SARMS1 - OSTA SARMS vs S4 - which and why?

[hurricane]

Re: OSTA SARMS vs S4 - which and why?

I followed Dylan's instructions from the "how to dose S4 properly" thread to the letter when I ran my uniquemicals cycle and the results were outstanding (added 8+ pounds of lean mass while maintaining same bodyfat in 8 weeks). I did get some minimal vision sides - slight yellow tint and some slower adjustments to changes in light - but they were minor, actually improved after I adjusted and went away within a couple days.

thats the problem, i dont like anything fucking with my eyes. For that i would run other steriod compounds in a different cycle that would product better cutting effects.i would rather the sides of some of those steriods compared to something that fucks with my vision(to me thats a bad side, not something with limited side effects).I wont use unless there are no visions sides period. i will start off very low dose and see how it goes

 

[RickRock13]

For those that don't get bad vision sides like me, S4 really shines. Its definitely my favorite Sarm in terms of results

 

[liffalot]

Re: OSTA SARMS vs S4 - which and why?

thats the problem, i dont like anything fucking with my eyes. For that i would run other steriod compounds in a different cycle that would product better cutting effects.i would rather the sides of some of those steriods compared to something that fucks with my vision(to me thats a bad side, not something with limited side effects).I wont use unless there are no visions sides period. i will start off very low dose and see how it goes

I'm with Rick, I can do 100 mgs for 8 weeks dosing ED and get no vision sides until very late in cycle. S4 is the "do it all" sarm for me.

Its been my experience that I'm able to dose higher and longer with Sarmssearch S4 without getting sides than with others.

 

[hurricane]

Re: OSTA SARMS vs S4 - which and why?

I'm with Rick, I can do 100 mgs for 8 weeks dosing ED and get no vision sides until very late in cycle. S4 is the "do it all" sarm for me.

Its been my experience that I'm able to dose higher and longer with Sarmssearch S4 without getting sides than with others.

unfortunely its not like this for everyone and probably a good reason this poll is so loopsided in favor of osta.

 

[liffalot]

Re: OSTA SARMS vs S4 - which and why?

unfortunely its not like this for everyone and probably a good reason this poll is so loopsided in favor of osta.

Yep, that's an unfortunate fact of life - different chemicals operate differently on different bodies.

 

[hurricane]

Re: OSTA SARMS vs S4 - which and why?

Yep, that's an unfortunate fact of life - different chemicals operate differently on different bodies.

that being said, i will give s4 another run soon.but for the pct benefits of osta, its an easier winner in my book regardless

 

[Jack steel]

Re: OSTA SARMS vs S4 - which and why?

Already ran s4... had no side effects, am about to buy another bottle after i buy my test.. I like the s4 because it is more anabolic, what do the rest of you think?

S4 is not more anabolic than Osta. I haven't tried S4 yet but, i know Osta is the shit in every way. I dig Sarmssearch over the rest

 

[liffalot]

Re: OSTA SARMS vs S4 - which and why?

S4 is not more anabolic than Osta. I haven't tried S4 yet but, i know Osta is the shit in every way. I dig Sarmssearch over the rest

Yea scientifically we know that OSTA is supposed to have more anabolism to it than S4 but I usually still see better results with my S4 than I do with my OSTA.

Sarmssearch OSTA is great for its PCT benefits though, that's where I think it really shines.

 

[hurricane]

Re: OSTA SARMS vs S4 - which and why?

Yea scientifically we know that OSTA is supposed to have more anabolism to it than S4 but I usually still see better results with my S4 than I do with my OSTA.

Sarmssearch OSTA is great for its PCT benefits though, that's where I think it really shines.

i agree it ..osta's abilities in pct are groundbreaking..osta and peptides have brought pct's to a whole new level.osta even more so IMO.

 

[liffalot]

Re: OSTA SARMS vs S4 - which and why?

i agree it ..osta's abilities in pct are groundbreaking..osta and peptides have brought pct's to a whole new level.osta even more so IMO.

Yea I'll take some SS osta over peptides any day if I have to choose. Never used peptides in a PCT though

 

[notjake11]

Re: OSTA SARMS vs S4 - which and why?

i agree it ..osta's abilities in pct are groundbreaking..osta and peptides have brought pct's to a whole new level.osta even more so IMO.

Rumor has it that you can effectively use both Osta AND GW during PCT. Dylan said he did so with positive results. I'll be running Unique for both at the end of my upcoming cycle throughout my PCT.

 

[jeremyng25]

Rumor has it that you can effectively use both Osta AND GW during PCT. Dylan said he did so with positive results. I'll be running Unique for both at the end of my upcoming cycle throughout my PCT.

