the premier provider of legit potent sarms?
 
Re: OSTA SARMS vs S4 - which and why?

I actually preferred Osta to s4,although the combo was better still. Osta @25mg/d was the best dose,and it took over 2 weeks to fully kick in.
 
Re: OSTA SARMS vs S4 - which and why?

On the combo now and LOVING it.

I'll see your combo, and meet you at the end of September! Haha :) Can't wait to actually cycle BOTH together.

One other thing, I'd love to know your thoughts on whether or not SARMS with a Test base would be beneficial, or not? I do a blast cruise continuously, so adding in SARMS makes me wonder if it would be an advantage or a disadvantage, in case perhaps they work through the same receptor and they would simply compete for it and both would be rendered less effective?
 
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Lots of good info here. Don't know if anyone's still here but I was wondering which sarms would be best for tendon repair. I'm going in for rotator cuff surgery in a few days & was looking for some hgh but stumbled on sarms. I'm still thinking of hgh but it's difficult to know what I'm getting. Found a good price on jintropin at $430 for 100iu. If it's all the same amino acid chain does the brand matter? Anyway, any help much appreciated.
 
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Re: OSTA SARMS vs S4 - which and why?

I think both compounds have their strengths over the other. Its hard to say one is better than the other. It just depends on your goal.

Ostarine is better at building muscle and is not nearly as suppressive as S-4 in my experience, which makes it ideal for PCT. It also is pretty much side effect free.

S-4 is much better at strength gains and fat loss, which is mostly in part to it being more androgenic. Unfortunately it does have the vision side effects with it along with being more suppressive.

They are both great, and I do use them both. The most important thing would be to buy from a reputable company like SarmsSearch. I wonder about some of the lesser known companies.
 
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thanks for the reply rick & i did order the ostarine from sarmsearch on oct 3 but 2 weeks later i still haven't got it
 
I think both compounds have their strengths over the other. Its hard to say one is better than the other. It just depends on your goal.

Ostarine is better at building muscle and is not nearly as suppressive as S-4 in my experience, which makes it ideal for PCT. It also is pretty much side effect free.

S-4 is much better at strength gains and fat loss, which is mostly in part to it being more androgenic. Unfortunately it does have the vision side effects with it along with being more suppressive.

They are both great, and I do use them both. The most important thing would be to buy from a reputable company like SarmsSearch. I wonder about some of the lesser known companies.

My problem with S4 its superssiveness...that is it! If it wasn't then I would stack with Osta and run it foreva!!!!!!

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almost 3 weeks still nothing, may have to send in the unauthorized form on the credit card, too bad i was hoping it would come through
 
Re: OSTA SARMS vs S4 - which and why?

ok, just checked the mail & it has come through[so, no more whining] - yes!
 
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FOr the record for those who want to stack both, Osta has about a 24 hour half life, which means as long as you are taking it every day, it doesn't really matter when you take it. S4 on the other hand has a shorter half life, which is why it was originally recommended to split the dose.

As far as competeing for the same receptors
Osta is more anabolic where as the S4 is more androgenic.
 
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FOr the record for those who want to stack both, Osta has about a 24 hour half life, which means as long as you are taking it every day, it doesn't really matter when you take it. S4 on the other hand has a shorter half life, which is why it was originally recommended to split the dose.

As far as competeing for the same receptors
Osta is more anabolic where as the S4 is more androgenic.





















As far as them hitting the same receptors, I believe I've heard the opposite, which makes sense as Osta is more anabolic whereas the S4 is more androgenic. But again, the caveat that I don't have a true background in this stuff, just repeating what I've read.



I'm having great results with them stacked that are very comparable to a mild oral steroid cycle. It is definitely a stack that I will be running again, especially for a cut or recomp. The effects for keeping catabolism at bay has been stellar! :)
 
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Oddly the vision sides have been sparce and random. I'm at S4 75mg 3 dosings of 25 at 600am, noon, and 6pm so it's at decent levels all day, but the weird psychadelics kick in at random. I take Sundays off only right now. I hadn't had the weird vision effect for 3 days and then walking into a dim conference room after standing oustide for 20 min it got all trippy again for a minute. But I had gone through the same conditions multiple times for days and that hadn't happened. And to me its not like nightvision its like 1 part night vision, 1 part vision on shrooms, 1 part dirty ambervision glasses but it only last about 1 maybe 2 minutes for me. At 75mg/day i think it's very tolerable.
And I'm just killing it in the gym, don't want to stop.
 
