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[Concubine]

STFU

Im happy discussing thanks

 

[Trumpy]

The rare occasions it did happen i learnt my lesson, call it what you want, but it was the wrong thing to do, i never wanted to make beef but clearly its taken much harsher than i anticipated, so there thats my honest truth

I asked you why you did it, not if it happened. I know it happened. Saying it was rare is irrelevant, and could easily be a lie rooted in self preservation.

 

[LVTN]

“stop blaming others for your actions”

Tell that to Ash lol. If you’re taking his side you’re also a shit cunt

 

[Concubine]

I asked you why you did it, not if it happened. I know it happened. Saying it was rare is irrelevant, and could easily be a lie rooted in self preservation.

I can’t see it would make a difference to you if you knew the why, you’re just fuelling the fire.

 

[Trumpy]

There appears to a whole lot you don’t know, hence why you’re asking so many questions, yet you’re still providing a strong opinion. What’s different?

Do you see me asking what happened, or am I asking why he did it?

Think before you speak, and stop playing devil’s advocate. It doesn’t work when you’re ignorant.

 

[Trumpy]

I can’t see it would make a difference to you if you knew the why, you’re just fuelling the fire.

I don’t care what you can or can’t see. You’re not relevant.

 

[Concubine]

Tell that to Ash lol. If you’re taking his side you’re also a shit cunt

my views are impartial, im on nobody’s side here but im seeing more idiocracys in those against ash, you’ve all done a fine job ousting him and he is apologising, what else do you want.

 

[Swcc]

I asked you why you did it, not if it happened. I know it happened. Saying it was rare is irrelevant, and could easily be a lie rooted in self preservation.

Man what do you want me to say? "I want money" ok thats a goid enough answer, is it not? I just want this to be done with, gregs got his money, everyone else can have their opinions of me, im focussing on my bodybuilding and my career, it doesnt need to go further than after we wrap this up does it

 

[Concubine]

I don’t care what you can or can’t see. You’re not relevant.

Neither are you to me, but I’m listening to and regarding your opinion.

 

[Trumpy]

Man what do you want me to say? "I want money" ok thats a goid enough answer, is it not? I just want this to be done with, gregs got his money, everyone else can have their opinions of me, im focussing on my bodybuilding and my career, it doesnt need to go further than after we wrap this up does it

Literally all I’m seeking is the truth. If “I wanted money” is the answer then it’s the answer.

Anyway I’m off to the gym, I’d ask more questions but I’m short on time rn.

 

[Trumpy]

Neither are you to me, but I’m listening to and regarding your opinion.

I don’t care. Your input isn’t relevant.

 

[Concubine]

This was fun and all, thanks for this valuable introduction to this forum, it’s absolute dog shit.

 

[Swcc]

Literally all I’m seeking is the truth. If “I wanted money” is the answer then it’s the answer.

Anyway I’m off to the gym, I’d ask more questions but I’m short on time rn.

Well i want my life to go back to being peaceful so if thats all id like to do just that, it doesnt need to go further

 

[Concubine]

I don’t care. Your input isn’t relevant.

Stop responding then you muppet

 

[Trumpy]

Well i want my life to go back to being peaceful so if thats all id like to do just that, it doesnt need to go further

You pissed off a lot of people and have routinely avoided accountability. As far as I can tell, Greg only got his money back because a third party pressured you, or perhaps it was an extremely uncanny coincidence big doubts.

You fucked with vendors and clients, I’m not sure peace comes quickly when you develop that reputation.

Peace might come with transparency and accountability though.

 

[Concubine]

You pissed off a lot of people and have routinely avoided accountability. As far as I can tell, Greg only got his money back because a third party pressured you, or perhaps it was an extremely uncanny coincidence big doubts.

You fucked with vendors and clients, I’m not sure peace comes quickly when you develop that reputation.

Peace might come with transparency and accountability though.

alright Judge Judy, tell us more

 

[LVTN]

my views are impartial, im on nobody’s side here but im seeing more idiocracys in those against ash, you’ve all done a fine job ousting him and he is apologising, what else do you want.

You’re clearly on his side bro if you see more idiocracy’s in the messages against ash and not the ones he’s written himself you’re just as delusional

What do i want? I want to see him suffer and deal with the responsibilities of his actions, and take some accountability for what he’s done for once. Also wanted to shed some light on how shit of a coach and human being he is and how badly he’s treated so many clients. He’s a compulsive liar with drug issues and a personality disorder - knowing the full backstory, nothing he’s said in this thread has been a 100% truth

I can’t tell if he’s talking shit to save face, or if he genuinely believes the shit he speaks. He’s so delusional it’s like talking to a brick wall

Ash, genuinely get therapy and mental help. You’re clearly not right in the head

 

[Trumpy]

You’re clearly on his side bro if you see more idiocracy’s in the messages against ash and not the ones he’s written himself you’re just as delusional

What do i want? I want to see him suffer and deal with the responsibilities of his actions, and take some accountability for what he’s done for once. Also wanted to shed some light on how shit of a coach and human being he is and how badly he’s treated so many clients. He’s a compulsive liar with drug issues and a personality disorder - knowing the full backstory, nothing he’s said in this thread has been a 100% truth

I can’t tell if he’s talking shit to save face, or if he genuinely believes the shit he speaks. He’s so delusional it’s like talking to a brick wall

Ash, genuinely get therapy and mental help. You’re clearly not right in the head

I wouldn’t waste any more time with this blow in, he’s not relevant.

 

[undercuttersgonewild]

Hey guys.

I'm new here. You all sound like a lovely bunch of blokes. That swcc oak seems like his e2 is a little out of control, the coach needs coaching lol.

I figured and thought I would jump on here. I hope no vendor sells to you @Swcc the fact you get free gear and sell to others. Then write on bottles like a 5 year old child. Even my nephew writes in better handwriting. Not to mention the fact if you actually wrote it on the piece of paper first before sticking it on the bottle it would look more convincing.

Sounds like your needing a bit of coin. Might have to learn how to make steroids now. As no vendor will sell to you Ash.

