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gorillahung

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My state has an open carry law where no permit is required to carry a hand gun provided it's holstered and in "plain view". I'm thinking of getting a license to carry concealed so I can keep a gun in my car hidden. We have to apply with the county sheriff's office. I had a CC permit a long time ago but it expired. Back then I had to see a judge to get it.

This will give me an excuse to spend more money on a new gun, LOL.
 
miplank said:
you don't need a permit to carry a gun in your car either as long as it's not within reach.
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this.


how else would you transfer weapons around? it's state to state i'm sure, but here the only condition is that it can't be loaded in your vehicle if you don't have a CCW.
 
redshirt27se said:
this.
how else would you transfer weapons around? it's state to state i'm sure, but here the only condition is that it can't be loaded in your vehicle if you don't have a CCW.
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I think in my state it must be in a case and the ammo must be stored in a different location. I want to keep mine loaded and under my seat or in the console.
 
redshirt27se said:
should've known. texas has some real loose gun laws. i'm pretty sure every other state is going to require a CCW for a loaded firearm under the seat or in the center console.
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Pretty sure florida is same as texas. We actually honor the 2nd amendment around these parts.
 
redshirt27se said:
should've known. texas has some real loose gun laws. i'm pretty sure every other state is going to require a CCW for a loaded firearm under the seat or in the center console.
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So I guess their gun crime rate is out of control, correct? I bet people are shooting each other left and right.

:p
 
mrplunkey said:
So I guess their gun crime rate is out of control, correct? I bet people are shooting each other left and right.

:p
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i had to ground my handgun recently since it snuck out the window the other night, met up with its assault rifle friends, got drunk and started killing peeps
 
superdave said:
i had to ground my handgun recently since it snuck out the window the other night, met up with its assault rifle friends, got drunk and started killing peeps
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You texans just need more federal government. That would put and end to that shizzle.
 
mrplunkey said:
You texans just need more federal government. That would put and end to that shizzle.
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We obviously need fed intervention. Im thinking the 9th Circuit court could explain to us dumb texans how all the amendments are individual rights except the 2nd. Duh its so obvious
 
gorillahung said:
My state has an open carry law where no permit is required to carry a hand gun provided it's holstered and in "plain view". I'm thinking of getting a license to carry concealed so I can keep a gun in my car hidden. We have to apply with the county sheriff's office. I had a CC permit a long time ago but it expired. Back then I had to see a judge to get it.

This will give me an excuse to spend more money on a new gun, LOL.
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You don't strike me as the type that should be carrying a gun. Mentally I just don't think you're able to connect all the dots upstairs.
 
wow, I cant believe u can do that just like that, in other countries you need to pass a mental evaluation, I was actually part of the few people authorized to examine others.... I guess I wont be doing that here :(
 
nangiggles said:
wow, I cant believe u can do that just like that, in other countries you need to pass a mental evaluation, I was actually part of the few people authorized to examine others.... I guess I wont be doing that here :(
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In some states you need to obtain a letter that shows you've never been institutionalized.
 
I don't wish to shoot anyone. I just want a gun for protection. Puds, I have shot a glock before a few times. I like big boy guns. :)
 
PhoenixS said:
I don't wish to shoot anyone. I just want a gun for protection. Puds, I have shot a glock before a few times. I like big boy guns. :)
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There are plenty of revolvers that are big boy guns. Honestly a revolver is the way to go as far as handguns for personal protection. If you need to use it you WILL be in a state of panic. With a semi-auto you might forget to disengage the safety, forget to chamber a round, it could jam, etc. A revolver is better as it's just point and squeeze the trigger.

I have a .38 snub nose revolver. I don't consider it to be a "sissy" gun by any means although any woman would be capable of shooting it. It's reliable and easy to shoot.

Of course for home protection, nothing is better than a shotgun provided there are a few feet between you and your target.
 
