Please Scroll Down to See Forums Below Hello people, just after some advice. 48 year old male from the UK. Been training majority of my life and in ok shape. Recently been using peptides to shred down and I’m almost where I want to be. The plan is to now put some size on but keep abs etc. An old school bodybuilder friend of mine has told me to use nandrolone and Test enanthate using small doses of each. I’ve read up a bit and I’m put off by the potential hair loss and Deca dick haha. What’s people’s opinions and advice for this cycle please ?
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Its advisable to do a cycle of just test first before stacking it with another compound.
Thanks mate. Can I ask why?
Because it compounds severe hormonal suppression, introduces complex progestogenic side effects that are difficult to manage without prior experience, and makes it impossible to isolate which compound causes adverse reactions.
They both convert to estradiol (an estrogen) and you have no idea how you aromatase yet.
I would start by getting a full blood count and a hormone panel and taking note of your test level and e2 then start low like 100mg max 200mg of test e split into 2 or 3 injections over the week to keep your levels stable and then go back get another blood test and see at what rate you aromatase.
Also your age is a big factor in this, you'll probably get the results you want just from some test alone as at 48 your natural test is probably quite low.
appreciate that cheers man
welcome to EF
@KyleG
you shouldnt cycle anhything without a log mate
if you go on full hard you'll get nasty sides, the way to do it is start a log and share and work into a cycle
HOW-TO LOG?
Why is a Log Journal important?
- Doing a log will actually help you way more than just dropping random updates. When you lay it all out week by week you start to see patterns in your body that you won’t catch otherwise.
- Other guys here run logs all the time and there’s no privacy issue, nobody is asking for your name or anything personal, it is just training, diet, and how the compound feels.
- The feedback you get is also way better because people can follow along and spot things you might miss. It also helps the next guy who is thinking about running the same compound so you are giving back while you learn.
- Even if you think you might not stick with it, just starting the log makes it easier to come back and add quick notes. That way you get more out of what you are running instead of keeping it all in your head.
To really guide you we need more info from you.
- Please share your diet, training, cardio, sleep, supplements etc log with us in a NEW thread, full log journal so our guidance is based on facts you provide.
- It will take 15-20 minutes max.
- We have 100s of years of experience between us, so you need to post a LOG Journal with your stats (weight,height,age, years training, cycle history) diet, training, cardio, supplement, sleep details. If you don't log what you eat or train now, open NOTES on phone and start recording it there and paste here. Very easy.
- Please post a Log Journal asap for us
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in Title: write your cycle name, like> My _____ Cycle Log
___ = the name of your log
example: My testosterone cycle Log
in body: write your planned cycle or cycle you doing now, your diet, training and we will help you along on your cycle
here are examples of LOG Journals
Approved Log Thread 'My Anavar Training and Diet Log - Female'
Trusted Log Thread 'Mobster - back on the grind log'
Approved Log Thread 'Domestic-Supply.com Bulking Log - 25Homes'
Approved Log Thread 'My TRT Cruise and recovery log'
Approved Log Thread 'My Testosterone Tbol Cycle Log'
Approved Log Thread 'Slyder 24 bulk cycle log'
Approved Log Thread 'My Fat Loss journey Log'
Approved Log Thread 'My TRT and Deca Cycle log'
Approved Log Thread 'Log EP for healing / recovery'
I will start the log here and keep it updated. Main goal of the cycle is to lose fat and weight while maintaining strength and possibly gaining some lean mass. I've done this successfully on my last 2 cycles. My diet while on this was 20/4 IF and keto. I would work out fasted, eat keto during the 4 hour window following the workout, and then be done again until the next day. I lost about 15-20 kg during the 12 week cycles and gained a little strength...
when you use deca you should use proviron with it. that will solve the deca dick issue in 99% of situations
Do 300 mg of Test and Deca and then maybe consider using NPP instead of Deca.
Thanks mate appreciatedwelcome to EF
@KyleG
you shouldnt cycle anhything without a log mate
if you go on full hard you'll get nasty sides, the way to do it is start a log and share and work into a cycle
HOW-TO LOG?
Why is a Log Journal important?
- Doing a log will actually help you way more than just dropping random updates. When you lay it all out week by week you start to see patterns in your body that you won’t catch otherwise.
- Other guys here run logs all the time and there’s no privacy issue, nobody is asking for your name or anything personal, it is just training, diet, and how the compound feels.
- The feedback you get is also way better because people can follow along and spot things you might miss. It also helps the next guy who is thinking about running the same compound so you are giving back while you learn.
- Even if you think you might not stick with it, just starting the log makes it easier to come back and add quick notes. That way you get more out of what you are running instead of keeping it all in your head.
To really guide you we need more info from you.
- Please share your diet, training, cardio, sleep, supplements etc log with us in a NEW thread, full log journal so our guidance is based on facts you provide.
- It will take 15-20 minutes max.
- We have 100s of years of experience between us, so you need to post a LOG Journal with your stats (weight,height,age, years training, cycle history) diet, training, cardio, supplement, sleep details. If you don't log what you eat or train now, open NOTES on phone and start recording it there and paste here. Very easy.
- Please post a Log Journal asap for us
Please click the anabolic forum
top RIGHT, you see: +POST THREADAnabolic Steroids
Discuss Anabolic Androgenic Steroids (AAS) and SARMS (Selective androgen receptor modulators). Sponsored by NapsGear.org - 20 years of trust!
click that
in Title: write your cycle name, like> My _____ Cycle Log
___ = the name of your log
example: My testosterone cycle Log
in body: write your planned cycle or cycle you doing now, your diet, training and we will help you along on your cycle
here are examples of LOG Journals
Approved Log Thread 'My Anavar Training and Diet Log - Female'
Trusted Log Thread 'Mobster - back on the grind log'
Approved Log Thread 'Domestic-Supply.com Bulking Log - 25Homes'
Approved Log Thread 'My TRT Cruise and recovery log'
Approved Log Thread 'My Testosterone Tbol Cycle Log'
Approved Log Thread 'Slyder 24 bulk cycle log'
Approved Log Thread 'My Fat Loss journey Log'
Approved Log Thread 'My TRT and Deca Cycle log'
Approved Log Thread 'Log EP for healing / recovery'
I will start the log here and keep it updated. Main goal of the cycle is to lose fat and weight while maintaining strength and possibly gaining some lean mass. I've done this successfully on my last 2 cycles. My diet while on this was 20/4 IF and keto. I would work out fasted, eat keto during the 4 hour window following the workout, and then be done again until the next day. I lost about 15-20 kg during the 12 week cycles and gained a little strength...
Gonna have to read up on what NPP is cheers mate
Its a shorter ester of deca. Both are nandrolone.
Start here: https://irongorillas.com/ with the steroid ebook and maybe add some GLP (Reta)