Have a lovely day
Undercutter

 

[Swcc]

You’re clearly on his side bro if you see more idiocracy’s in the messages against ash and not the ones he’s written himself you’re just as delusional

What do i want? I want to see him suffer and deal with the responsibilities of his actions, and take some accountability for what he’s done for once. Also wanted to shed some light on how shit of a coach and human being he is and how badly he’s treated so many clients. He’s a compulsive liar with drug issues and a personality disorder - knowing the full backstory, nothing he’s said in this thread has been a 100% truth

I can’t tell if he’s talking shit to save face, or if he genuinely believes the shit he speaks. He’s so delusional it’s like talking to a brick wall

Ash, genuinely get therapy and mental help. You’re clearly not right in the head

This is unreal coming from you mate, didnt you have an ACTUAL drug addiction once? Dont go throwing shade at me for something youve admitted to, its called projection

And wanting to see someone suffer is a trait of a psycopath, so id get evaluated asap

I suggest you focus on your own life and stop worrying about mine, because im doing just fine when im not being pestered by the likes of people
Like you

 

[Swcc]

Hey guys.

I'm new here. You all sound like a lovely bunch of blokes. That swcc oak seems like his e2 is a little out of control, the coach needs coaching lol.

I figured and thought I would jump on here. I hope no vendor sells to you @Swcc the fact you get free gear and sell to others. Then write on bottles like a 5 year old child. Even my nephew writes in better handwriting. Not to mention the fact if you actually wrote it on the piece of paper first before sticking it on the bottle it would look more convincing.

Sounds like your needing a bit of coin. Might have to learn how to make steroids now. As no vendor will sell to you Ash.

Have a lovely day
Undercutter

Nah im actually financially secure thanks bud, but thanks for your kind words, enjoy your night

 

[undercuttersgonewild]

Nah im actually financially secure thanks bud, but thanks for your kind words, enjoy your night

Love you big man. You will do well with a small niche of men buying your underwear. Much more lucrative.

 

[Swcc]

Love you big man. You will do well with a small niche of men buying your underwear. Much more lucrative.

Thanks hun, let me know when you need another pair

 

[undercuttersgonewild]

Thanks hun, let me know when you need another pair

@Django_ loves these.

 

[Django_]

No i dont actually, have i used edibles before? Yes, have i used opioids before? Yes is it a habit? No, how do you think i am abled to do what i do and progress as a bodybuilder doing all that shit? Use our head mate, and have some facts in your rebuttals for once

You are absolutely mental

 

[LVTN]

This is unreal coming from you mate, didnt you have an ACTUAL drug addiction once? Dont go throwing shade at me for something youve admitted to, its called projection

And wanting to see someone suffer is a trait of a psycopath, so id get evaluated asap

I suggest you focus on your own life and stop worrying about mine, because im doing just fine when im not being pestered by the likes of people
Like you

I definitely did, and I’ve sold you plenty of rec drugs too with receipts to match lol

You deserve to suffer bro, I’m mates with all your ex clients and they’ve got nothing but horror stories to share about you

I’m not worried about you or your life, just fascinated by the way you respond to things getting thrown back in your face. The level of delusion you have is almost incomprehensible bro. Like i said get some mental help for your own sake or you’ll die lonely

 

[undercuttersgonewild]

I definitely did, and I’ve sold you plenty of rec drugs too with receipts to match lol

You deserve to suffer bro, I’m mates with all your ex clients and they’ve got nothing but horror stories to share about you

I’m not worried about you or your life, just fascinated by the way you respond to things getting thrown back in your face. The level of delusion you have is almost incomprehensible bro. Like i said get some mental help for your own sake or you’ll die lonely

Silence has been reached.

 

[Swcc]

I definitely did, and I’ve sold you plenty of rec drugs too with receipts to match lol

You deserve to suffer bro, I’m mates with all your ex clients and they’ve got nothing but horror stories to share about you

I’m not worried about you or your life, just fascinated by the way you respond to things getting thrown back in your face. The level of delusion you have is almost incomprehensible bro. Like i said get some mental help for your own sake or you’ll die lonely

See the funny thing is, since i ACTUALLY am involved in the bodybuilding industry and am known and liked by other real coaches and bodybuilders ive never had more support in my life than i do now, ive been reached out to daily by athletes and coaches helping me get through this shitty time of being slandered, so no actually im very far from lonely

Oh yeah the rec drugs that i then forwarded on? Yeah thanks dude helped some people i know alot thankyou

And again, wishing for someone to suffer says alot about your character, i always thought you were a good guy, but true colours eventually show, and now to me your just another nobody doing nothing positive in bidybuilding, just wanting to see others as miserable as you are

Id say nice knowing ya but thatd be a lie, night LV

 

[Swcc]

Silence has been reached.

No im just busy responding to clients, but nice commentary buddy

 

[Concubine]

Silence has been reached.

Finally.

 

[Concubine]

Alright ladies, let’s put a pin in this and circle jerk back next week

 

[LVTN]

See the funny thing is, since i ACTUALLY am involved in the bodybuilding industry and am known and liked by other real coaches and bodybuilders ive never had more support in my life than i do now, ive been reached out to daily by athletes and coaches helping me get through this shitty time of being slandered, so no actually im very far from lonely

Oh yeah the rec drugs that i then forwarded on? Yeah thanks dude helped some people i know alot thankyou

And again, wishing for someone to suffer says alot about your character, i always thought you were a good guy, but true colours eventually show, and now to me your just another nobody doing nothing positive in bidybuilding, just wanting to see others as miserable as you are

Id say nice knowing ya but thatd be a lie, night LV

That is actually funny good night bro

In all seriousness I genuinely hope you get the help you need and you’re able to look back on this part of your life and think ‘what the fuck was I doing’

 

[Concubine]

That is actually funny good night bro

In all seriousness I genuinely hope you get the help you need and you’re able to look back on this part of your life and think ‘what the fuck was I doing’

I agree lol crack up haha gosh

 

[wolf#85]

That was a wild read

 

[Jay Dee]

swcc avoiding accountability AGAIN?? who wouldve guessed

 

[Swcc]

swcc avoiding accountability AGAIN?? who wouldve guessed

Some random who just jumps onboard the bandwagon without knowing a single thing! Who wouldve guessed!

 

[Swcc]

That is actually funny good night bro

In all seriousness I genuinely hope you get the help you need and you’re able to look back on this part of your life and think ‘what the fuck was I doing’

I hope you can look back one day and go "fuck i was a bandwaggoner and didnt have two brain cells to rub together"

 

[SteveMobsterG]

Devils advocate here. If SWCC is half as bad as others make out then it 100% needs sorting but the OP has hair on his balls (just) and needs to take SOME responsibility.