PhoenixS said:
I don't wish to shoot anyone. I just want a gun for protection. Puds, I have shot a glock before a few times. I like big boy guns. :)
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That's all fine and dandy, but in a panic are you going to remember to chamber a round first, or remove the safety if one's already chambered? Out and about shooting relaxed is one thing, in a life or death situation most people would fail to fire the gun in time.
 
gorillahung said:
There are plenty of revolvers that are big boy guns. Honestly a revolver is the way to go as far as handguns for personal protection. If you need to use it you WILL be in a state of panic. With a semi-auto you might forget to disengage the safety, forget to chamber a round, it could jam, etc. A revolver is better as it's just point and squeeze the trigger.

I have a .38 snub nose revolver. I don't consider it to be a "sissy" gun by any means although any woman would be capable of shooting it. It's reliable and easy to shoot.

Of course for home protection, nothing is better than a shotgun provided there are a few feet between you and your target.
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phaggete, I had to answer the phone in the middle of my reply.
 
PuddleMonkey said:
You don't strike me as the type that should be carrying a gun. Mentally I just don't think you're able to connect all the dots upstairs.
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Thank you for the online psychiatric evaluation. Although I suffer from post traumatic stress disorder due to a baseball hitting me in the testicles, my mental health has been improving greatly. I've gotten a lot better just from having my new nephew.
 
PuddleMonkey said:
That's all fine and dandy, but in a panic are you going to remember to chamber a round first, or remove the safety if one's already chambered? Out and about shooting relaxed is one thing, in a life or death situation most people would fail to fire the gun in time.
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Good point. I hate saying this to you... you are right.
 
wow things sure are different in Canada

even after you get a gun license, you are not allowed to take the gun out of the house unless you call the cops before hand, then they will tell you what route you can take when you have a gun on hand...lol
 
the_alcatraz said:
wow things sure are different in Canada

even after you get a gun license, you are not allowed to take the gun out of the house unless you call the cops before hand, then they will tell you what route you can take when you have a gun on hand...lol
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LOL @ gun license.


buying a gun here is as simple as having the money to afford it.
 
PuddleMonkey said:
That's all fine and dandy, but in a panic are you going to remember to chamber a round first, or remove the safety if one's already chambered? Out and about shooting relaxed is one thing, in a life or death situation most people would fail to fire the gun in time.
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Don't really have to worry about the safety if she's going with a DAO type weapon.

Then again, I personally don't like keeping them chambered at all times.

Doesn't take that long to pull the slide to chamber a round.
 
miplank said:
Don't really have to worry about the safety if she's going with a DAO type weapon.

Then again, I personally don't like keeping them chambered at all times.

Doesn't take that long to pull the slide to chamber a round.
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I always keep one chambered. You might not have time to rack the slide in a rush.
 
Standard self defense tactics are round in the chamber always, safety on. All the better if you carry a glock as theres no external safety to fuck with. In emergency you either arent going to think of racking the slide or you wont have time. If you dont feel comfortable carrying with a round in the chamber you are simply adding an extra step in the emergency self defense process, and therefore adding more risk to your life. If you can deal with that more power to you but i personally like every edge i can get since its my ass on the line in the event i have to draw down.
 
If you have a gun and you carry it in public...

Under what circumstances would you use it? For self-defense? Against what? If somebody is a threat to you? If somebody is just being a really big asshole? Are you prepared to kill somebody?

I don't know anybody who carries a gun down here, except law enforcement and some hardcore crims.

I couldn't imagine killing somebody myself.





b0und (don't need a gun when no-one else has one)
 
By law in my state.....

-Trying to protect yourself or another person from death or serious bodily harm;

-Trying to prevent a forcible felony, such as rape, robbery, burglary or kidnapping.

Carrying is a giant responsibility. It's not something to take lightly and it's not for everyone.
 
SouthernLord said:
By law in my state.....

-Trying to protect yourself or another person from death or serious bodily harm;

-Trying to prevent a forcible felony, such as rape, robbery, burglary or kidnapping.

Carrying is a giant responsibility. It's not something to take lightly and it's not for everyone.
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Same for texas and edited to add defense of property.
 
In Illinois, you are required to have a Firearm Owners Identification Card on you at all times you are transporting a weapon.


