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The rare occasions it did happen i learnt my lesson, call it what you want, but it was the wrong thing to do, i never wanted to make beef but clearly its taken much harsher than i anticipated, so there thats my honest truth
I asked you why you did it, not if it happened. I know it happened. Saying it was rare is irrelevant, and could easily be a lie rooted in self preservation.
 
I asked you why you did it, not if it happened. I know it happened. Saying it was rare is irrelevant, and could easily be a lie rooted in self preservation.
I can’t see it would make a difference to you if you knew the why, you’re just fuelling the fire.
 
There appears to a whole lot you don’t know, hence why you’re asking so many questions, yet you’re still providing a strong opinion. What’s different?
Do you see me asking what happened, or am I asking why he did it?

Think before you speak, and stop playing devil’s advocate. It doesn’t work when you’re ignorant.
 
Tell that to Ash lol. If you’re taking his side you’re also a shit cunt
my views are impartial, im on nobody’s side here but im seeing more idiocracys in those against ash, you’ve all done a fine job ousting him and he is apologising, what else do you want.
 
I asked you why you did it, not if it happened. I know it happened. Saying it was rare is irrelevant, and could easily be a lie rooted in self preservation.
Man what do you want me to say? "I want money" ok thats a goid enough answer, is it not? I just want this to be done with, gregs got his money, everyone else can have their opinions of me, im focussing on my bodybuilding and my career, it doesnt need to go further than after we wrap this up does it
 
Man what do you want me to say? "I want money" ok thats a goid enough answer, is it not? I just want this to be done with, gregs got his money, everyone else can have their opinions of me, im focussing on my bodybuilding and my career, it doesnt need to go further than after we wrap this up does it
Literally all I’m seeking is the truth. If “I wanted money” is the answer then it’s the answer.

Anyway I’m off to the gym, I’d ask more questions but I’m short on time rn.
 
Literally all I’m seeking is the truth. If “I wanted money” is the answer then it’s the answer.

Anyway I’m off to the gym, I’d ask more questions but I’m short on time rn.
Well i want my life to go back to being peaceful so if thats all id like to do just that, it doesnt need to go further
 
Well i want my life to go back to being peaceful so if thats all id like to do just that, it doesnt need to go further
You pissed off a lot of people and have routinely avoided accountability. As far as I can tell, Greg only got his money back because a third party pressured you, or perhaps it was an extremely uncanny coincidence :P big doubts.

You fucked with vendors and clients, I’m not sure peace comes quickly when you develop that reputation.

Peace might come with transparency and accountability though. 🤷🏼‍♂️
 
You pissed off a lot of people and have routinely avoided accountability. As far as I can tell, Greg only got his money back because a third party pressured you, or perhaps it was an extremely uncanny coincidence :P big doubts.

You fucked with vendors and clients, I’m not sure peace comes quickly when you develop that reputation.

Peace might come with transparency and accountability though. 🤷🏼‍♂️
alright Judge Judy, tell us more
 
my views are impartial, im on nobody’s side here but im seeing more idiocracys in those against ash, you’ve all done a fine job ousting him and he is apologising, what else do you want.
You’re clearly on his side bro 😆 if you see more idiocracy’s in the messages against ash and not the ones he’s written himself you’re just as delusional

What do i want? I want to see him suffer and deal with the responsibilities of his actions, and take some accountability for what he’s done for once. Also wanted to shed some light on how shit of a coach and human being he is and how badly he’s treated so many clients. He’s a compulsive liar with drug issues and a personality disorder - knowing the full backstory, nothing he’s said in this thread has been a 100% truth

I can’t tell if he’s talking shit to save face, or if he genuinely believes the shit he speaks. He’s so delusional it’s like talking to a brick wall

Ash, genuinely get therapy and mental help. You’re clearly not right in the head
 
You’re clearly on his side bro 😆 if you see more idiocracy’s in the messages against ash and not the ones he’s written himself you’re just as delusional

What do i want? I want to see him suffer and deal with the responsibilities of his actions, and take some accountability for what he’s done for once. Also wanted to shed some light on how shit of a coach and human being he is and how badly he’s treated so many clients. He’s a compulsive liar with drug issues and a personality disorder - knowing the full backstory, nothing he’s said in this thread has been a 100% truth

I can’t tell if he’s talking shit to save face, or if he genuinely believes the shit he speaks. He’s so delusional it’s like talking to a brick wall

Ash, genuinely get therapy and mental help. You’re clearly not right in the head
I wouldn’t waste any more time with this blow in, he’s not relevant.
 
Hey guys.

I'm new here. You all sound like a lovely bunch of blokes. That swcc oak seems like his e2 is a little out of control, the coach needs coaching lol.