Little back story, I’m fresh 20 years old. i signed up with Swcc Coaaching to get some guidance on a cycle after being on trt for a few years myself

Why is a 20 year old on TRT 'for a few years'. Now I agree with 1 members reply re getting good advice from a reliable coach. Here's some for free - stop. Just stop. You're 20, describe yourself as 'fresh' (I waited on 'innocent and virginal' too) yet wanted advice on running PEDS. If you thought you needed to eat more then DO SO. What the heck is staying on the same intake gonna do? If I pay for something (info from an 'expert') then you can be damn sure I'll ask questions.

People mention 'multiple forum banning'... mention those forums. Less 2nd hand 'what I heard and more names, proof etc

 

[SteveMobsterG]

On clients and coaches not working out... it's a thing. It's more of a thing when they want their money back and go on various platforms kicking off. I mentioned a story from a former IFBB pro who had a client kick off over a refund when he wouldn't let her eat doughnuts 'but my last coach did'... the one you left when you didn't get lean? Yeah that.

With the odd exception most coaches aren't worth what you're happy to pay. Work harder in the gym, eat better and use PEDS in moderation. For free. Vs getting 'permission' to cruise, blast and be lazy. I accept PayPal donations lol

 

[Swcc]

Devils advocate here. If SWCC is half as bad as others make out then it 100% needs sorting but the OP has hair on his balls (just) and needs to take SOME responsibility.

Little back story, I’m fresh 20 years old. i signed up with Swcc Coaaching to get some guidance on a cycle after being on trt for a few years myself

Why is a 20 year old on TRT 'for a few years'. Now I agree with 1 members reply re getting good advice from a reliable coach. Here's some for free - stop. Just stop. You're 20, describe yourself as 'fresh' (I waited on 'innocent and virginal' too) yet wanted advice on running PEDS. If you thought you needed to eat more then DO SO. What the heck is staying on the same intake gonna do? If I pay for something (info from an 'expert') then you can be damn sure I'll ask questions.

People mention 'multiple forum banning'... mention those forums. Less 2nd hand 'what I heard and more names, proof etc

Its just a witchhunt, what ive been dealing with for the past month, in australia we call this "tall poppy syndrome" noone in here has done anything in bodybuilding let alone stick to a meal plan for more than a few days, im banged my head against the wall here enough and they just need to stop

 

[Swcc]

Just for a little fun your so called mate who claims "not once" on bloods and i told you youre talking shit, heres a lik screenshot of one of the sets of bloods he sent me. Ive blurred out his checkin pictures for obvious reasons, but noone here can accept that the truth isnt getting in the way of this thirst for blood

 

[Swcc]

Oh and another "hey i can get anadrol or tbol for free" and me clearly stating to stop thinking about drugs

 

[Swcc]

Another screen grab of one of the kids wanting to add more shit and me advising against

 

[Swcc]

My point is im demonised as some big drug pusher which i certainly am not, take it as you all will im over it

 

[shnagzy]

Ok so yes those bloods are real, I did them myself before even signing on and sent them to you after asking if you wanted to see. The turinabol question is also real, as I was asking due to being able to get it for free. I had no idea and was able to get something for free that would usually cost me a bit, who wouldn't ask?

I'm not spreading any abuse, any slander or any lies. I haven't been going around saying stupid shit and I haven't threatened anything or any one at any time.

I just wanted to state facts and explain my side of the story and will continue to do so, as well as being 100% truthful about things I have said or that are claimed about me, such as above.

 

[shnagzy]

Further to that, I also have receipts of the same conversations and such, which I don't feel a need to post to prove any points as I am not lying and have nothing to hide.

 

[GredDoucette11]

Ok so yes those bloods are real, I did them myself before even signing on and sent them to you after asking if you wanted to see. The turinabol question is also real, as I was asking due to being able to get it for free. I had no idea and was able to get something for free that would usually cost me a bit, who wouldn't ask?

I'm not spreading any abuse, any slander or any lies. I haven't been going around saying stupid shit and I haven't threatened anything or any one at any time.

I just wanted to state facts and explain my side of the story and will continue to do so, as well as being 100% truthful about things I have said or that are claimed about me, such as above.

notice how in the screenshot that’s the bloods sent is the VERY first ever images sent to SWCC? So clearly was before you signed up

 

[Swcc]

notice how in the screenshot that’s the bloods sent is the VERY first ever images sent to SWCC? So clearly was before you signed up

Further to that, I also have receipts of the same conversations and such, which I don't feel a need to post to prove any points as I am not lying and have nothing to hide.

We did more than 1 set of bloods and you know it, also remember you constantly asking me if you could use more compounds or try this or try that? Im not soreading hate either but you guys are unreal the way you are bending the truth

 

[Swcc]

notice how in the screenshot that’s the bloods sent is the VERY first ever images sent to SWCC? So clearly was before you signed up

I wish i had our receipts so i could show people how much of a liar you are too

 

[Swcc]

Further to that, I also have receipts of the same conversations and such, which I don't feel a need to post to prove any points as I am not lying and have nothing to hide.

Admit that i never pushed any drugs onto you, and infact you initiated and asked to use most of the extra stuff you did, remember you asking me if you could try xyz compound? Sure i shouldve pushed back and said no but i didnt force you to do anything

 

[Denisthemenace]

Admit that i never pushed any drugs onto you, and infact you initiated and asked to use most of the extra stuff you did, remember you asking me if you could try xyz compound? Sure i shouldve pushed back and said no but i didnt force you to do anything

Fuck me you’re an absolute bot.