I think this is the worst state as far as strict gun laws. A CC is not legal in this state :(
 
Considering how common road rage, dui and just drunken violence are I think it's a good thing people don't carry guns down here. People would end up shooting each other all the time.

Those forcible felonies, rape, robbery and kidnapping are very rare here. Burglary may be more common, but our murder rate hovers around 1 per 100,000. Car accidents, work accidents and hospital errors all kill far more people each.






b0und (crime isn't something we worry about really)
 
b0und said:
Considering how common road rage, dui and just drunken violence are I think it's a good thing people don't carry guns down here. People would end up shooting each other all the time.
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With the high Asian population here I have road rage all the time... never once was my gun drawn nor even in the thought process of being drawn.
 
Having a gun does not determine your actions. Your character and the needs of the situation determine the actions.
 
b0und said:
If you have a gun and you carry it in public...

Under what circumstances would you use it? For self-defense? Against what? If somebody is a threat to you? If somebody is just being a really big asshole? Are you prepared to kill somebody?

I don't know anybody who carries a gun down here, except law enforcement and some hardcore crims.

I couldn't imagine killing somebody myself.

b0und (don't need a gun when no-one else has one)
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Where do you live? At my previous residence there were four murders within 2 blocks of my home in the three month span before I moved the fuck away from that hood. Three of the murders were between people who knew their killer but one was a random victim shot by a car thief. With incidents this common, good people want to have the ability to protect themselves and loved ones. Unfortunately, that's life in certain parts of the USA.

When I had my old permit and carried a gun, I always found myself much more calm even if someone tried to mess with me or verbally threatened me. I would quickly turn the other cheek. That doesn't mean I was a pussy, I was simply doing everything I could to AVOID having to draw my weapon. Someone could be a total prick to me and I would ignore it. When you know that you have the power to easily kill someone, it's much easier to ignore someone that's being an asshole. You do not ever want to take your weapon out of the holster unless it is ABSOLUTELY necessary.
 
gorillahung said:
Where do you live? At my previous residence there were four murders within 2 blocks of my home in the three month span before I moved the fuck away from that hood. Three of the murders were between people who knew their killer but one was a random victim shot by a car thief. With incidents this common, good people want to have the ability to protect themselves and loved ones. Unfortunately, that's life in certain parts of the USA.

When I had my old permit and carried a gun, I always found myself much more calm even if someone tried to mess with me or verbally threatened me. I would quickly turn the other cheek. That doesn't mean I was a pussy, I was simply doing everything I could to AVOID having to draw my weapon. Someone could be a total prick to me and I would ignore it. When you know that you have the power to easily kill someone, it's much easier to ignore someone that's being an asshole. You do not ever want to take your weapon out of the holster unless it is ABSOLUTELY necessary.
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Well put rob
 
Well, in Canada if you have some breaking and entering and then they slip in your house, they can sue you and make money

if they attack you after they break into your house, you have no right to shoot them, thats accessive force

I dont even know when you have the right to use a frickin gum
 
gorillahung said:
Where do you live?
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Australia

gorillahung said:
At my previous residence there were four murders within 2 blocks of my home in the three month span before I moved the fuck away from that hood. Three of the murders were between people who knew their killer but one was a random victim shot by a car thief. With incidents this common, good people want to have the ability to protect themselves and loved ones. Unfortunately, that's life in certain parts of the USA.
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When I was younger I lived in the roughest part of my city. Cars would get broken into all the time, including mine. But nobody EVER used a gun.

Violence between folks wouldn't be more than a punch up. I don't think any car thief in my city ever used a gun. A car jacking would be a huge news event here.

gorillahung said:
When you know that you have the power to easily kill someone, it's much easier to ignore someone that's being an asshole. You do not ever want to take your weapon out of the holster unless it is ABSOLUTELY necessary.
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I think you would be the exception, there are a whole bunch of people I can think of who I would not trust owning a gun AT ALL. Including people I work with, lots of hot heads and short fuses out there. The presence of guns in a society and the ever present potential for deadly violence destroys a lot of natural calm and relaxed atmosphere in my opinion.