I would think this is fine but might want to increase calorie intake slightly so that the GW fat burning effect doesn't kill any gains

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[Jack steel]

That buddy of mine who is cutting up for the first time with SS osta/GW is looking good. Trying to get up some before and afters soon.

 

[RickRock13]

GW has very nice anti-catabolic properties so it is definitely a good idea to run in PCT. I'm doing it now myself

 

[liffalot]

Re: OSTA SARMS vs S4 - which and why?

Rumor has it that you can effectively use both Osta AND GW during PCT. Dylan said he did so with positive results. I'll be running Unique for both at the end of my upcoming cycle throughout my PCT.

Yep I have run a PCT with Sarmssearch OSTA and GW and it went well. Did not feel like it was the best use of my GW but it certainly didn't hurt

 

[Jack steel]

Re: OSTA SARMS vs S4 - which and why?

Yea I'll take some SS osta over peptides any day if I have to choose. Never used peptides in a PCT though

Oh, no doubt. Sarms, especially SS, compared to the peptides i've used is like comparing night and day as far as end results.

 

[northernknight]

Yep I have run a PCT with Sarmssearch OSTA and GW and it went well. Did not feel like it was the best use of my GW but it certainly didn't hurt

I did some GW during my previous PCT as well, and I turned out to be great choice! Though not SS, but def legit GW, it was ideal choice to fight rebound from T3, Clen, and Albuterol. Rebound was non existent, even with rather long run with T3. I have still been able to keep dropping bf after cycle, using just GW. I think it's a real good addition to PCT, though it depends what sort of cycke you have ran.
I will start triple stack run of SARMS & Albuterol (+ some peptides 'n other additions) in few weeks, I will just have to get my bloods done first.

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[liffalot]

Re: OSTA SARMS vs S4 - which and why?

I did some GW during my previous PCT as well, and I turned out to be great choice! Though not SS, but def legit GW, it was ideal choice to fight rebound from T3, Clen, and Albuterol. Rebound was non existent, even with rather long run with T3. I have still been able to keep dropping bf after cycle, using just GW. I think it's a real good addition to PCT, though it depends what sort of cycke you have ran.
I will start triple stack run of SARMS & Albuterol (+ some peptides 'n other additions) in few weeks, I will just have to get my bloods done first.

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Glad to hear it, that's interesting that it kept you from getting rebound after a pretty hardcore cutting cycle like that!

Keep SS in mind for you're next cycle, you'll love it

 

[hurricane]

Re: OSTA SARMS vs S4 - which and why?

I did some GW during my previous PCT as well, and I turned out to be great choice! Though not SS, but def legit GW, it was ideal choice to fight rebound from T3, Clen, and Albuterol. Rebound was non existent, even with rather long run with T3. I have still been able to keep dropping bf after cycle, using just GW. I think it's a real good addition to PCT, though it depends what sort of cycke you have ran.
I will start triple stack run of SARMS & Albuterol (+ some peptides 'n other additions) in few weeks, I will just have to get my bloods done first.

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and gw causes no supression at all. So it is truely a great choice

 

[liffalot]

Re: OSTA SARMS vs S4 - which and why?

and gw causes no supression at all. So it is truely a great choice

Very true, there really isn't a concrete downside to it. I've had great experiences with SS GW and now that I'm hearing such great things about Sarms1 GW I cant wait to give it a shot

 

[hurricane]

Re: OSTA SARMS vs S4 - which and why?

Rumor has it that you can effectively use both Osta AND GW during PCT. Dylan said he did so with positive results. I'll be running Unique for both at the end of my upcoming cycle throughout my PCT.

yea for sure.. osta is excellent in pct to hold gains.. and gw causes no supression, is anti-catabolic and will cause fat-loss.So it works well together in pct IMO

 

[WolfpackAlpha]

Re: OSTA SARMS vs S4 - which and why?

I prefer Ostarine (mk-2866) over S-4 purely because I get those visual side effects from S-4 a bit, nothing major. After that, I run 25-50mgs s-4 max and usually stack with ostarine.

 

[Shrine1]

Re: OSTA SARMS vs S4 - which and why?

Im hoping I can keep the vision sides at bay... I cant wait till all three kick in though.

Im looking forward to also running GW in PCT along with Osta after a DS run.

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[Jbranken]

Re: OSTA SARMS vs S4 - which and why?

They're both pretty awesome so it's hard to choose. I guess I'd go with ostarine because it is so versatile and can be used in pct which is a huge plus. Stack it with gw and you're set. Add in s4 for the bridge and you'll feel like you never came off!

 

[RickRock13]

Re: OSTA SARMS vs S4 - which and why?

