I got a email so thought I would come here to get the whole skinny on the situation, but can't seem to find any threads on it. So what the dealio?
i doubt it.
. I actually stocked up earlier in the year with Beastdrol but not Bolan.Yes when I sell out of the products that will be it. I am coming out with a whole bunch of new products though. Be looking out for a whole lot of new stuff coming out from needtobuildmuscle.com
needto can you give us any info on some of the new products you got in the works?
are you being forced to discontinue?
R.I.P. Beast!Damn! At least I can say I was one of the proud few who experienced the Beast.
Needto, are you still going to be carrying the Forged products? Thanks.
This goes for all the designer supps then, right? BTW, I don't blame you needto. Smart of you IMO.
Pretty much yes. The bill is in and awaiting approval but it looks like the fda is not waiting on it to pass ether.
These compounds are legal but banned? or going to be illegal and right now illegal to sell? If one were to stock up e.g. beastdrol... is it going to be a schedule III next month or a couple years from now? I don't follow legal stuff .
edit: sort of answered in the other thread
I know needto is winding down his stuff but when does this FDA list kick in? Curious since it's going to kill products from other vendors also.
Smart move. I'm ready for some of your new protein products. Sure to be kick ass!If you look around you will notice I am not the only one taking early action on this.

No offense, but this sounds like a marketing ploy to me, just like everything Need2 does. Google "Beastdrol" and visit all of the other bodybuilding forums that beastdrol is mentioned on. In EVERY SINGLE THREAD, a brand new poster pops up with '1' total post, (usually with the name Pawn or Need2 or similar) and pumps up beastdrol and makes up some fairytale account of how he is a 22 year old that just had incredible results off of beastdrol.
Honestly, I was going to order some of Need2's gear but after seeing his very invasive marketing techniques, I tend not to trust him. I have yet to see a pictorial of someone who did a beastdrol cycle, but I've read plenty of posts by Need2 masking his identity to make up stories about his gear on plenty of other sites.
If your gear is legit, get some people to post pictorials, like P90X. Give away a couple bottles in exchange for people posting weekly results. Sorry bro, you just don't appear that believable to me.

No offense, but this sounds like a marketing ploy to me, just like everything Need2 does. Google "Beastdrol" and visit all of the other bodybuilding forums that beastdrol is mentioned on. In EVERY SINGLE THREAD, a brand new poster pops up with '1' total post, (usually with the name Pawn or Need2 or similar) and pumps up beastdrol and makes up some fairytale account of how he is a 22 year old that just had incredible results off of beastdrol.
Honestly, I was going to order some of Need2's gear but after seeing his very invasive marketing techniques, I tend not to trust him. I have yet to see a pictorial of someone who did a beastdrol cycle, but I've read plenty of posts by Need2 masking his identity to make up stories about his gear on plenty of other sites.
If your gear is legit, get some people to post pictorials, like P90X. Give away a couple bottles in exchange for people posting weekly results. Sorry bro, you just don't appear that believable to me.
http://www.elitefitness.com/forum/bodybuilding-supplements/real-deal-654363.html
http://www.elitefitness.com/forum/bodybuilding-supplements/2-wks-beastdrol-650755.html
http://www.elitefitness.com/forum/bodybuilding-supplements/diesel-tren-stack-food-log-655860.html
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http://www.elitefitness.com/forum/bodybuilding-supplements/diesel-legit-658087.html
http://www.elitefitness.com/forum/b...beastdrol-tren-tfo-results-thread-650364.html
http://www.elitefitness.com/forum/bodybuilding-supplements/beastdrol-way-643133.html
http://www.elitefitness.com/forum/bodybuilding-supplements/dieselbolan-643871.html
http://www.elitefitness.com/forum/b...lbolan-19-tren-tfo-review-results-654689.html
http://www.elitefitness.com/forum/b...ne-actually-seen-these-supps-work-643217.html
http://www.elitefitness.com/forum/bodybuilding-supplements/beastrdrol-update-651296.html
http://www.elitefitness.com/forum/b...ts/beastdrol-19-tren-tfo-epistane-656678.html
http://www.elitefitness.com/forum/bodybuilding-supplements/beastdrol-king-650127.html
http://www.elitefitness.com/forum/bodybuilding-supplements/my-review-beastdrol-646937.html
http://www.elitefitness.com/forum/b...ieselbolen-beastdrol-stack-review-650953.html
http://www.elitefitness.com/forum/anabolic-steroids/beastdrol-review-some-questions-653435.html
Man There is so many I am losing track of them all.