I am glad a lot of the idiots I am surrounded with on a daily basis don't have guns to be honest.




b0und (Aussie, relax mate!)
 
gorillahung said:
You do not ever want to take your weapon out of the holster unless it is ABSOLUTELY necessary.
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When exactly is that?

When somebody aggressively approaches your car?

When they hit your car with a baseball bat?

When they hit you with a baseball bat?

When they just throw a punch?

When somebody steals your wallet and is trying to run away?

What gives a gun owner who is not a law enforcement officer the right to decide when to use deadly violence in public?

I can think of a whole lot of scenarios where I may be threatened or even harmed but would not be justified in killing somebody.





b0und (not a pacifist, but I really don't want to kill somebody)
 
You don't need a gun. If nefarious beings approach you, simply throw a handful of apricot seeds. They can not continue to pursue you until they've picked them all up.

Apricot seeds may save your life.
 
b0und said:
When exactly is that?

When somebody aggressively approaches your car?

When they hit your car with a baseball bat?

When they hit you with a baseball bat?

When they just throw a punch?

When somebody steals your wallet and is trying to run away?

What gives a gun owner who is not a law enforcement officer the right to decide when to use deadly violence in public?

I can think of a whole lot of scenarios where I may be threatened or even harmed but would not be justified in killing somebody.


b0und (not a pacifist, but I really don't want to kill somebody)
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See the problem with that statement "someone who is not a law enforcement officer"...requires you to have a belief that the Law enforcement officers are ANY better than your average person. Most LE's are power happy and abuse their power anyways. We just had an issue at College Park in Maryland where police got caught on tape beating down some students, unprovoked. If these power happy pricks can have guns, the average person should be able to have some form of protection as well. If someone swings at you with their fists then YES it is excessive force to then shoot them, but if they are beating you to the point they are trying to kill you, they are swinging a knife at you, or yes, smashing you with a baseball bat, you probably WONT HAVE TO SHOOT THEM, but pulling a gun on them, if they dont have one, will probably make them stop and run away. Most of the time, once the people learn that you can easily end things, they will either stop, surrender, or run. Just because you have to PULL your gun, doesn't mean you have to fire it. Obviously you should never shoot someone that is running away, shooting someone in the back is one of the most cowardly things you can do. If all criminals know that EVERYONE is an easy target and that no one can fight back, it would be a happy place for all criminals, they would really have no worries. Giving the people a right to protect themselves in this day in age is almost a requirement in some places.

-Legacy
 
b0und said:
When exactly is that?

When somebody aggressively approaches your car?

When they hit your car with a baseball bat?

When they hit you with a baseball bat?

When they just throw a punch?

When somebody steals your wallet and is trying to run away?

What gives a gun owner who is not a law enforcement officer the right to decide when to use deadly violence in public?

I can think of a whole lot of scenarios where I may be threatened or even harmed but would not be justified in killing somebody.





b0und (not a pacifist, but I really don't want to kill somebody)
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And how exactly would LE know either?

As a matter of fact, since many victims know their attacker I could easily argue that LE may be in a much worse position to make those decisions.
 
DJLegacy2k1 said:
See the problem with that statement "someone who is not a law enforcement officer"...requires you to have a belief that the Law enforcement officers are ANY better than your average person. Most LE's are power happy and abuse their power anyways. We just had an issue at College Park in Maryland where police got caught on tape beating down some students, unprovoked. If these power happy pricks can have guns, the average person should be able to have some form of protection as well. If someone swings at you with their fists then YES it is excessive force to then shoot them, but if they are beating you to the point they are trying to kill you, they are swinging a knife at you, or yes, smashing you with a baseball bat, you probably WONT HAVE TO SHOOT THEM, but pulling a gun on them, if they dont have one, will probably make them stop and run away. Most of the time, once the people learn that you can easily end things, they will either stop, surrender, or run. Just because you have to PULL your gun, doesn't mean you have to fire it. Obviously you should never shoot someone that is running away, shooting someone in the back is one of the most cowardly things you can do. If all criminals know that EVERYONE is an easy target and that no one can fight back, it would be a happy place for all criminals, they would really have no worries. Giving the people a right to protect themselves in this day in age is almost a requirement in some places.