 

[Swcc]

Fuck me you’re an absolute bot. View attachment 182611

I dont take offence from people who are doing worse than me in life, so water off a ducks back buddy

 

[Denisthemenace]

This will be the one and ONLY reply i will put here 1.because you are all misinformed and wont accept the real truth if it smacked you in the face and
2. Because i have better shit to do with my time

Firstly, this so called cycle that mr Greg was supposedly put on by me literally started at a few hundred mgs of test, 100mg of eq and 10 or 20mg a day of npp, the escalations up to what he claims in the end are all of his own doing and choice "oh i can get 36iu gh from so and so can i run 18iu please"

I never threw drugs at him and no his food never went up once because the kid gained 20kg over 20 weeks with no need to, his androgen escalations purely and simply all requested by him, could i have said "no greg" sure, but this lying little fucker (who has been refunded by the way) was adamant on going higher and higher, so he could "fit in" with the older more experienced guys

Constantly gloating too about his importation of peptides and gear the whole time, and how he wanted to have a stockpile large enough he could blast gh for decades, so stop pointing the finger greg and take some responsibility for your own fucking decisions

Another point, you claim i had a whole bunch of client leave me in a feww days? Correct 6 or 7? All of who mainly your buddies, which by the way i have replaced and found much more genuine clients, so dont stress about me mate, worry about yourself, and lastly all my clients are requested by me to get bloodwork, dont bullshit, we pulled bloods atleast twice with you you liar

What else? OH "i didnt know what i was doing" what a load of fucking horseshit mate, you know more about peds than most, so dont play victim here

Another point, go ask any of my other clients who arent braindead their doseages, rarely anyone was over a gram total, and were never forced to take anything, and bloods every 4-6 weeks, all health pharma in their protocol, cardio prescribed, clean diets, supplements to support health, the lot

I find this witchhunt quite contradicting as when i coached the 6 or so guys who left they all LOVED the progress they were making and how much attention to detail i provided, this thread right here is a perfect example of MOB MENTALITY and everything either spun in a way to make me look bad OR taken out of context

Im a human, i make mistakes, i can own up to perhaps not pushinng back harder when a client wanted to explore higher doseages sure, but im also not stupid, id never get a client to do something I HAVENT DONE.

So instead of this being some big witch hunt and it just being he said she said, why dont any of you ASK ME a question about any of these claims and you can have my honest and written out explanantion? Cmon, be men for once and show some civilisation

Act your age and turn what is apparentlt some big negative thread into something positive, bodybuilding can be so toxic and you dont have to be part of the problem

I loved coaching each and every one of my clients and my passion for this is unmatched, anyone would agree if they know me

So cmon? What do i eloborate on? Otherwise if youre just going to make a misleading hate thread fine, but if you want answers then ask, i think youll find this drama is nothing like it seems

I dont take offence from people who are doing worse than me in life, so water off a ducks back buddy

Mate you look like a Fuckn bunyip. You have actively admitted to using people with disabilities so you can seal from Cole’s or wollies. Doing better than me mate your mid 30 and look like a turd covered in burnt hair

 

[Swcc]

Mate you look like a Fuckn bunyip. You have actively admitted to using people with disabilities so you can seal from Cole’s or wollies. Doing better than me mate your mid 30 and look like a turd covered in burnt hair

Thanks! Ill remember that when im doing what i love everyday and you continue being a nobody

 

[Denisthemenace]

Thanks! Ill remember that when im doing what i love everyday and you continue being a nobody

What taking advantage of people with disabilities. You would have to be one of the most diabolical humans to think that’s ok. Quick chuck your sweat band back on to cover up those wispy pubes that look glued to your skull. Taking advantage of vulnerable people is about as pathetic as it comes. Until you take responsibility and accountability for your actions you will continue to be a pleb

 

[Swcc]

What taking advantage of people with disabilities. You would have to be one of the most diabolical humans to think that’s ok. Quick chuck your sweat band back on to cover up those wispy pubes that look glued to your skull. Taking advantage of vulnerable people is about as pathetic as it comes. Until you take responsibility and accountability for your actions you will continue to be a pleb

Thanks sweet heart xoxox

 

[iDreamofHenry]

I hope you can look back one day and go "fuck i was a bandwaggoner and didnt have two brain cells to rub together"

Keep digging that grave deeper you Muppet, the fact everyone universally hates your guts says everything, the only cunt whos somewhat defended you also turned on you, can you just kys and save us the trouble

 

[Denisthemenace]

Thanks sweet heart xoxox

Your welcome you flog

 

[Swcc]

Keep digging that grave deeper you Muppet, the fact everyone universally hates your guts says everything, the only cunt whos somewhat defended you also turned on you, can you just kys and save us the trouble

Nah im good thanks buddy i have way too much to live for, but hey keep sooking on the internet, anyways im out, better shit to do, bye sooky la la

 

[iDreamofHenry]

Nah im good thanks buddy i have way too much to live for, but hey keep sooking on the internet, anyways im out, better shit to do, bye sooky la la

Im gonna see you at your next show mate, you better keep this energy, because in dms with my melkor account you were an apologetic little bitch

 

[Denisthemenace]

Nah im good thanks buddy i have way too much to live for, but hey keep sooking on the internet, anyways im out, better shit to do, bye

Nah im good thanks buddy i have way too much to live for, but hey keep sooking on the internet, anyways im out, better shit to do, bye sooky la la

Mate he’s not sooking. Hes giving out the truth and has given you opportunity to make good and you are being a fuckwit. You would have to be the most unintelligent human iv come across. You are a Fuckn con artist

 

[Concubine]

Just when it seemed like there was some sense, old mate idreamofhenrysballs waltzes back in.

I suggest keeping the threats to a minimum, if you truly want to pay a visit, or be at his show, let me know and I’m happy to ensure you’re dealt with appropriately.

With the authorities of course, you see because I’m not a spineless meathead junkie making threats online.

 

[Denisthemenace]

Just when it seemed like there was some sense, old mate idreamofhenrysballs waltzes back in.

I suggest keeping the threats to a minimum, if you truly want to pay a visit, or be at his show, let me know and I’m happy to ensure you’re dealt with appropriately.

With the authorities of course, you see because I’m not a spineless meathead junkie making threats online.

Na you’re just a Fuckn idiot

 

[Heavygripper]

Just when it seemed like there was some sense, old mate idreamofhenrysballs waltzes back in.

I suggest keeping the threats to a minimum, if you truly want to pay a visit, or be at his show, let me know and I’m happy to ensure you’re dealt with appropriately.

With the authorities of course, you see because I’m not a spineless meathead junkie making threats online.

Spineless?
Junky?

If only you actually knew.

 

[Concubine]

Spineless?
Junky?

If only you actually knew.