Oddly the vision sides have been sparce and random. I'm at S4 75mg 3 dosings of 25 at 600am, noon, and 6pm so it's at decent levels all day, but the weird psychadelics kick in at random. I take Sundays off only right now. I hadn't had the weird vision effect for 3 days and then walking into a dim conference room after standing oustide for 20 min it got all trippy again for a minute. But I had gone through the same conditions multiple times for days and that hadn't happened. And to me its not like nightvision its like 1 part night vision, 1 part vision on shrooms, 1 part dirty ambervision glasses but it only last about 1 maybe 2 minutes for me. At 75mg/day i think it's very tolerable.
And I'm just killing it in the gym, don't want to stop.

Yeh I think the vision issues affect people differently. Some get them bad at 50mg, while some (like me) can run up to 100mg per day with only slight vision issues that 5 on, 2 off seems to correct
 
Re: OSTA SARMS vs S4 - which and why?

Oddly the vision sides have been sparce and random. I'm at S4 75mg 3 dosings of 25 at 600am, noon, and 6pm so it's at decent levels all day, but the weird psychadelics kick in at random. I take Sundays off only right now. I hadn't had the weird vision effect for 3 days and then walking into a dim conference room after standing oustide for 20 min it got all trippy again for a minute. But I had gone through the same conditions multiple times for days and that hadn't happened. And to me its not like nightvision its like 1 part night vision, 1 part vision on shrooms, 1 part dirty ambervision glasses but it only last about 1 maybe 2 minutes for me. At 75mg/day i think it's very tolerable.
And I'm just killing it in the gym, don't want to stop.

You're lucky I couldn't see a damn thing at night.

1 week after the end of the cycle though my night vision has returned completely.
 
What if you stack all three? How would that work. How many mgs each?

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Re: OSTA SARMS vs S4 - which and why?

Oddly the vision sides have been sparce and random. I'm at S4 75mg 3 dosings of 25 at 600am, noon, and 6pm so it's at decent levels all day, but the weird psychadelics kick in at random. I take Sundays off only right now. I hadn't had the weird vision effect for 3 days and then walking into a dim conference room after standing oustide for 20 min it got all trippy again for a minute. But I had gone through the same conditions multiple times for days and that hadn't happened. And to me its not like nightvision its like 1 part night vision, 1 part vision on shrooms, 1 part dirty ambervision glasses but it only last about 1 maybe 2 minutes for me. At 75mg/day i think it's very tolerable.
And I'm just killing it in the gym, don't want to stop.


This is exactly what I get. I don't get yellowing of my vsion, but I do get like geodes types things in my vision... if that makes sense? It's like I see crystals through parts of my eyes, but now all of them. This is hard to descrdibe... Not certain I'm doing a great job of it.
 
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Sarmssearch is all I use now. I will never go back now that I know what good shit this is!

You read my mind - I've tried the rest, now I stick with the best. Sarmssearch is the way to go and all I'll ever use in the future.

Even though this poll is old its still good.

My 2 cents - I've had better results with S4, even bulking. But complete lack of sideeffects makes OSTA very appealing.....

I'd say if you can handle the sides, S4 is the way to go.
 
You read my mind - I've tried the rest, now I stick with the best. Sarmssearch is the way to go and all I'll ever use in the future.

Even though this poll is old its still good.

My 2 cents - I've had better results with S4, even bulking. But complete lack of sideeffects makes OSTA very appealing.....

I'd say if you can handle the sides, S4 is the way to go.

Actually, the sides from sarmssearch S4 are way less pronounced, even at a higher dose. Now some people would think this is because the product isn't strong, but don't let that fool you.

When the powder is more pure and mixed with a higher concentration in a sterile suspension, the androgenic effects are much more pronounced and the sides such as tinted vision are drastically reduced.