Anyway you see I am so good and I have so much power. I am god. I went and a made alters starting as far back as 2001 or so, I was not even on the site then as needto but I waqs making alters from then till now because I new some day I was going to use them all for a massive marketing campaign. I use all this alters and I post 24 hours a day. I stay up by smoking crack and sniffing lines. Half of elite is not even real they are all just alters of me.
I am also magical and I can post using all these accounts at one. I can talk to myself with 10 different alters at a time and make 10 page threads with 20 different accounts that are all just me.
But wait there is more. I am also so damn rich that anyone one the site that is not me is just on my pay role. No one even buys my products I just hand them out for free to all my employees,pay people to talk good about them or spend every waking our of my lide using 50000 different alters to talk about the products.
So I guess that means I am not only rich but prob a bit crazy to. because if I was rich wtf would I be doing all this for. O hell wtf do I know. Its all done by needto green magic some how. I am not even real I am just a bot ya thats what I am a bot embeded in the ef system that makes 50 alters a day since the beginning of the sites creation I have been here. I am the fucking matrix.
Did I forget to say I also do this on 3-4 other sites full time and a fe others part time. Peace.
Let's not forget that all your alters can magically spell correctly too.![]()


No offense, but this sounds like a marketing ploy to me, just like everything Need2 does. Google "Beastdrol" and visit all of the other bodybuilding forums that beastdrol is mentioned on. In EVERY SINGLE THREAD, a brand new poster pops up with '1' total post, (usually with the name Pawn or Need2 or similar) and pumps up beastdrol and makes up some fairytale account of how he is a 22 year old that just had incredible results off of beastdrol.
Honestly, I was going to order some of Need2's gear but after seeing his very invasive marketing techniques, I tend not to trust him. I have yet to see a pictorial of someone who did a beastdrol cycle, but I've read plenty of posts by Need2 masking his identity to make up stories about his gear on plenty of other sites.
If your gear is legit, get some people to post pictorials, like P90X. Give away a couple bottles in exchange for people posting weekly results. Sorry bro, you just don't appear that believable to me.
Seriously!? Needmassnow? kind of sounds like Needtobuildmassnow which is earily similar to Needtogetaas....maybe you are one of his alters and if so, man this is like the matrix my head is going to friggen explode. Thank Goodness RickO'Shea doesn't have any Needto things in it. I was worried for a second, but then I remember seeing my very real very huge Friend Landon who has been on the beast starter stack for about 3 weeks and has gone up 15lbs on his bench and 16lbs of weight and looked F'ing huge!!! See we've been the same build ever since i met the kid and now he's built like a damn Bradley tank!!!
I LOVE BEASTDROL lol, its pretty sad that its going to disappear. I find it pretty funny that theres people out there that dont believe its legit. Oh well they don't deserve itstrongest oral I've ever used (never used anadrol)
Here is my question, Why don't you buy a bottle, instead of bitchn' the company out ,give it a go, you could even use p90X (Which i've done and saw great results) and if it doesn't work Needto will give you your money back. Wow, a win-win situation?...when does that ever happen? like, never! I mean if you win, you get awesome results, and if you "loose" you get your money back and you can then be the ultimate hero on EF by warning countless numbers of Retards like myself of the Huge scam you've single handidly uncovered saving us all the complete and utter humiliation of being duped by some crafty marketing scheme.
My guess is you probably won't even post on this again.
I love you Needto, so does landon his bench went from 365 to 380 in 19 days
LMFAO Needto you are hilarious, I was laughing like a little girl the whole time reading your 2 replies..... I love your sense of humour! That dude is such a moron LOL
Needto, after re-reading my original post, I think I came off more condescending than I intended to. It was not meant to bash you or your products, but more question the methods of your marketing. I received several private messages from other members agreeing with my sentiment, however, none of them obviously posted in this thread because it is obvious that questioning a company that makes products which you put into your body is out of the question on this site. I've said it before that Need2 seems like a good guy, and I still feel that way. I own my own business, and prospective clients and critics question the value of my service every day before they want to utilize what we offer. It is my responsibility as a business owner to address their concerns; similarly to how Need2 addressed mine.