Oh, I don’t really do I but I bet he loves the embrace of your heavy grip huh

 

[Heavygripper]

Oh, I don’t really do I but I bet he loves the embrace of your heavy grip huh

Go call the cops faggot

 

[Denisthemenace]

Oh, I don’t really do I but I bet he loves the embrace of your heavy grip huh

What the fuck is wrong with you

 

[Concubine]

Go call the cops faggot

Why does that make someone a faggot? Is that not a reasonable thing to do? Do you realise how stupid you sound? This is the problem when a bunch of bravado males are tossing each other off in an echo chamber

 

[Concubine]

I’m a whiny faggot

 

[Heavygripper]

Why does that make someone a faggot? Is that not a reasonable thing to do? Do you realise how stupid you sound? This is the problem when a bunch of bravado males are tossing each other off in an echo chamber

Is that better or worse than the guy you are defending, who admitted in a group chat to using an NDIS clients wheelchair to shoplift?

He is despised for many, many reasons you fucking cocksucker, it makes sense that a coward who’s go to is to call the cops would align themselves with someone who could do that to a vulnerable person.

How stupid I sound? Fucking lol

 

[Concubine]

Is that better or worse than the guy you are defending, who admitted in a group chat to using an NDIS clients wheelchair to shoplift?

He is despised for many, many reasons you fucking cocksucker, it makes sense that a coward who’s go to is to call the cops would align themselves with someone who could do that to a vulnerable person.

How stupid I sound? Fucking lol

You sound even worse now, read your own comment back.

It’s tiring debating with people that have an IQ and bodyfat that match. I’ll take my leave.

 

[RetaAbuser]

Holy shit! All this going down at 3AM on Wednesday is wild. Let me get comfy.

 

[Heavygripper]

You sound even worse now, read your own comment back.

It’s tiring debating with people that have an IQ and bodyfat that match. I’ll take my leave.

No worries SW.
Hope everything goes well at your next comp.

 

[Concubine]

Looks like someone put the hunchback back in his castle

 

[wolf#85]

Why does that make someone a faggot? Is that not a reasonable thing to do? Do you realise how stupid you sound? This is the problem when a bunch of bravado males are tossing each other off in an echo chamber

Your a good troll, very entertaining

 

[Concubine]

Your a good troll, very entertaining

Thank you wolf

 

[Heavygripper]

You sound even worse now, read your own comment back.

It’s tiring debating with people that have an IQ and bodyfat that match. I’ll take my leave.

Debate this bro.
Given my low IQ it should be easy, justify an NDIS support worker using a client in a wheelchair to shoplift.

I especially like the irony of you questioning people’s IQ while this idiot can’t even spell disability correctly.

Here, I’ll get you started.

People like this should be in jail…….be very interested to hear your take on this.

 

[Concubine]

Debate this bro.
Given my low IQ it should be easy, justify an NDIS support worker using a client in a wheelchair to shoplift.

I especially like the irony of you questioning people’s IQ while this idiot can’t even spell disability correctly.

Here, I’ll get you started.

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People like this should be in jail…….be very interested to hear your take on this.

Everyone in the chat laughed at it and supported it, you probably did too. But now you’re butt hurt you’re using it as ammo. Once again evidence you’re all sucking each others cocks in an echo chamber. Thanks for providing evidence of exactly the point I’m making. You’re a champ!

 

[Heavygripper]

Since your big on reporting shit to the authorities @Concubine maybe take this one up with the NDIS Quality and Safeguards Commission. The phone number is 1800053544.

They love to hear about this kind of thing.

Or you could just accept how this entire thread reflects on a persons character and stop defending this grub.

 

[Heavygripper]

Everyone in the chat laughed at it and supported it, you probably did too. But now you’re butt hurt you’re using it as ammo. Once again evidence you’re all sucking each others cocks in an echo chamber. Thanks for providing evidence of exactly the point I’m making. You’re a champ!

Nah bro.
Never liked it and never glanced at his chat ever again after that comment.

There is a special place in hell for people who do that to the vulnerable……but sure you keep defending it……how does his jizz taste faggot?

 

[Heavygripper]

I’m out.
I’ll leave the comments as they are, people can use their own critical thinking skills and moral compass to draw their own conclusions.

 

[GrimSleeper]

Fuck me dead more drama than Home and Away.

 

[UnclePoon]

What a morning read.

My 2 cents is: Vendors for good reasons get suspended for failing their duties on Evo and EF at the drop of a hat - Good in my opinion helps keep the standards very high.

It seems that us as the community members get quite a more relaxed approach to suspensions or banning etc.
Like people really have to be pieces of shit for a longer period of time almost too long - which is more understandable compared to vendors as well as this is community led and we don't have access to Vendor standards as much as the Mods do.

I don't know the story or who or how bad this coach actually is as most of the evidence would be on someone's phone with very little posted.
But if we have MODS raising issues.
Multiple community members all raising concerns about someone.
Multiple other communities banning someone.

If SWCC is actually as bad as everyone is claiming: How is he still here and why haven't thing's been done?

and that's less aimed at him and more at future Malaka's

 

[wolf#85]

What a morning read.

My 2 cents is: Vendors for good reasons get suspended for failing their duties on Evo and EF at the drop of a hat - Good in my opinion helps keep the standards very high.

It seems that us as the community members get quite a more relaxed approach to suspensions or banning etc.
Like people really have to be pieces of shit for a longer period of time almost too long - which is more understandable compared to vendors as well as this is community led and we don't have access to Vendor standards as much as the Mods do.

I don't know the story or who or how bad this coach actually is as most of the evidence would be on someone's phone with very little posted.
But if we have MODS raising issues.
Multiple community members all raising concerns about someone.
Multiple other communities banning someone.

If SWCC is actually as bad as everyone is claiming: How is he still here and why haven't thing's been done?

and that's less aimed at him and more at future Malaka's

You hit the nail on the head, I think it's more to do with higher ups, they don't really give a fuck . Mods and community members can only raise so much. I don't know who the higher ups are but if they cared the same standards would be upheld. Just the way I see it.

 

[Trumpy]

What a morning read.

My 2 cents is: Vendors for good reasons get suspended for failing their duties on Evo and EF at the drop of a hat - Good in my opinion helps keep the standards very high.

It seems that us as the community members get quite a more relaxed approach to suspensions or banning etc.
Like people really have to be pieces of shit for a longer period of time almost too long - which is more understandable compared to vendors as well as this is community led and we don't have access to Vendor standards as much as the Mods do.

