Test+Deca, Heart Palpitations

[Xupack]

Hey everyone long time lurker first time poster.

I'm 26 and have a few cycles under my belt but this has NEVER happened to me.

I started a Deca (500mg/wk) + Sustanon (500mg/wk) cycle 4 weeks ago. Last Sat (29th Nov.) I woke up at around 12PM having strange heart palpitations and it has lasted till this moment! I don't smoke or drink I don't know what's causing it and it's freaking me out!

Diet is on point. One thing worth mentioning is a day before having these palpitations I ate around 9 scrambled eggs. Could it be due to the high cholesterol content? If so, shouldn't it stop by now?

Also, I'm shooting 7ius of Humulin R (only on training days) after my post workout shake and drinking around a gallon of water a day. No stimulants, whatsoever (dislike coffee and don't use pre workout drinks)

They're extremely annoying, my heart would beat normally then skip a beat then race for a second then back to normal and so on..

Should I stop the cycle and go into PCT? Could it be the Deca? I've used this exact same cycle before (with enanthate instead of sustanon) and it went fine.

 

[RickRock13]

That's strange, but I would check your pulse for irregularity, check BP, etc. it doesn't sound like anything to mess with so it may be in your best interest to drop the cycle

 

[Xupack]

That's strange, but I would check your pulse for irregularity, check BP, etc. it doesn't sound like anything to mess with so it may be in your best interest to drop the cycle

Thanks for the reply, Rick.

My pulse is definitely irregular and my BP always goes up a bit when cycling.

I've already dropped the Deca while doing my last shot (Monday). I will only shoot the Sustanon this Thursday, to at least let the Deca run a little bit low before dropping the whole cycle, then I'll simply go into PCT.

What a shame I've gotten the best 4-week results from this cycle compared to any other cycle I've done before.

Should I take beta blockers, in the mean time? I have access to propranolol.

 

[GOTGrowth]

I advise you to discontinue the use of anabolic steroids and go see a doctor to make sure that everything is working properly.

 

[meathead96]

Always best to take the smart route and stop and see a doc to make sure its nothing serious.

 

[pepe le'douche]

sounds like the gear is strong!!!

high test doses do that

 

[pepe ledouche]

sustanon does that to me when i go over 600mg week


what brand is it ?

because i want what you have!!!!!!

 

[miplank]

You need to see your Doc and have an ECG done. If it's a random occurrence they'll send you home w/a portable ECG (Holter Monitor) to wear to record so they can see what it's doing when it happens.


Sounds like Paroxysmal supraventricular tachycardia (PSVT)



How long do the episodes last?

 

[Xupack]

sustanon does that to me when i go over 600mg week


what brand is it ?

because i want what you have!!!!!!

Both are Thaiger.

 

[Xupack]

I advise you to discontinue the use of anabolic steroids and go see a doctor to make sure that everything is working properly.

Will do. I'll start PCT on the 15th.

 

[Xupack]

You need to see your Doc and have an ECG done. If it's a random occurrence they'll send you home w/a portable ECG (Holter Monitor) to wear to record so they can see what it's doing when it happens.


Sounds like Paroxysmal supraventricular tachycardia (PSVT)



How long do the episodes last?

Well, this may freak someone out, but they never stop actually. Whenever I check my pulse it's irregular.

The strange thing is I can sleep fine, there's no dizziness, shortness of breath or chest pain (PSVT symptoms).

Should I avoid working out until I get it checked out? Because I do experience shortness of breath during my workouts, which I believe is normal but you never know.

 

[miplank]

What is your heart rate during an episode? How high is it getting?

 

[miplank]

I have PSVT and don't get chest pains or dizziness, shortness of breath or any of that.


At first what you have sounds very similar to myself, but if it's nonstop you have got something else going on.


Don't fuck around w/your heart. Go get an ECG

 

[Xupack]

What is your heart rate during an episode? How high is it getting?

It doesn't get that high at all. The highest I measured it while resting was 90, it's usually 70-80.

It's just irregular.

 

[miplank]

Hmm..not sure bro.

Like I said i'd go get an ECG just to be safe. Could be something really minor and not a big deal but you don't wanna ignore it. Your heart is kind of important LOL!