They are all great compounds that can be used a variety of ways. The triple stack is definitely the way to go in between cycle though. Sarms1 has a great stack of the three for a great price as well

 

[WolfpackAlpha]

Re: OSTA SARMS vs S4 - which and why?

They're both pretty awesome so it's hard to choose. I guess I'd go with ostarine because it is so versatile and can be used in pct which is a huge plus. Stack it with gw and you're set. Add in s4 for the bridge and you'll feel like you never came off!

GW and S-4 is a great bridge, or you can consider LGD.

 

[liffalot]

Re: OSTA SARMS vs S4 - which and why?

They are all great compounds that can be used a variety of ways. The triple stack is definitely the way to go in between cycle though. Sarms1 has a great stack of the three for a great price as well

Yea the Sarms1 triple stack is really unbeatable for bridge or standalone purposes.

 

[hurricane]

Re: OSTA SARMS vs S4 - which and why?

They're both pretty awesome so it's hard to choose. I guess I'd go with ostarine because it is so versatile and can be used in pct which is a huge plus. Stack it with gw and you're set. Add in s4 for the bridge and you'll feel like you never came off!

for sure . osta in pct make it a landslide winner imo!

 

[liffalot]

Re: OSTA SARMS vs S4 - which and why?

I prefer Ostarine (mk-2866) over S-4 purely because I get those visual side effects from S-4 a bit, nothing major. After that, I run 25-50mgs s-4 max and usually stack with ostarine.

See I don't get hardly any vision sides on S4 so I'm all about the 100 mgs ED

 

[Shrine1]

Re: OSTA SARMS vs S4 - which and why?

Im at 80mg ed with no sides.. other than slight light to dark sensitivity. Very slight

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[RickRock13]

Re: OSTA SARMS vs S4 - which and why?

See I don't get hardly any vision sides on S4 so I'm all about the 100 mgs ED

I'm lucky in that regard as well. I love S4 at 100mg ED

 

[liffalot]

Re: OSTA SARMS vs S4 - which and why?

I'm lucky in that regard as well. I love S4 at 100mg ED

I'm excited to try Sarms1 S4 at this dose......if their other products are any indication then itll be like no other S4 I've ever used

 

[hurricane]

Re: OSTA SARMS vs S4 - which and why?

osta is rocking it in this poll lol

 

[Shrine1]

Re: OSTA SARMS vs S4 - which and why?

osta is rocking it in this poll lol

Ostarine is the beat all around sarm.. love it

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[hurricane]

Re: OSTA SARMS vs S4 - which and why?

Ostarine is the beat all around sarm.. love it

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agreed. well that depends on what you count gw aas .tech it isnt a sarm.Osta easily is better then s4 imo, for many reasons.

 

[Shrine1]

I would still pick ostarine over GW

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[hurricane]

its close but osta is more effective when i cycle for its pct purposes.. i could never cycle again and still have a huge man crush on gw! cant beat a product with no sides and that gives zero supression, impossible imo

so winner for me =gw

 

[Shrine1]

its close but osta is more effective when i cycle for its pct purposes.. i could never cycle again and still have a huge man crush on gw! cant beat a product with no sides and that gives zero supression, impossible imo

so winner for me =gw

I can dig it

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[onetwomany]

Im pretty stoked I ordered all three compounds to give a shot. I just came off a var cycle that did me pretty well so im interested to see where this goes.

 

[Shrine1]

You will like all three for sure... You could try throwing in Yohimflame and get extra shredded for the summer

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[ha1a1]

Currently using GW + Osta as part of PCT. Its 3 weeks since commencing Osta and I am impressed to say the least. I came off the LG a bit heavier as I had cut back on cardio and increased cal intake to facilitate the strength training adaption I was aiming for. Now for the first time, after 3 weeks of picking the cardio back up, I was happy with my running. Found my stride and was able to apply a bit more effort to the run. Felt good. My golf elbows continue to improve...still a slight lingering in the left one, but a lot better than when I commenced Osta. Also I have continued to gain strength through out the PCT and I am losing fat from mid section & abs. Another thing, I had a friend at the gym comment on my overhead press improvement as I have increased it to what my pre cycle goal was. Smashed a strength plateau...always a good feeling. I will be ordering more tomo while sale is still on.



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[hurricane]

Currently using GW + Osta as part of PCT. Its 3 weeks since commencing Osta and I am impressed to say the least. I came off the LG a bit heavier as I had cut back on cardio and increased cal intake to facilitate the strength training adaption I was aiming for. Now for the first time, after 3 weeks of picking the cardio back up, I was happy with my running. Found my stride and was able to apply a bit more effort to the run. Felt good. My golf elbows continue to improve...still a slight lingering in the left one, but a lot better than when I commenced Osta. Also I have continued to gain strength through out the PCT and I am losing fat from mid section & abs. Another thing, I had a friend at the gym comment on my overhead press improvement as I have increased it to what my pre cycle goal was. Smashed a strength plateau...always a good feeling. I will be ordering more tomo while sale is still on.


