S4 gets my vote I cant even tell Im on anything with Mk-2866, not to mention with the couple thousand bottles of SARMS that have been sold youd think wed have run into a blind person here or there, yet its just not the case at this point yet. Believe it or not my vision has slightly improved since my last visit to the eye doctor. Go figure.
how long and at what does are you using with mk-2866 osta?

No bro, OSTA is purely anabolic.sweet i just ordered the OSTA sarms just to compare with S4... kinda wished I got the S4 now though! Is OSTA just meant to burn body fat a bit better? wondering whether I should email them and check...
i just ordered a bottle of osta- gamer is right ( gamer its schwell btw)
OSTA is purely anabolic- thus its fat burning/muscle building properties are better than s4- well s4 will lean you out more
but for muscle preservation while on a cut or recomp- s1 or osta
im even going to start a recomp my 3rd week of pct cause i will be on osta
not going to loose any mass there
ur crazy dude- im going to do something similar LOL
Going to use s1 for a recomp in pct plus another month outside of pct take a month off then hop on s4 to recomp with it
take a month off
cut with epi/katana
i am a beast
Cant beat sarms s4 imo!
can you cut bf on S4 without losing muscle mass one month after finishing PCT? with a calorie deficient diet or keto no carb diet?
Yes, you could.
Which would you reccomend...
Less calories with more cardio
Keto or carb cycle with more cardio
Maintenance calories with more cardio IMO...
And use need2slin, no joke, no lie, that shit is the bomb, even on a bulk..
Someone mentioned that Stacking the both would be counter-productive as they compete for the same receptor? Is there any substance to this statement?
Someone mentioned that Stacking the both would be counter-productive as they compete for the same receptor? Is there any substance to this statement?
totally false! I have ran Both ,come this sumer i will be running both together.![]()
Will be logging OSTA as a introduction of myself to the board. Seems Iike this is the place to be for SARM discussion. Just ordered today along with some more whey and casein.
Been running noxplode as a preworkout. In terms of pumps, would running a nitric oxide pre workout supp, and osta be counter productive during my workout? I also may run some testforce 2 as ive been having great results with that already.... Without suppression it seems Ike running DAA and OSTA might be a great combo. Let me know what you guys think.
y u liking s4 better?please epxlain
y u liking s4 better?please epxlain
Already ran s4... had no side effects, am about to buy another bottle after i buy my test.. I like the s4 because it is more anabolic, what do the rest of you think?
what are peoples opinions on using s4 as an aid during pct? I read somewhere that the dose should be lowered to around 20-30, and that it is effective in helping one to keep gains from an aas cycle. I also read that s4 needs its own light pct? kind of confused...
Both OSTA and S4 are ideal for PCT, although they can be administered concomitantly with AAS. It is akin to running IGF-1-LR3 with GHRP-2 for example, as an ancillary method to retain the newly realized muscle mass. There has been some speculation and from what I've heard even blood work, that shows a slight suppressive effect from SARMS SEARCH's products, but it is minimal and reversible.
I have used both in pct
Both OSTA and S4 are ideal for PCT, although they can be administered concomitantly with AAS. It is akin to running IGF-1-LR3 with GHRP-2 for example, as an ancillary method to retain the newly realized muscle mass. There has been some speculation and from what I've heard even blood work, that shows a slight suppressive effect from SARMS SEARCH's products, but it is minimal and reversible.
My vote went to S4. Downside was I got the yellow vision despite vitamin a, lutein and bilberry. Increased vascularity, strength was up a little above natural, same with size.
Osta, I can't say it did anything. Maybe it did, but i didn't notice.
My vote went to S4. Downside was I got the yellow vision despite vitamin a, lutein and bilberry. Increased vascularity, strength was up a little above natural, same with size.
Osta, I can't say it did anything. Maybe it did, but i didn't notice.
I love the Osta at 25mgs ed!
On the combo now and LOVING it.
I think both compounds have their strengths over the other. Its hard to say one is better than the other. It just depends on your goal.
Ostarine is better at building muscle and is not nearly as suppressive as S-4 in my experience, which makes it ideal for PCT. It also is pretty much side effect free.
S-4 is much better at strength gains and fat loss, which is mostly in part to it being more androgenic. Unfortunately it does have the vision side effects with it along with being more suppressive.
They are both great, and I do use them both. The most important thing would be to buy from a reputable company like SarmsSearch. I wonder about some of the lesser known companies.
thanks for the reply rick & i did order the ostarine from sarmsearch on oct 3 but 2 weeks later i still haven't got it
My problem with S4 its superssiveness...that is it! If it wasn't then I would stack with Osta and run it foreva!!!!!!
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ok, just checked the mail & it has come through[so, no more whining] - yes!
ok, just checked the mail & it has come through[so, no more whining] - yes!
FOr the record for those who want to stack both, Osta has about a 24 hour half life, which means as long as you are taking it every day, it doesn't really matter when you take it. S4 on the other hand has a shorter half life, which is why it was originally recommended to split the dose.