I figured and thought I would jump on here. I hope no vendor sells to you @Swcc the fact you get free gear and sell to others. Then write on bottles like a 5 year old child. Even my nephew writes in better handwriting. Not to mention the fact if you actually wrote it on the piece of paper first before sticking it on the bottle it would look more convincing.

Sounds like your needing a bit of coin. Might have to learn how to make steroids now. As no vendor will sell to you Ash.

Have a lovely day
Undercutter
 
You’re clearly on his side bro 😆 if you see more idiocracy’s in the messages against ash and not the ones he’s written himself you’re just as delusional

What do i want? I want to see him suffer and deal with the responsibilities of his actions, and take some accountability for what he’s done for once. Also wanted to shed some light on how shit of a coach and human being he is and how badly he’s treated so many clients. He’s a compulsive liar with drug issues and a personality disorder - knowing the full backstory, nothing he’s said in this thread has been a 100% truth

I can’t tell if he’s talking shit to save face, or if he genuinely believes the shit he speaks. He’s so delusional it’s like talking to a brick wall

Ash, genuinely get therapy and mental help. You’re clearly not right in the head
This is unreal coming from you mate, didnt you have an ACTUAL drug addiction once? Dont go throwing shade at me for something youve admitted to, its called projection

And wanting to see someone suffer is a trait of a psycopath, so id get evaluated asap

I suggest you focus on your own life and stop worrying about mine, because im doing just fine when im not being pestered by the likes of people
Like you
 
Hey guys.

I'm new here. You all sound like a lovely bunch of blokes. That swcc oak seems like his e2 is a little out of control, the coach needs coaching lol.

I figured and thought I would jump on here. I hope no vendor sells to you @Swcc the fact you get free gear and sell to others. Then write on bottles like a 5 year old child. Even my nephew writes in better handwriting. Not to mention the fact if you actually wrote it on the piece of paper first before sticking it on the bottle it would look more convincing.

Sounds like your needing a bit of coin. Might have to learn how to make steroids now. As no vendor will sell to you Ash.

Have a lovely day
Undercutter
Nah im actually financially secure thanks bud, but thanks for your kind words, enjoy your night
 
This is unreal coming from you mate, didnt you have an ACTUAL drug addiction once? Dont go throwing shade at me for something youve admitted to, its called projection

And wanting to see someone suffer is a trait of a psycopath, so id get evaluated asap

I suggest you focus on your own life and stop worrying about mine, because im doing just fine when im not being pestered by the likes of people
Like you
I definitely did, and I’ve sold you plenty of rec drugs too with receipts to match lol

You deserve to suffer bro, I’m mates with all your ex clients and they’ve got nothing but horror stories to share about you

I’m not worried about you or your life, just fascinated by the way you respond to things getting thrown back in your face. The level of delusion you have is almost incomprehensible bro. Like i said get some mental help for your own sake or you’ll die lonely
 
I definitely did, and I’ve sold you plenty of rec drugs too with receipts to match lol

You deserve to suffer bro, I’m mates with all your ex clients and they’ve got nothing but horror stories to share about you

I’m not worried about you or your life, just fascinated by the way you respond to things getting thrown back in your face. The level of delusion you have is almost incomprehensible bro. Like i said get some mental help for your own sake or you’ll die lonely
Silence has been reached.
 
I definitely did, and I’ve sold you plenty of rec drugs too with receipts to match lol

You deserve to suffer bro, I’m mates with all your ex clients and they’ve got nothing but horror stories to share about you

I’m not worried about you or your life, just fascinated by the way you respond to things getting thrown back in your face. The level of delusion you have is almost incomprehensible bro. Like i said get some mental help for your own sake or you’ll die lonely
See the funny thing is, since i ACTUALLY am involved in the bodybuilding industry and am known and liked by other real coaches and bodybuilders ive never had more support in my life than i do now, ive been reached out to daily by athletes and coaches helping me get through this shitty time of being slandered, so no actually im very far from lonely

Oh yeah the rec drugs that i then forwarded on? Yeah thanks dude helped some people i know alot thankyou :)

And again, wishing for someone to suffer says alot about your character, i always thought you were a good guy, but true colours eventually show, and now to me your just another nobody doing nothing positive in bidybuilding, just wanting to see others as miserable as you are

Id say nice knowing ya but thatd be a lie, night LV
 
See the funny thing is, since i ACTUALLY am involved in the bodybuilding industry and am known and liked by other real coaches and bodybuilders ive never had more support in my life than i do now, ive been reached out to daily by athletes and coaches helping me get through this shitty time of being slandered, so no actually im very far from lonely

Oh yeah the rec drugs that i then forwarded on? Yeah thanks dude helped some people i know alot thankyou :)