-Legacy
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If I am ever forced to pull my gun in self defense I will most definitely fire. Drawing your weapon is the last line of defense. Luckily since I've been carrying I have not had to think twice about drawing my weapon.
 
chewyxrage said:
In Illinois, you are required to have a Firearm Owners Identification Card on you at all times you are transporting a weapon.


I think this is the worst state as far as strict gun laws. A CC is not legal in this state :(
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I think MA is pry the worst..
 
SouthernLord said:
I really want an ultra carry 2

http://www.friendsofnra.org/images/national/2009merchandise/500px-images/Freedom_Ultra_Carry1-lg.JPG
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Get it! you won't be sorry! I have a royal II the best handgun I ever shot.
The grips are narrow and have small hands so it works out perfect.
Plus i shot 200 rounds never back-fired once, never have to worry about jamming.

I don't know much about the ultra 2, but I'll bet the farm it's a bad ass gun.

I paid 1000$ for mine worth every penny, you can conceal them real well, and
their light so if you get put on the spot you can draw with ease.

Real cisp and accurate shot 2 thumbs up.i shot sigs, colts, springfields IMO don't
even come close.
 
Lotsa mean-spirited gun-toting conservatism up in this piece.

Just sayin'
 
DJLegacy2k1 said:
See the problem with that statement "someone who is not a law enforcement officer"...requires you to have a belief that the Law enforcement officers are ANY better than your average person. Most LE's are power happy and abuse their power anyways. We just had an issue at College Park in Maryland where police got caught on tape beating down some students, unprovoked. If these power happy pricks can have guns, the average person should be able to have some form of protection as well. If someone swings at you with their fists then YES it is excessive force to then shoot them, but if they are beating you to the point they are trying to kill you, they are swinging a knife at you, or yes, smashing you with a baseball bat, you probably WONT HAVE TO SHOOT THEM, but pulling a gun on them, if they dont have one, will probably make them stop and run away. Most of the time, once the people learn that you can easily end things, they will either stop, surrender, or run. Just because you have to PULL your gun, doesn't mean you have to fire it. Obviously you should never shoot someone that is running away, shooting someone in the back is one of the most cowardly things you can do. If all criminals know that EVERYONE is an easy target and that no one can fight back, it would be a happy place for all criminals, they would really have no worries. Giving the people a right to protect themselves in this day in age is almost a requirement in some places.

-Legacy
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So many things wrong with this post I don't even know where to start.
 
mrplunkey said:
Lotsa mean-spirited gun-toting conservatism up in this piece.

Just sayin'
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lol



I'm too lazy to argue my point, society is different down here. If you carried a gun in public 99.9% of all people here would think you are fucking crazy or you're a criminal.

So, if nobody has a gun - self-defense is relatively easy against no more than 2 or 3 people.





b0und (still don't need a gun)
 
DJLegacy2k1 said:
See the problem with that statement "someone who is not a law enforcement officer"...requires you to have a belief that the Law enforcement officers are ANY better than your average person. Most LE's are power happy and abuse their power anyways. We just had an issue at College Park in Maryland where police got caught on tape beating down some students, unprovoked. If these power happy pricks can have guns, the average person should be able to have some form of protection as well. If someone swings at you with their fists then YES it is excessive force to then shoot them, but if they are beating you to the point they are trying to kill you, they are swinging a knife at you, or yes, smashing you with a baseball bat, you probably WONT HAVE TO SHOOT THEM, but pulling a gun on them, if they dont have one, will probably make them stop and run away. Most of the time, once the people learn that you can easily end things, they will either stop, surrender, or run. Just because you have to PULL your gun, doesn't mean you have to fire it. Obviously you should never shoot someone that is running away, shooting someone in the back is one of the most cowardly things you can do. If all criminals know that EVERYONE is an easy target and that no one can fight back, it would be a happy place for all criminals, they would really have no worries. Giving the people a right to protect themselves in this day in age is almost a requirement in some places.