As far as competeing for the same receptors
Osta is more anabolic where as the S4 is more androgenic.
As far as them hitting the same receptors, I believe I've heard the opposite, which makes sense as Osta is more anabolic whereas the S4 is more androgenic. But again, the caveat that I don't have a true background in this stuff, just repeating what I've read.
I like sarms s4 for from Sarms Search only. Love the hardening effect.
Oddly the vision sides have been sparce and random. I'm at S4 75mg 3 dosings of 25 at 600am, noon, and 6pm so it's at decent levels all day, but the weird psychadelics kick in at random. I take Sundays off only right now. I hadn't had the weird vision effect for 3 days and then walking into a dim conference room after standing oustide for 20 min it got all trippy again for a minute. But I had gone through the same conditions multiple times for days and that hadn't happened. And to me its not like nightvision its like 1 part night vision, 1 part vision on shrooms, 1 part dirty ambervision glasses but it only last about 1 maybe 2 minutes for me. At 75mg/day i think it's very tolerable.
And I'm just killing it in the gym, don't want to stop.
Oddly the vision sides have been sparce and random. I'm at S4 75mg 3 dosings of 25 at 600am, noon, and 6pm so it's at decent levels all day, but the weird psychadelics kick in at random. I take Sundays off only right now. I hadn't had the weird vision effect for 3 days and then walking into a dim conference room after standing oustide for 20 min it got all trippy again for a minute. But I had gone through the same conditions multiple times for days and that hadn't happened. And to me its not like nightvision its like 1 part night vision, 1 part vision on shrooms, 1 part dirty ambervision glasses but it only last about 1 maybe 2 minutes for me. At 75mg/day i think it's very tolerable.
And I'm just killing it in the gym, don't want to stop.
Oddly the vision sides have been sparce and random. I'm at S4 75mg 3 dosings of 25 at 600am, noon, and 6pm so it's at decent levels all day, but the weird psychadelics kick in at random. I take Sundays off only right now. I hadn't had the weird vision effect for 3 days and then walking into a dim conference room after standing oustide for 20 min it got all trippy again for a minute. But I had gone through the same conditions multiple times for days and that hadn't happened. And to me its not like nightvision its like 1 part night vision, 1 part vision on shrooms, 1 part dirty ambervision glasses but it only last about 1 maybe 2 minutes for me. At 75mg/day i think it's very tolerable.
And I'm just killing it in the gym, don't want to stop.
What if you stack all three? How would that work. How many mgs each?
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Agreed...can't beat the quality of SSs4 from sarms search for me
Sarmssearch is all I use now. I will never go back now that I know what good shit this is!
You read my mind - I've tried the rest, now I stick with the best. Sarmssearch is the way to go and all I'll ever use in the future.
Even though this poll is old its still good.
My 2 cents - I've had better results with S4, even bulking. But complete lack of sideeffects makes OSTA very appealing.....
I'd say if you can handle the sides, S4 is the way to go.
Actually, the sides from sarmssearch S4 are way less pronounced, even at a higher dose. Now some people would think this is because the product isn't strong, but don't let that fool you.
When the powder is more pure and mixed with a higher concentration in a sterile suspension, the androgenic effects are much more pronounced and the sides such as tinted vision are drastically reduced.
I love osta so much after it solved my rotator issue in my shoulder, but nothing tops sarmsearch S4 in terms of a flat out fat shredding, androgenic boosting kick. I feel so fkn pumped on S4, every workout is so killer, and when I stack it with osta I have to keep reminding myself that I DID kill it, I just recovered faster!
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Actually, the sides from sarmssearch S4 are way less pronounced, even at a higher dose. Now some people would think this is because the product isn't strong, but don't let that fool you.
When the powder is more pure and mixed with a higher concentration in a sterile suspension, the androgenic effects are much more pronounced and the sides such as tinted vision are drastically reduced.
I love osta so much after it solved my rotator issue in my shoulder, but nothing tops sarmsearch S4 in terms of a flat out fat shredding, androgenic boosting kick. I feel so fkn pumped on S4, every workout is so killer, and when I stack it with osta I have to keep reminding myself that I DID kill it, I just recovered faster!
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Exactly rick, I can get better results with SS because of how high I can run the dose before sides kick in
On my rats, of course.
They love the triple stack! An 8 week run is so sweet! Feeling strong and pumped all day is awesome
I know the feeling, SS sarms are my Sarms of choice - wont run anything else
osta sarms @sarmssearch all the way.. s4 bothers my eyes alittle to much, not a huge fan of it, for that reason and that reason only.I hear s4 works great though
Your rat's name is My too?
The S4 sides are def dose and rat dependent...good thing about them though is the fact that they go away quickly as soon as they stop taking it.
My rats have never tried Osta, will be giving them a round of it from SS in the future for sure.
i am going to give s4 another run soon(because i hear such good things about it) at very low dosage and ramp up if possible.I used s4, when it first came out and the info availble on it wasnt top notch, so i dont think i ran it as well as i could have.
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