I did a lot of research on Beastdrol, and I found it odd that almost every post that I came across on other forum boards had numerous posts of brand new members with only 1 or 2 posts magically appearing in only the beastdrol threads that appear on the first few pages of a google search. I was not questioning the effectiveness of Beastdrol as much as I was Need2's shady marketing efforts. I understand the principal of having to aggressively market a new product, however, you can do it in a certain manner that calls into question your credibility. My example of P90x was meant to illustrate how you should have had several people do day-by-day pictorials of their progress while cycling only your products. This would be more effective than posting the same text-only rhetoric (which may be true) on every other body building website. The saying, "a picture speaks a thousand words" comes to mind.
As far as your offer, I sincerely appreciate the offer of sending me a bottle for free. I think I will continue my research some more and decide on whether I want to try your beastdrol stack. I have no problem paying for your hardwork of developing these products and patronizing an honest business man. I appreciate your response to my post, although I do not entirely believe your entire response. I received several PM's from people who have realized the same results while searching for product reviews on google.
EDIT:::: On a quick side note. I saw someone mention how similar our names are, and that I may have copied off of Need2? If you look at our registration dates, I actually registered on this website a month before Need2 and have renewed my platinum membership several times over the past 4+ years. I think this is a great site, but people will always have the right to question what they are putting into their bodies. Some of us are just more thorough than others.
You morons are all missing the point. Call your damn congressman and senators and let's stop it. This america!!!
If gays can get married and babies can be aborted wtf can't i do gear!!??? Come one guys. We need to start a lobby!
Truthfully there is nothing you can do. I am taking the products off the shelf whether the law gets passed or not. Because the fda has the power and I am all set with testing that power. They have made a witch hunt and I plan on not being the one dangling from there ropes.
smart move man. I'm a cop and even I was amazed at someo f the stuff going on. Kind of like our attorney generals office saying they are going to focus on cops using steroids... I ask why? What problem has it posed? None whatsoever. The cops I know that are on gear are some of the best around.. It's all the young bucks that need to calm down(and they ALL do after about a year and a half) and see what this line of work is about. For some reason the world is focusing on gear like they used to focus on child molesters. Most of it is the media and how they portray professional athletes. Most of you guys even say you don't agree w/ prof. athletes using gear... I ask, why the fuck not??? They give their bodies up for our enjoyment, let them use whatever they want!!!
Needto, I hate to see your products leaving the market and I HOPE I can get some beast/katana before they go..... If not, oh well, sucks to be me!! On the flip side i'm glad your doing it, it's better for me long term for you to stick around a while and NOT be in prison...
I always wondered from your name if your a cop![]()
Steroids are an essential element to modern-day entertainment in sports. Personally, I feel football would be entertaining with or without steroids, however, 95% of those guys are on something (the other 5% being the place kickers and punters, lol). This is the reason I did not vote for McCain. I don't know if you guys remember a few years back, McCain is the senator that actually initiated the grand inquisition into steroid use in professional baseball. My thoughts are, out of all the issues we could strive to fix in the united states, you use your position to focus on steroids in baseball? Are you fucking serious? Between personal income, business, and property taxes last year, I paid over $100,000 and you are using my money to investigate whether or not Sammy Sosa hit 20 more homeruns because he was juicing?!?!?!? How about using my tax money to fund more small business development in depressed communities so we can create more jobs and stability for families. Shit, fix a fucking road or two while you are at it!
Baseball, as unentertaining as it is, is only moderately tolerable because it's fun to watch these guys smash homeruns. It's a slow boring fucking game, let them juice up and make it at least a little interesting.
Side Note....Need2, I went ahead ordered a few of your products. I'll post a real review as soon as I am finished!
This america!!!
If gays can get married and babies can be aborted wtf can't i do gear!!??? Come one guys. We need to start a lobby!