-Legacy
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with posts like this it's not wonder that Baltimore is a perennial power in murders. all those scenarios you mentioned? bullshit. if you are in altercation like that and you pull a gun, that person is either going to try to disarm you and use it against you, or make you unable to use it. if i'm hitting someone with a baseball bat and they pull a gun, i'm gonna continue to hit them. why the fuck would they run? a gun fires projectiles, a bat is useful only in close combat.
 
b0und said:
lol



I'm too lazy to argue my point, society is different down here. If you carried a gun in public 99.9% of all people here would think you are fucking crazy or you're a criminal.

So, if nobody has a gun - self-defense is relatively easy against no more than 2 or 3 people.





b0und (still don't need a gun)
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You guys should make yourselves even safer by banning all knives, sharp sticks or anything that could be used as a bat/baton.

I'd come visit if I thought you aussie's were properly disarmed.
 
b0und said:
When exactly is that?

When somebody aggressively approaches your car?

When they hit your car with a baseball bat?

When they hit you with a baseball bat?

When they just throw a punch?

When somebody steals your wallet and is trying to run away?

What gives a gun owner who is not a law enforcement officer the right to decide when to use deadly violence in public?

I can think of a whole lot of scenarios where I may be threatened or even harmed but would not be justified in killing somebody.





b0und (not a pacifist, but I really don't want to kill somebody)
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The answer you are looking for is that you draw your gun when you feel that your safety or your loved one's safety is in imminent danger. It's an after the fact determination for the criminal justice system. The prosecutor will examine the facts. If the prosecutor thinks it was a bad shooting then it goes to a jury. Juries are not sympathetic to thugs. If you shoot someone that broke into your home, you will probably not be convicted.

The biggest deterrent isn't actually shooting someone. When you draw your weapon against a threatening person, that person will not likely continue their attack. That probably happens 1000 times for each time a civilian shoots someone in self defense.

As for your other comment, people who are hot heads frequently calm down when they know they have the power of lfe and death over others.
 
gorillahung said:
The answer you are looking for is that you draw your gun when you feel that your safety or your loved one's safety is in imminent danger. It's an after the fact determination for the criminal justice system. The prosecutor will examine the facts. If the prosecutor thinks it was a bad shooting then it goes to a jury. Juries are not sympathetic to thugs. If you shoot someone that broke into your home, you will probably not be convicted.

The biggest deterrent isn't actually shooting someone. When you draw your weapon against a threatening person, that person will not likely continue their attack. That probably happens 1000 times for each time a civilian shoots someone in self defense.

As for your other comment, people who are hot heads frequently calm down when they know they have the power of lfe and death over others.
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You make some very good points. But, if you or your loved ones are in a situation where death or serious bodily harm is likely to happen and you do draw your weapon, please use it. If it's well within your right to draw you should follow through and fire. Anything could happen and in that second you hesitate to use your weapon to make the situation worse. I'm not telling you to shoot someone in the back as they run away, but if someone is going to harm you please shoot them. If anything it will teach them a lesson and more than likely stop them from hurting someone else. I know for a fact if I'm ever in a situation where I have to draw my weapon it's getting used.
 
Southern, whether or not I would fire the weapon is just too situational. If the person sees me reach for my gun and turns around and runs the other way while shrieking like a little girl, I am not going to chase after him and shoot him. If he stands his ground and reaches into his pockets, I might fire a slug into his torso. It's just impossible to say before a situation how you should act.
 
southernlord said:
you make some very good points. But, if you or your loved ones are in a situation where death or serious bodily harm is likely to happen and you do draw your weapon, please use it. If it's well within your right to draw you should follow through and fire. Anything could happen and in that second you hesitate to use your weapon to make the situation worse. I'm not telling you to shoot someone in the back as they run away, but if someone is going to harm you please shoot them. If anything it will teach them a lesson and more than likely stop them from hurting someone else. I know for a fact if i'm ever in a situation where i have to draw my weapon it's getting used.
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exactly!!!!!!!
 
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