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broscience

broscience

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current set up:

1-12 GW 20mg ed
4-12 ostarine 25mg ed
4-12 hcgenerate
4-12 aromasin 12.5 e3d
1-12 n2guard
1-12 yohiflame
1-12 n2burn

my thoughts on adding:

1-12 GW 20mg ed
4-12 ostarine 25mg ed
4-12 hcgenerate
4-12 aromasin 12.5 e3d
1-12 n2guard
1-12 yohiflame
1-12 n2burn
**7-12 proviron 25mg ed**
**13-25 test E 200mg/week**
**12-17 tren a 50mg ed**
**12-25 caber**
**13-25 n2guard**
**13-25 aromasin e3d**
**13-25 hcgenerate**
**22-25 winny 50mg ed?** (maybe)

**25 HCG 1000iu/week (will i need this?)
**26 HCG 2000iu/week
**27 HCG 2000iu/week

pct:8 weeks
1-8 hcgenerate es
1-8 n2guard
1-8 aromasin 12.5 e3d
1-8 clomid 25/25/25/25/25/25/0/0
1-8 ostarine 25mg ed
9-16 gw 20mg ed

any thoughts and comments are appreciated thanks ahead of time.
 
As for a "cutting" cycle, it certainly looks like it'll work. Why not add some Mast?
 
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if i were to take winny towards the end of my cycle taking HCG would be important i think. but if i dont then i wouldn't need it right?

and to Nelson: i am taking proviron 7-12 25 mg ed. i dont know if i could get mast thats the only thing.
 
350mg isn't a low dose.. tren is a fucking beast. But with ace you can alway drop down quickly if shit goes downhill but you should be good. Test is low and that really reduces side. I would still run hcg but at half the doses you are planning..

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Def true bonacris...maybe i should drop it down a little more?

I thinking of dropping it to: 250/week

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broscience said:
Def true bonacris...maybe i should drop it down a little more?

I thinking of dropping it to: 250/week

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It's completely user dependant. My very 1st time I started at 300. I ended up at 500.

This next run I'm starting at 500 from the get go but reviews of my source have said that there tren is almost over dosed so it could easily be dropped down depending on sides..



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Also i been worried about the Hairloss from the Tren and also winny......how significant is the hair loss for those who took it?

I had a decent amount of hair loss on my last test cyp EQ and var cycle. After off tho, the hair is starting to come back. I am afraid that by the time i finish my next cycle my 4-head would look like a 10-head.....
 
I definitely shed hair on tren. Didn't seem to affect my hairline but kind of an all over affect.. However my hair was longer so I noticed it more. I keep my hair tighter now so I don't notice as much..

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Mine is back to being as thick as ever but there was definitely more in the shower than ever before when on tren.

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Hey bro like your cycle. What was your goals with this one? Looks like cutting. I would like to try something like this in the future but I would probably run tren lower dose.

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Francofranco said:
Hey bro like your cycle. What was your goals with this one? Looks like cutting. I would like to try something like this in the future but I would probably run tren lower dose.

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Thanks man its def a cut cycle.
Im trying tren for the first time and im going ti start off doing low doses to see how my body reacts. I would like to gain lean mass as much as possible.

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broscience said:
Damn.....that worries me man. How bout acne?

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None. A few spots on Monday because I would have a take away on Sunday night.. that was it..

Hair is back and fuller than ever with NPP

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broscience said:
Also i been worried about the Hairloss from the Tren and also winny......how significant is the hair loss for those who took it?

I had a decent amount of hair loss on my last test cyp EQ and var cycle. After off tho, the hair is starting to come back. I am afraid that by the time i finish my next cycle my 4-head would look like a 10-head.....
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if you are prone,it could be significant.There is no exact answer here, its a case by case basis.
 
I don't know how experienced you are, but this looks like a cycle I would have dreamed up when I was new to steroids. I would plan out a months-long cycle of non-steroidal supplements that I would be meant to lead up to an actual cycle of steroids. You are WAY over-doing this cycle, just like I always did. I don't mean you're doses are too high, you are actually showing impressive restraint. A better way to put it would be that you are over-thinking this cycle.