I don't know the story or who or how bad this coach actually is as most of the evidence would be on someone's phone with very little posted.
But if we have MODS raising issues.
Multiple community members all raising concerns about someone.
Multiple other communities banning someone.

If SWCC is actually as bad as everyone is claiming: How is he still here and why haven't thing's been done?

and that's less aimed at him and more at future Malaka's

It’s just a matter of time mate. He’s banned everywhere else.

 

[Denisthemenace]

Debate this bro.
Given my low IQ it should be easy, justify an NDIS support worker using a client in a wheelchair to shoplift.

I especially like the irony of you questioning people’s IQ while this idiot can’t even spell disability correctly.

Here, I’ll get you started.

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People like this should be in jail…….be very interested to hear your take on this.

This is disgraceful and a huge chance the person in the wheelchair has no idea. I’m sorry but swcc is ment to be helping these people have a better quality of life. Not taking advantage of the poor person who probably genuinely needs help with day to day life. Swcc is absolute mutt for doing this. It shows the true character of swcc. A total Fuckn dogg

 

[undercuttersgonewild]

This is disgraceful and a huge chance the person in the wheelchair has no idea. I’m sorry but swcc is ment to be helping these people have a better quality of life. Not taking advantage of the poor person who probably genuinely needs help with day to day life. Swcc is absolute mutt for doing this. It shows the true character of swcc. A total Fuckn dogg

You forgot he undercuts vendors too. prick.

 

[Concubine]

You forgot he undercuts vendors too. prick.

Nobody forgot any of this, you’re like a broken record you lot. Cry more.

 

[Dt400]

Hey boys, i wanted to hop in on the forum and reach out regarding some issues i’ve had and many other people have had regarding my EX coach Swcc @Swcc Coaching, which everyone knows who he is. Just please be aware of who this guy truely is before you sign up with him.



Little back story, I’m fresh 20 years old. i signed up with Swcc Coaaching to get some guidance on a cycle after being on trt for a few years myself and wanted to take things to next level under guidance of a coach, so i obviously saw Swcc physique and hes knowledge and put my trust into the guy. I wanted to show him i was committed and willing to pay him 52 weeks (1 year) upfront to show him im in this fully.



I was on 150mg test E previously, never upped it, Swcc knew that. I joined up with him, he got me blasting 750 test 350 primo 150npp 100 mast 18iu of HGH, 4iu novorapid. Mind you i’m only on 2.4k calories, low carbs. Instead of increasing my food whenever my weight would stabilise- if it did as i was hella watery and weight kept spiking and spiking, he would just keep pushing my doses higher and higher instead of food.



This cycle was 20 odd weeks. Keep in mind, 0 BLOODS were taken (never requested for them). 0 Blood pressure checks were requested or told me to take them. 0 Blood glucose checks too. That’s on 18iu mind u. With using overdosed HGH which is actually 22iu a day, which he knew.



I didn’t know that what i was doing at the time was wrong and the cycles he put me on was wrong. It wasn’t til the fact, 10 other clients left (in space of 2 days) and made me realise what he was actually doing to my health so i decided myself that i have to pull the pin and leave swcc for the better of me as i knew it was the right thing for me leaving me 20 weeks of payments to be refunded ($1700), which Swcc agreed to refund me on, and he didn’t. Instead he decided to block me on every platform possible.

Swcc is a very terrible person.



I am now thankfully with a new coach, under proper guidance and taking all health protocols seriously. Got bloods done and they weren’t exactly healthy at all, that’s what happens when you sign up with Swcc, you get unhealthy. He does not care about health at all.





Feel free to join in on your experiences in the comments.

Ash should definetly not be coaching after reading this and the other comments above. I've heard some good and bad things through instagram and in person through coaches and pt's around my area never knew it was this bad, hope you don't feel too fucked up and shit. Onwards and upwards

 

[Nasser1997o2]

Something that i dont quite understand is why so many people hire coaches if they arent competing.

Please guys, AAS use can be incredibly simple.

1. Start at a low dose of test, and slowly increase it over time.
2. Keep your estrogen in range either using a secondary compound or an ai.
3. Keep your blood pressure in range with either cialis or Telmisartan. (Buy a good wrist cuff)
4. Get regular bloodwork and keep it all in a spreadsheet.

If you arent a competitive bodybuilder and you're just a dude who wants to look sick, i promise you;

You dont need tren
You dont need orals
You dont need insulin
You dont need a million exotic compounds.

Im not an expert on PEDS by any means.

I will gladly take time out of my day for free for anyone who is new to PEDS and wants some BASIC GUIDANCE.

Because thats what most people need. Just basic guidance.

By all means, if you have dreams of doing more, hire a good coach. Be honest with yourself though. If you just want to be a recreational enhanced bodybuilder, you can achieve everything you want with test plus something for estrogen plus something for blood pressure.

 

[UnclePoon]

Something that i dont quite understand is why so many people hire coaches if they arent competing.

Please guys, AAS use can be incredibly simple.

1. Start at a low dose of test, and slowly increase it over time.
2. Keep your estrogen in range either using a secondary compound or an ai.
3. Keep your blood pressure in range with either cialis or Telmisartan. (Buy a good wrist cuff)
4. Get regular bloodwork and keep it all in a spreadsheet.

If you arent a competitive bodybuilder and you're just a dude who wants to look sick, i promise you;

You dont need tren
You dont need orals
You dont need insulin
You dont need a million exotic compounds.

Im not an expert on PEDS by any means.

I will gladly take time out of my day for free for anyone who is new to PEDS and wants some BASIC GUIDANCE.

Because thats what most people need. Just basic guidance.

By all means, if you have dreams of doing more, hire a good coach. Be honest with yourself though. If you just want to be a recreational enhanced bodybuilder, you can achieve everything you want with test plus something for estrogen plus something for blood pressure.

My friend.
Whats the point of getting blood work, tracking it and adjusting things - if you don't know how to read it.

People who are more health risk adverse or have complications can't be treated the same way as another person - we all know everyone's body's different just go through this forum for simple ratios between Test and Mast or Test and Primo.

A few examples:
History of High BP - Undiagnosed and untreated - now starts TRT - that person is a hyper responder -Boom you have breathing issues that Cialis won't fix nor BP medication.

