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Best cycle for a drug tested athlete?

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Leever_Shot

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Lke it says in the title, what would you reccomend for a drug tested athlete. Also to take in to consideration are things like:

Joint/Tendon Health/ Injury Prevention
Strength increase
Endurance increase
Weight class
Time to clear.

I would like to run Test E and Eq. Eq would be great because of the increase in red blood cells, the increased collagen synthesis, and relatively lean gains making it easier to stay in a weight class.however, I've seen everything from 3months to 18months for detection times, so that would probably rule it out. I want to run one more 3 month cycle before I start to compete again, and than stay clean after that. It would suck to get caught a year after coming off.

I guess ideally something like test suspension or maybe prop and GH would be run, but GH is too expensive.
What are the pros and cons to suspension? I don't hear much about it.

What are your thoughts/input?
 
I think you're right about the test suspension idea... I hear that suspension is out in 3 days test wise..

I also read Equipoise is detected a long ass time.. may want to wait for some better input on that..

Gh I don't think can be tested for.. don't some of those pro Baseballers have like size 25 feet? lol.

I am not positive on any of this, so.. something to think about as far as what I've heard and bump for someone that dodges tests :D
 
my suggestion is not to do anything that can compromise any test if you are worried about testing positive. suspension is the way to go but thats just my opinion. My preference is shorter esters/shorter cycles.
 
suspension pros/cons
pros- fast clear time. big strength and muscle gains fast.
cons- painful. ed (or more) injections
 
I would think the best thing if you are juicing, is to maybe consider competing in a federation that doesn't test?
But I'm not trying to judge, lots of people compete in tested federations and are obviously not natural...I don't even know what sport you're talking about but I know IPF is a drug tested powerlifting federation, but all natural? haha.
So, as long as you aren't going to be subjected to random testing, and you know your test date, it shouldn't be too hard to figure out. Test suspension is a good one (actually I LOVE test suspension, and think the pain is way overrated, I would use it over any other testosterone if I could still find a legitimate and safe source, but UGL suspension scares the hell outta me....btw I'm talking real water based suspension, not TNE in EO). Testosterone Acetate can be found, but not commonly, and would have a shorter detection time than prop, but longer than suspension. A lot of orals have very short detection times, but again, I don't know what sport you're referring to, so couldn't really suggest which oral you may want to consider. Lots of strength athletes like short burst cycles of halotestin...clears pretty quickly too. Anavar and Tbol can be good choices too, especially considering your desire to remain in a given weight class....they also clear fairly quickly, but not sure on the exact detection times. Again, know your test date, and plan accordingly....and if you can, give yourself a bit of extra 'clean' buffer time, just to be sure.
Unfortunately you'll probably want to stay away from EQ.
Nice thing about a short acting testosterone, is you can still have some of it in your system at test time and be okay, since testosterone is naturally occuring in your body, whereas the tiniest detectable amout of something that isn't naturally occuring in the body...like winny, var, etc, and you're hooped.
They can now test for GH, but unless you're in the olympics they probably won't, its just too expensive...and even still the detection time is a few days at most...used to be 10 hours, but they're getting better at this kind of thing.
Good luck
 
The sport is MMA. Unfortunately, there aren't any non-drug tested organizations, although testing isn't likely at the lower levels. At the same time, use is pretty prevalent and often obvious. In the near future testing won't matter, but a year from now it might. As far as testing goes, random athletes are selected on the night of the fight, but again this is pretty rare. It usually takes a request from an opponent's camp for it to happen. At the same time, although it isn't a huge concern, I'd rather have something that clears relatively quickly.
 
Yeah I wouldn't suggest any nandrolone, even NPP, but for your purposes, a Test Prop/Anavar cycle might be just the thing. You could sub tbol for the var. I would stay away from winny, just because it might make you a bit prone to injury. Test P and Tren A might be another option.
Like I said, if you know the date that you become subject to testing, it is easy to plan for.
 
Thanks for the help. It looks like Test Prop and Tbol might be the way to go. Anavar sounds awesome but too expensive. Tren A is intriguing as well, but I think I would need to do a lot more reading up on it to make sure I was prepared for the sides. Know of any "Tren for dummies" or "everything you wanted to know abotu tren" type threads?

At any rate, how would you dose either cycle; Test prop and Tbol / and Test Prop and Tren A?
 
careful with tren...its one of those AAS products they warn you about.

You should carefully research the information for a good amount of time before trying it. Make sure you do it with test......that's an absolute.
 
I like to hear people say they are going to do research before taking the plunge. good job bro. If I was you and aiming to stay ina weight class, I would use anavar mainly for the strength gains.
 
What kind of a difference is there in strength gains between anavar and t-bol?

Whatever I decide on will be my second cycle. Earlier this year I ran Test E at 500mg/wk shot twice a week at 250mg. It went great. Ended up keeping about 10lbs and didn't lose any of the strength I gained while one. Had no problems with sides and felt great the entire time. I wasn't competing, so detection wasn't an issue at the time.
 
Anavar will be better for strength than Tbol.. Take like 10grams of creatine while on it, watch your strength start kicking ass..

Better than Anavar though would be Halotestin.......I knew a pride fighter that took that and a shit load of other things....he was so god damn strong.....

He broke a guys FEMUR with a roundhouse kick......

but his piss was like coca cola dark.. he will probably die soon..
 
I have never tried tbol. Anavar is a classic mild steroid that will usually give strength with no wieght gain pending a persons diet stays the same. I would suggest 80 mg/day but maybe start out at 40 and work your way up. But for some reason I got bloody noses 3 times a day while on, sore joints and no appettite.
 
Test suspension works wonders i love the stuff. I too am a drug tested athlete (or soon will be) ive been using test suspension and before the season starts, EPO.
The reason EQ increases endurance is it induces the body to produce more epo thus increasing red blood cell count and endurance.
The best part is theres no test for epo and the test suspension clears the system in a few days
 
slimjim1985 said:
I have never tried tbol. Anavar is a classic mild steroid that will usually give strength with no wieght gain pending a persons diet stays the same. I would suggest 80 mg/day but maybe start out at 40 and work your way up. But for some reason I got bloody noses 3 times a day while on, sore joints and no appettite.
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you got sore joints from anavar?

I got sore joints and hips from winny. was horrible for kickboxing....since I switched to anavar, I noticed a nice increase in strength and my hips are much much looser. I feel a lot better kickboxing and training jiu-jitsu.
 
GH, IGF-1 and test suspension.
 
Nomadic Dreamer said:
you got sore joints from anavar?

I got sore joints and hips from winny. was horrible for kickboxing....since I switched to anavar, I noticed a nice increase in strength and my hips are much much looser. I feel a lot better kickboxing and training jiu-jitsu.
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sure did. funny I never got sore joints off winny tho and i've done a winny only.
 
no fellas. I probably should of included that i was running a low dose of letro at the time. probably was a main factor in my joints, but regardless I wasn't a fan of var . I injected winny btw. So no one has gotten sore joints(shoulders)from var only then? i swear i'm not crazy
 
I just switched from winny to var in the recent weeks.

My sore joints finally loosened up. My hips, knees, elbows, etc all feel a lot better.

I was starting to get small injuries quite often as well, which I suspect may have been due to winny use. I was using it for a while anyways and I was only doing about 50mg ED. I would have fallen apart at 100 mg per day.
 
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