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sounds like you are having some great progress,anymore updates?

 

[ha1a1]

sounds like you are having some great progress,anymore updates?

Not at the moment. Im just working on cardio and maintaining strength for now...trying to get my 5k run time down. Im waiting on more deliveries for my next run which should start at the end of April. Working out all natty atm...just a stimulant free pwo and herbal test booster.

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[Dustodrol]

Can I bridge osta with clomid for pct or is it better to bridge it with s4 after my first test e cycle? I will also be running hcg at 100iu throughout my cycle.

 

[Shrine1]

Run sarms1 ostarine in PCT with clomid, then continue to run the ostarine after PCT as a bridge if you want

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[hurricane]

Not at the moment. Im just working on cardio and maintaining strength for now...trying to get my 5k run time down. Im waiting on more deliveries for my next run which should start at the end of April. Working out all natty atm...just a stimulant free pwo and herbal test booster.

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sounds good brother.I enjoy your logs and informative posts on sarms products. i will look for them.

 

[Frankonya]

I've used Osta, and LGD and GW. Osta is the one I always seem to go back to. I've never tried S4. The cost for it ATM is enticing. I might give it a run after these 8 weeks of Osta are up. Would that be a good idea? Osta at 25mg ED for 8 weeks then an 4 week go of S4 at 50mg/day. rinse and repeat.

 

[dylangemelli]

I've used Osta, and LGD and GW. Osta is the one I always seem to go back to. I've never tried S4. The cost for it ATM is enticing. I might give it a run after these 8 weeks of Osta are up. Would that be a good idea? Osta at 25mg ED for 8 weeks then an 4 week go of S4 at 50mg/day. rinse and repeat.

your better off running them together... you should run the triple stack... here is the stack

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1-12 S4 50 mg day... split doses... 25 mg in the a.m. and 25 mg in the p.m. SARMS1.COM - The best Selective androgen receptor modulators
1-12 GW-510516 (CARDARINE) 10-20 mg day... split doses 12 hours apart SARMS1.COM - The best Selective androgen receptor modulators
5-12 HcGenerate n2bm.com
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[hurricane]

I've used Osta, and LGD and GW. Osta is the one I always seem to go back to. I've never tried S4. The cost for it ATM is enticing. I might give it a run after these 8 weeks of Osta are up. Would that be a good idea? Osta at 25mg ED for 8 weeks then an 4 week go of S4 at 50mg/day. rinse and repeat.

Run them all together! all sarms should be stacked together for best results. Except lgd and osta.If you have both of them run osta in the pct.

 

[SoCalMK6GTI]

Anyone else get tired from a particular SARM? I know it's not the Osta because I've ran it solo before. I'm leaning towards it being the S4. Not getting eye issues really but they just feel fuzzy and heavy and I think it's making me feel tired.

 

[hurricane]

Anyone else get tired from a particular SARM? I know it's not the Osta because I've ran it solo before. I'm leaning towards it being the S4. Not getting eye issues really but they just feel fuzzy and heavy and I think it's making me feel tired.

osta and gw, never.Im not a big s4 user, so maybe that is possible.

 

[SoCalMK6GTI]

osta and gw, never.Im not a big s4 user, so maybe that is possible.

Thanks! It's gotten better actually, still get fuzzy eyes but nothing we can't handle. It's usually the second dose that effects the eyes but the tiredness is passing with each day. Definitely feeling more energy and motivation in the gym. Challenging yourself with an extra set or couple of reps really intensifies the workout now.

 

[hurricane]

Thanks! It's gotten better actually, still get fuzzy eyes but nothing we can't handle. It's usually the second dose that effects the eyes but the tiredness is passing with each day. Definitely feeling more energy and motivation in the gym. Challenging yourself with an extra set or couple of reps really intensifies the workout now.

Glad to hear it is clearing up for you.Keep us updated.

 

[meathead96]

The s4 gave me some vision sides but not too bad. It just took a few seconds longer for my eyes to adjust.

 

[WolfpackAlpha]

The s4 gave me some vision sides but not too bad. It just took a few seconds longer for my eyes to adjust.

That's correct for a majority of the guys. Though, if you do have vision sides with andarine (S4), that can easily be controlled by using a proper dosing protocol. I have some clients on a 5/2 schedule with great success.

 

[RickRock13]

Slowly ramping the dosage of S4 is best for new users to assess your tolerance and reaction to vision sides.