It's not as simple for some people - and so having an educated leading hand is highly beneficial.

Other examples:
Mediterriean people are large populace carries of Thalassemia so having high HCT levels isn't quite as scary - another example.
Indeginous people have smaller nephrons in the kidney - more prone to diabetes than the average human.
There's a bunch of variables that a health profile can relate to that changes tactices when applying PED's.

I guess your question was aimed at a niche persona in the PED world:
For anyone just wanting to look jacked and aren't as health conscious - then I don't see the point in a coach either - cause anyone online can tell you quite simply to blast and cruise and can find general advice for that type of individual.


We all hire people who have more knowledge so that we have a hand to hold, when we don't feel safe or out of our depth.
Why hire anyone to do anything to help you if you can do it yourself, well, you might be able to - other people can't brother haha

I do PED coaching but only from a health perspective - dialing in males hormones - (I'm a health practitioner) I don't do the body building side of things like dieting and workouts/programs - and there's a large range of people from different places sticking their nose in the PED world with vastly different responses - and they have NO idea what to do when they face an issue.

Wrote this one up without too much editing i'm at work haha but I hope that makes sense brother

 

[Trumpy]

Something that i dont quite understand is why so many people hire coaches if they arent competing.

Please guys, AAS use can be incredibly simple.

1. Start at a low dose of test, and slowly increase it over time.
2. Keep your estrogen in range either using a secondary compound or an ai.
3. Keep your blood pressure in range with either cialis or Telmisartan. (Buy a good wrist cuff)
4. Get regular bloodwork and keep it all in a spreadsheet.

If you arent a competitive bodybuilder and you're just a dude who wants to look sick, i promise you;

You dont need tren
You dont need orals
You dont need insulin
You dont need a million exotic compounds.

Im not an expert on PEDS by any means.

I will gladly take time out of my day for free for anyone who is new to PEDS and wants some BASIC GUIDANCE.

Because thats what most people need. Just basic guidance.

By all means, if you have dreams of doing more, hire a good coach. Be honest with yourself though. If you just want to be a recreational enhanced bodybuilder, you can achieve everything you want with test plus something for estrogen plus something for blood pressure.

Not gonna lie bro, this is a terrible take.

Why does anyone get a coach? To guide them through processes they are either ignorant of, or don’t know how to optimise.

A coach removes most of the guess work, heavily reduces the volume of trial and error, and can massively increase the rate of growth relative to what a regular person might otherwise achieve alone.

I have tonnes of people who come to me with niggles, injuries and shit. I’m not going to tell them to figure it out themselves when I can make the necessary corrections immediately.

 

[Nasser1997o2]

My friend.
Whats the point of getting blood work, tracking it and adjusting things - if you don't know how to read it.

People who are more health risk adverse or have complications can't be treated the same way as another person - we all know everyone's body's different just go through this forum for simple ratios between Test and Mast or Test and Primo.

A few examples:
History of High BP - Undiagnosed and untreated - now starts TRT - that person is a hyper responder -Boom you have breathing issues that Cialis won't fix nor BP medication.

It's not as simple for some people - and so having an educated leading hand is highly beneficial.

Other examples:
Mediterriean people are large populace carries of Thalassemia so having high HCT levels isn't quite as scary - another example.
Indeginous people have smaller nephrons in the kidney - more prone to diabetes than the average human.
There's a bunch of variables that a health profile can relate to that changes tactices when applying PED's.

I guess your question was aimed at a niche persona in the PED world:
For anyone just wanting to look jacked and aren't as health conscious - then I don't see the point in a coach either - cause anyone online can tell you quite simply to blast and cruise and can find general advice for that type of individual.


We all hire people who have more knowledge so that we have a hand to hold, when we don't feel safe or out of our depth.
Why hire anyone to do anything to help you if you can do it yourself, well, you might be able to - other people can't brother haha

I do PED coaching but only from a health perspective - dialing in males hormones - (I'm a health practitioner) I don't do the body building side of things like dieting and workouts/programs - and there's a large range of people from different places sticking their nose in the PED world with vastly different responses - and they have NO idea what to do when they face an issue.

Wrote this one up without too much editing i'm at work haha but I hope that makes sense brother

That makes sense my man for sure.

My stance was more aimed at the guys who are realistically just regular hobbiest lifters

Not gonna lie bro, this is a terrible take.

Why does anyone get a coach? To guide them through processes they are either ignorant of, or don’t know how to optimise.

A coach removes most of the guess work, heavily reduces the volume of trial and error, and can massively increase the rate of growth relative to what a regular person might otherwise achieve alone.

I have tonnes of people who come to me with niggles, injuries and shit. I’m not going to tell them to figure it out themselves when I can make the necessary corrections immediately.

Thats fair criticism i wont argue

 

[Nasser1997o2]

I will admit that I come from a place of ignorance when it comes to everyone's own knowledge of the use of peds.

I also take a very health conscious focus on ped use.

I do know how to read my own bloodwork, but i understand that alot of people might not be able to.

I wouldn't attempt to do my own plumbing work, so yes I was wrong.

 

[wolf#85]

That makes sense my man for sure.

My stance was more aimed at the guys who are realistically just regular hobbiest lifters

Thats fair criticism i wont argue

Bro hobbyist or professional the goal post are the same, if you don't know you pay someone to help you. You can learn on your own but with no guidance it's not know. Coaches are paid to take guess work ork. That's my take

 

[Chopper25]

Sorry Swcc. I said my piece about you on the other forum, and I also believe I am the reason why you got banned from it too. Nothing I did personally, but I did manage to bring your true colours out. Now that I am reading other people comments, I can relate to them because I went through the same thing, and people do have a right to know about your coaching method.

I signed up to Scww at the beginning of the year and had a goal to put on

what about the client who joined swcc with a serious heart condition such as heart failure, with swcc knowing that, bloke just wanted to simply loose weight but pushed him on heavy asf doses and he left swcc that week. @Trumpy can verify this

I think that would be me you are talking about. Yes I had heart failure about 4 years back and went to him with a goal to put on weight and then do a cut for the last for months. Told him I was on apixiban, bisoprolol, perindoprol etc. He had me on 1000mg test, 400 deca, 250 e, 5iu GH, 10iu lantus, 5iu novo pre and post, t3, t4. One stage I told him that I was delaying really achy in the joints all over and he said, I don't know, I'm not a doctor or physio. Maybe go and see one. Also had me on clen too. Ended up going to hospital via ambulance where I remained in hospital for a few days with AF. I sent him a text when I got home to chat and he said he was too busy to call, and leave a message with any questions. I thought you wouldn't even treat an animal like that.