I love osta so much after it solved my rotator issue in my shoulder, but nothing tops sarmsearch S4 in terms of a flat out fat shredding, androgenic boosting kick. I feel so fkn pumped on S4, every workout is so killer, and when I stack it with osta I have to keep reminding myself that I DID kill it, I just recovered faster!

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Actually, the sides from sarmssearch S4 are way less pronounced, even at a higher dose. Now some people would think this is because the product isn't strong, but don't let that fool you.

When the powder is more pure and mixed with a higher concentration in a sterile suspension, the androgenic effects are much more pronounced and the sides such as tinted vision are drastically reduced.

I love osta so much after it solved my rotator issue in my shoulder, but nothing tops sarmsearch S4 in terms of a flat out fat shredding, androgenic boosting kick. I feel so fkn pumped on S4, every workout is so killer, and when I stack it with osta I have to keep reminding myself that I DID kill it, I just recovered faster!

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Completely true, I have noticed this as well - it seems like my side effects are halfed at double the dose when I'm using SS as opposed to other companies, and I know that its the purity and quality that are at fault.

OSTA does have some great healing properties as well.
 
Actually, the sides from sarmssearch S4 are way less pronounced, even at a higher dose. Now some people would think this is because the product isn't strong, but don't let that fool you.

When the powder is more pure and mixed with a higher concentration in a sterile suspension, the androgenic effects are much more pronounced and the sides such as tinted vision are drastically reduced.

I love osta so much after it solved my rotator issue in my shoulder, but nothing tops sarmsearch S4 in terms of a flat out fat shredding, androgenic boosting kick. I feel so fkn pumped on S4, every workout is so killer, and when I stack it with osta I have to keep reminding myself that I DID kill it, I just recovered faster!

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I can relate to that right now, as my dose has increased on S4 up to 100mg each day every day. My vision sides are very low, even at this higher dose. ;)
 
Exactly rick, I can get better results with SS because of how high I can run the dose before sides kick in

On my rats, of course.

They love the triple stack! An 8 week run is so sweet! Feeling strong and pumped all day is awesome
 
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Exactly rick, I can get better results with SS because of how high I can run the dose before sides kick in

On my rats, of course.

They love the triple stack! An 8 week run is so sweet! Feeling strong and pumped all day is awesome

I know the feeling, SS sarms are my Sarms of choice - wont run anything else
 
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I've already voted and probably commented...but S4 is my rats' favorite. Not interested in gaining a lot, so osta has never been given to them. But SS S4 never does them wrong. Amazing stuff!
 
Re: OSTA SARMS vs S4 - which and why?

osta sarms @sarmssearch all the way.. s4 bothers my eyes alittle to much, not a huge fan of it, for that reason and that reason only.I hear s4 works great though
 
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osta sarms @sarmssearch all the way.. s4 bothers my eyes alittle to much, not a huge fan of it, for that reason and that reason only.I hear s4 works great though

Your rat's name is My too? :-)

The S4 sides are def dose and rat dependent...good thing about them though is the fact that they go away quickly as soon as they stop taking it.

My rats have never tried Osta, will be giving them a round of it from SS in the future for sure.
 
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Your rat's name is My too? :-)

The S4 sides are def dose and rat dependent...good thing about them though is the fact that they go away quickly as soon as they stop taking it.

My rats have never tried Osta, will be giving them a round of it from SS in the future for sure.

i am going to give s4 another run soon(because i hear such good things about it) at very low dosage and ramp up if possible.I used s4, when it first came out and the info availble on it wasnt top notch, so i dont think i ran it as well as i could have.
 
Re: OSTA SARMS vs S4 - which and why?

i am going to give s4 another run soon(because i hear such good things about it) at very low dosage and ramp up if possible.I used s4, when it first came out and the info availble on it wasnt top notch, so i dont think i ran it as well as i could have.

I followed Dylan's instructions from the "how to dose S4 properly" thread to the letter when I ran my uniquemicals cycle and the results were outstanding (added 8+ pounds of lean mass while maintaining same bodyfat in 8 weeks). I did get some minimal vision sides - slight yellow tint and some slower adjustments to changes in light - but they were minor, actually improved after I adjusted and went away within a couple days.
 
I HAVE Never run S4 but SS osta has great endurance effects as well. Combined with SS GW and S4 apparently endurance should phenomenal.
 
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