Steroids are an essential element to modern-day entertainment in sports. Personally, I feel football would be entertaining with or without steroids, however, 95% of those guys are on something (the other 5% being the place kickers and punters, lol). This is the reason I did not vote for McCain. I don't know if you guys remember a few years back, McCain is the senator that actually initiated the grand inquisition into steroid use in professional baseball. My thoughts are, out of all the issues we could strive to fix in the united states, you use your position to focus on steroids in baseball? Are you fucking serious? Between personal income, business, and property taxes last year, I paid over $100,000 and you are using my money to investigate whether or not Sammy Sosa hit 20 more homeruns because he was juicing?!?!?!? How about using my tax money to fund more small business development in depressed communities so we can create more jobs and stability for families. Shit, fix a fucking road or two while you are at it!
Baseball, as unentertaining as it is, is only moderately tolerable because it's fun to watch these guys smash homeruns. It's a slow boring fucking game, let them juice up and make it at least a little interesting.
Side Note....Need2, I went ahead ordered a few of your products. I'll post a real review as soon as I am finished!

Can I get a refund?
Actually.. just apply the refund to some more bottles of tren-tfo.
Cool, thanks.![]()
Need2, my starting stats are 5'8 172 w/ 10-11% bf. I'm hoping to attain 178 w/ 8-9% bf. Do you think this is possible with a 3.5-4 week cycle of beastdrol @ 20mg per day? I was thinking about throwing in some tren for the first 2-3 weeks as well at a moderate dose. I'm not big on putting alot of things into my body, and I have been natural up until now. Are these gains sustainable without having to continuously go on gear every 6-8 months?
Need2, my starting stats are 5'8 172 w/ 10-11% bf. I'm hoping to attain 178 w/ 8-9% bf. Do you think this is possible with a 3.5-4 week cycle of beastdrol @ 20mg per day? I was thinking about throwing in some tren for the first 2-3 weeks as well at a moderate dose. I'm not big on putting alot of things into my body, and I have been natural up until now. Are these gains sustainable without having to continuously go on gear every 6-8 months?
Is Primordial Performance also discontinuing some of their products too?
Thanks. I just saw a thread on that. Sad.Sounds like the 1-T Tren will soon be gone too which I'd imagine the original T too
So from the results people are getting from beastdrol.. it sounds kind of like anadrol without the crazy bloat. That fairly accurate of the results this gives?
So from the results people are getting from beastdrol.. it sounds kind of like anadrol without the crazy bloat. That fairly accurate of the results this gives?
Steroids are an essential element to modern-day entertainment in sports. Personally, I feel football would be entertaining with or without steroids, however, 95% of those guys are on something (the other 5% being the place kickers and punters, lol). This is the reason I did not vote for McCain. I don't know if you guys remember a few years back, McCain is the senator that actually initiated the grand inquisition into steroid use in professional baseball. My thoughts are, out of all the issues we could strive to fix in the united states, you use your position to focus on steroids in baseball? Are you fucking serious? Between personal income, business, and property taxes last year, I paid over $100,000 and you are using my money to investigate whether or not Sammy Sosa hit 20 more homeruns because he was juicing?!?!?!? How about using my tax money to fund more small business development in depressed communities so we can create more jobs and stability for families. Shit, fix a fucking road or two while you are at it!
Baseball, as unentertaining as it is, is only moderately tolerable because it's fun to watch these guys smash homeruns. It's a slow boring fucking game, let them juice up and make it at least a little interesting.
Side Note....Need2, I went ahead ordered a few of your products. I'll post a real review as soon as I am finished!
What about you guys that are coming off of a 4-weeker on Beastdrol...how are your gains looking? Are you keeping the strength up, or do you pretty much need to be "on" to keep the gains and strength?
Sounds like the 1-T Tren will soon be gone too which I'd imagine the original T too

Not according to Jim at PP, I PM'd him and right now all products are staying put except 1 T -Tren.
I hope that is true because Dermacrine was an awesome stack with S-4 as a bridge and PP topicals and Needto's orals made an awesome combo!!
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hehe, i got plenty of products on order.. happy birthday to me!!!! 4 bottles diesel, 2 bottles katanadrol, 2 bottles epi strong and one bottle of tren 19 tfo!!! again, happy bday to me!
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