And again, wishing for someone to suffer says alot about your character, i always thought you were a good guy, but true colours eventually show, and now to me your just another nobody doing nothing positive in bidybuilding, just wanting to see others as miserable as you are

Id say nice knowing ya but thatd be a lie, night LV
That is actually funny 😂 good night bro

In all seriousness I genuinely hope you get the help you need and you’re able to look back on this part of your life and think ‘what the fuck was I doing’
 
That is actually funny 😂 good night bro

In all seriousness I genuinely hope you get the help you need and you’re able to look back on this part of your life and think ‘what the fuck was I doing’
I hope you can look back one day and go "fuck i was a bandwaggoner and didnt have two brain cells to rub together"
 
Devils advocate here. If SWCC is half as bad as others make out then it 100% needs sorting but the OP has hair on his balls (just) and needs to take SOME responsibility.

Little back story, I’m fresh 20 years old. i signed up with Swcc Coaaching to get some guidance on a cycle after being on trt for a few years myself

Why is a 20 year old on TRT 'for a few years'. Now I agree with 1 members reply re getting good advice from a reliable coach. Here's some for free - stop. Just stop. You're 20, describe yourself as 'fresh' (I waited on 'innocent and virginal' too) yet wanted advice on running PEDS. If you thought you needed to eat more then DO SO. What the heck is staying on the same intake gonna do? If I pay for something (info from an 'expert') then you can be damn sure I'll ask questions.

People mention 'multiple forum banning'... mention those forums. Less 2nd hand 'what I heard and more names, proof etc
 
On clients and coaches not working out... it's a thing. It's more of a thing when they want their money back and go on various platforms kicking off. I mentioned a story from a former IFBB pro who had a client kick off over a refund when he wouldn't let her eat doughnuts 'but my last coach did'... the one you left when you didn't get lean? Yeah that.

With the odd exception most coaches aren't worth what you're happy to pay. Work harder in the gym, eat better and use PEDS in moderation. For free. Vs getting 'permission' to cruise, blast and be lazy. I accept PayPal donations lol
 
Devils advocate here. If SWCC is half as bad as others make out then it 100% needs sorting but the OP has hair on his balls (just) and needs to take SOME responsibility.

Little back story, I’m fresh 20 years old. i signed up with Swcc Coaaching to get some guidance on a cycle after being on trt for a few years myself

Why is a 20 year old on TRT 'for a few years'. Now I agree with 1 members reply re getting good advice from a reliable coach. Here's some for free - stop. Just stop. You're 20, describe yourself as 'fresh' (I waited on 'innocent and virginal' too) yet wanted advice on running PEDS. If you thought you needed to eat more then DO SO. What the heck is staying on the same intake gonna do? If I pay for something (info from an 'expert') then you can be damn sure I'll ask questions.

People mention 'multiple forum banning'... mention those forums. Less 2nd hand 'what I heard and more names, proof etc
Its just a witchhunt, what ive been dealing with for the past month, in australia we call this "tall poppy syndrome" noone in here has done anything in bodybuilding let alone stick to a meal plan for more than a few days, im banged my head against the wall here enough and they just need to stop
 
Just for a little fun your so called mate who claims "not once" on bloods and i told you youre talking shit, heres a lik screenshot of one of the sets of bloods he sent me. Ive blurred out his checkin pictures for obvious reasons, but noone here can accept that the truth isnt getting in the way of this thirst for blood
 

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Oh and another "hey i can get anadrol or tbol for free" and me clearly stating to stop thinking about drugs
 

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Ok so yes those bloods are real, I did them myself before even signing on and sent them to you after asking if you wanted to see. The turinabol question is also real, as I was asking due to being able to get it for free. I had no idea and was able to get something for free that would usually cost me a bit, who wouldn't ask?

I'm not spreading any abuse, any slander or any lies. I haven't been going around saying stupid shit and I haven't threatened anything or any one at any time.

I just wanted to state facts and explain my side of the story and will continue to do so, as well as being 100% truthful about things I have said or that are claimed about me, such as above.
 
Further to that, I also have receipts of the same conversations and such, which I don't feel a need to post to prove any points as I am not lying and have nothing to hide.
 
Ok so yes those bloods are real, I did them myself before even signing on and sent them to you after asking if you wanted to see. The turinabol question is also real, as I was asking due to being able to get it for free. I had no idea and was able to get something for free that would usually cost me a bit, who wouldn't ask?

I'm not spreading any abuse, any slander or any lies. I haven't been going around saying stupid shit and I haven't threatened anything or any one at any time.

I just wanted to state facts and explain my side of the story and will continue to do so, as well as being 100% truthful about things I have said or that are claimed about me, such as above.
notice how in the screenshot that’s the bloods sent is the VERY first ever images sent to SWCC? So clearly was before you signed up 😀
 
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