Also when I was approaching my cutting phase, he dropped my carbohydrates to a low level and told me to keep everything else the same regarding peds and training. I sent him a text later to say, shouldn't I drop the insulin if my carbs are lowered and he replied, yes take out the slin. Luckily I have a fair understanding about this stuff and if I did want he said, I could be dead to this day.

I made a comment on his coaching page on the other forum and touched a nerve with him. Then he bagged me saying, all I wanted to do was take large amounts of gear, called me an old poofter, said I didn't follow anything he advised and so on. The only thing I didn't follow was three exercises at the gym because they didn't have those machines. Everything else I followed exactly what he said to do.

I said my piece on the forum and he not long got booted off. I still have every message saved to prove it.

I will agree with the other guys. Swcc is dangerous and should not be coaching. I could have died twice following his protocol. His messages and check ins were always short and sweet. I said at one stage my sex drive is killed, and my joints all over a really aching. I said should I get bloods taken and he said it's up to you. I felt like he had no time of day to put any effort into training me. Also one stage I asked told him I could only get masteron prop and not enethate. He cracked the shits with me as he was down Melbourne preparing for a comp and wanted no contact. I thought, if you haven't got the time to talk, why take money off me.

I then signed up to coach Gainsman and the difference was out of this world. Gainsman was have long conversations on the phone, always left detailed voice messages about things, explained things really well to me and had a lot of time to coach. I've been training for 36 years and I'm not a dumb cunt, but wanted a coach to get me to a competition level, just not compete.

I also heard a whisper that he used to be a support worker and used to take advantages of the clients he looked after. Can't exactly remember in what way, but he is a dog. I don't think he will reply to my comment here as he knows I am right in what I am saying about him, also I have proof. I. Wouldn't have gone this far with it all, it's only because of his insults and utter lies he said about me I chose to put it up on the forum. Happy to share the messages with the admin team here to get him booted off as a coach.

 

[Chopper25]

I keep hearing this and am yet to understand who the hell you are talking about? When did i push a massive cycle on someone with heart failure? Show me the evidence because clearly i have 0 idea who the hell you are even on aboit

That would be me Swcc. I think you remember quite well.

 

[Chopper25]

Sorry Swcc. I said my piece about you on the other forum, and I also believe I am the reason why you got banned from it too. Nothing I did personally, but I did manage to bring your true colours out. Now that I am reading other people comments, I can relate to them because I went through the same thing, and people do have a right to know about your coaching method.

I signed up to Scww at the beginning of the year and had a goal to put on

I think that would be me you are talking about. Yes I had heart failure about 4 years back and went to him with a goal to put on weight and then do a cut for the last for months. Told him I was on apixiban, bisoprolol, perindoprol etc. He had me on 1000mg test, 400 deca, 250 e, 5iu GH, 10iu lantus, 5iu novo pre and post, t3, t4. One stage I told him that I was delaying really achy in the joints all over and he said, I don't know, I'm not a doctor or physio. Maybe go and see one. Also had me on clen too. Ended up going to hospital via ambulance where I remained in hospital for a few days with AF. I sent him a text when I got home to chat and he said he was too busy to call, and leave a message with any questions. I thought you wouldn't even treat an animal like that.

Also when I was approaching my cutting phase, he dropped my carbohydrates to a low level and told me to keep everything else the same regarding peds and training. I sent him a text later to say, shouldn't I drop the insulin if my carbs are lowered and he replied, yes take out the slin. Luckily I have a fair understanding about this stuff and if I did want he said, I could be dead to this day.

I made a comment on his coaching page on the other forum and touched a nerve with him. Then he bagged me saying, all I wanted to do was take large amounts of gear, called me an old poofter, said I didn't follow anything he advised and so on. The only thing I didn't follow was three exercises at the gym because they didn't have those machines. Everything else I followed exactly what he said to do.

I said my piece on the forum and he not long got booted off. I still have every message saved to prove it.

I will agree with the other guys. Swcc is dangerous and should not be coaching. I could have died twice following his protocol. His messages and check ins were always short and sweet. I said at one stage my sex drive is killed, and my joints all over a really aching. I said should I get bloods taken and he said it's up to you. I felt like he had no time of day to put any effort into training me. Also one stage I asked told him I could only get masteron prop and not enethate. He cracked the shits with me as he was down Melbourne preparing for a comp and wanted no contact. I thought, if you haven't got the time to talk, why take money off me.

I then signed up to coach Gainsman and the difference was out of this world. Gainsman was have long conversations on the phone, always left detailed voice messages about things, explained things really well to me and had a lot of time to coach. I've been training for 36 years and I'm not a dumb cunt, but wanted a coach to get me to a competition level, just not compete.

I also heard a whisper that he used to be a support worker and used to take advantages of the clients he looked after. Can't exactly remember in what way, but he is a dog. I don't think he will reply to my comment here as he knows I am right in what I am saying about him, also I have proof. I. Wouldn't have gone this far with it all, it's only because of his insults and utter lies he said about me I chose to put it up on the forum. Happy to share the messages with the admin team here to get him booted off as a coach.

Sorry a few spelling mistake. 250 EQ is one of them. So test E 1000mg, deca 400mg, EQ 250mg. Also wanted me to take Albuterol. Was also on SLU, Lcarnitine, also was about to go to 140mg tren stating the cut. Anadrol was coming in later on too.

 

[GredDoucette11]

Sorry a few spelling mistake. 250 EQ is one of them. So test E 1000mg, deca 400mg, EQ 250mg. Also wanted me to take Albuterol. Was also on SLU, Lcarnitine, also was about to go to 140mg tren stating the cut. Anadrol was coming in later on too.

holy fuck, but but but “i don’t have clients on more then 1g” screenshots say it all

 

[Chopper25]

holy fuck, but but but “i don’t have clients on more then 1g” screenshots say it all

I should have known better so I partly blame myself. Been cycling gear for over 30 years now. Just left everything in his hands. Silly me.