Most likely they'll put you on some sort of beta blocker, but I dunno. Need to figure out what exactly is the problem first.


Let us know how it turns out.

 

[Xupack]

Yeah, I'm going either way. I'll take an appointment tomorrow. It'll be weird going to a cardiologist when I'm only 26 haha. Hopefully it's nothing major.

Thanks, plank!

 

[miplank]

I had one around 24-26..can't remember exactly.


It's not a big deal....If it's not doing it while you're there they'll send you home w/a portable monitor to wear.

I ended up having enough of it one night and just went to the ER because I didn't know wtf was wrong so I got mine done while it was happening.

good luck!

 

[Xupack]

It's not annoying enough to get me to go to the ER.

I just had a thought, could it be caused by overtraining? Although, I don't think I am, my strength/size are both going up. If I'm overtraining I don't think I'd be getting stronger.

 

[miplank]

I dunno man..that's why you just need to get it checked out. Doesn't sound serious, but you dunno. So many things can cause what you're experiencing.

It could be as simple as Stress, anxiety, exercise, caffeine intake, nicotine intake, etc or something more serious like heart disease, heart valve, overactive thyroid, etc etc.

 

[gymrat827]

go see a doc, get bloodwork, stop all compounds.

 

[dylangemelli]

it could be several things... the FIRST thing i would do is get an ekg and see if there are irregularities with your heart etc... i would be very hesitant to be using gear with symptoms like that

 

[Xupack]

I already stopped all compounds. My las injection was on Monday.

Went to the ER, had ECG done and was told I have Atrial Fibrillation. Gonna have to spend the night at the hospital tomorrow.

Guess this will be my last cycle. Shit is getting too risky to me.

Thanks everyone!

 

[hurricane]

Hey everyone long time lurker first time poster.

I'm 26 and have a few cycles under my belt but this has NEVER happened to me.

I started a Deca (500mg/wk) + Sustanon (500mg/wk) cycle 4 weeks ago. Last Sat (29th Nov.) I woke up at around 12PM having strange heart palpitations and it has lasted till this moment! I don't smoke or drink I don't know what's causing it and it's freaking me out!

Diet is on point. One thing worth mentioning is a day before having these palpitations I ate around 9 scrambled eggs. Could it be due to the high cholesterol content? If so, shouldn't it stop by now?

Also, I'm shooting 7ius of Humulin R (only on training days) after my post workout shake and drinking around a gallon of water a day. No stimulants, whatsoever (dislike coffee and don't use pre workout drinks)

They're extremely annoying, my heart would beat normally then skip a beat then race for a second then back to normal and so on..

Should I stop the cycle and go into PCT? Could it be the Deca? I've used this exact same cycle before (with enanthate instead of sustanon) and it went fine.

For starts you need to go see a doctor.Anything heart related is nothing to play with

 

[Xupack]

Well, I just wanted to let everyone know how things turned out.

Spent about 3 days in the hospital. Got blood drawn every 5 freakin hours. Everything turned out to be normal, nothing concerning. Got Echogram, showing a mildly dilated left ventricle (which I understand is normal for lifters) then got TEE, which is an Echogram with a tube shoved down your throat (not a pleasant experience AT ALL!), which again showed normal heart function.

After all that bullshit they finally performed cardioversion, which basically means they knock you out with anaesthesia, and shock your heart with around 75-100 joules. And now everything is back to normal.

The doctors don't know what caused the Atrial Fibrillation they finally gave up and told me it was an isolated incident and now I'm not allowed to workout for "a few weeks" according to the doctor's recommendation. One of the other doctors said I should give up weightlifting for good! Is he serious? I have no idea..but I'm definitely going back to the gym in a couple of weeks, did some pushups/rows/curls/extensions/body weight squats with some light dumbbells lying around my place and DAMN did that feel good after lying down for 3 days.

 

[pepe ledouche]

so basicly your fine

give up stims and rec drugs if you want to have a long lasting relationship with fitness

 

[Xupack]

so basicly your fine

give up stims and rec drugs if you want to have a long lasting relationship with fitness

Wow, presumptuous much, bro?

As I mentioned previously, I never use stims, can't remember the last time I had a cup of coffee or a pre workout drink. And rec drugs? Never touched any in my life. I don't even drink.

But thanks for the advice, either way.