I suggest you decide whether you're going to add test and/or tren and/or winstrol or not. If you're going to use them, then I suggest cutting out the first 12 weeks of your cycle. And if you're going to use aas, I suggest sticking with tren and test, and, frankly, dropping the winstrol. All these extras are unnecessary, unless you are an extremely advanced user seeking every possible advantage, however small. Which is what I once did myself

Ironically, though I can no longer consider myself an advanced user (I've been out of the game a while) years ago, by the time I actually became an advanced user, I had dropped all the extras. I simply went with test and tren every time, an eca stack, a little arimidex and a little clomid (for gyno, no hope of stimulating test production while on those aas, except with hcg.) My post cycle therapy consisted of arimidex (tapering off quickly) and clomid (which I would stay on for a while.) And it worked. Really, really well. I kept track of my blood pressure, if it got high i cut back on the eca, or increased the arimidex, or both. Now, at the time there wasn't anything effective around for prolactin, so maybe today I would add something in if I had the money.

Just because that worked for me doesn't mean it was ideal, or that it was the absolute best I could possibly do. But then, there's no such thing as the perfect cycle. You are clearly (admirably) concerned about side effects, but if you're going to use aas, there are simply going to be side effects. You can prevent some, but you can't escape all of them.
 
Madrun said:
I don't know how experienced you are, but this looks like a cycle I would have dreamed up when I was new to steroids. I would plan out a months-long cycle of non-steroidal supplements that I would be meant to lead up to an actual cycle of steroids. You are WAY over-doing this cycle, just like I always did. I don't mean you're doses are too high, you are actually showing impressive restraint. A better way to put it would be that you are over-thinking this cycle.

I suggest you decide whether you're going to add test and/or tren and/or winstrol or not. If you're going to use them, then I suggest cutting out the first 12 weeks of your cycle. And if you're going to use aas, I suggest sticking with tren and test, and, frankly, dropping the winstrol. All these extras are unnecessary, unless you are an extremely advanced user seeking every possible advantage, however small. Which is what I once did myself

Ironically, though I can no longer consider myself an advanced user (I've been out of the game a while) years ago, by the time I actually became an advanced user, I had dropped all the extras. I simply went with test and tren every time, an eca stack, a little arimidex and a little clomid (for gyno, no hope of stimulating test production while on those aas, except with hcg.) My post cycle therapy consisted of arimidex (tapering off quickly) and clomid (which I would stay on for a while.) And it worked. Really, really well. I kept track of my blood pressure, if it got high i cut back on the eca, or increased the arimidex, or both. Now, at the time there wasn't anything effective around for prolactin, so maybe today I would add something in if I had the money.

Just because that worked for me doesn't mean it was ideal, or that it was the absolute best I could possibly do. But then, there's no such thing as the perfect cycle. You are clearly (admirably) concerned about side effects, but if you're going to use aas, there are simply going to be side effects. You can prevent some, but you can't escape all of them.
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I dont think i am over thinking this at all if you ask me. I never said im super advanced user of aas. I am a first time user and i think starting off low then tapering off is better then vice versa.

My current sarm cycle is my bridge and i am hoping that using test/tren/orals could get me to the place i want. I think the cycle layout is good but not perfect amd thats why i asked the bros to help out

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broscience said:
How supreasive is proviron if at all? Do i take it 25mg split dose?

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you will be fine with that dosage.you should have no suppression with a low to moderate dose.

To give you an idea its prescribed for low sperm count in mostly older men,
 
broscience said:
current set up:

1-12 GW 20mg ed
4-12 ostarine 25mg ed
4-12 hcgenerate
4-12 aromasin 12.5 e3d
1-12 n2guard
1-12 yohiflame
1-12 n2burn

my thoughts on adding:

1-12 GW 20mg ed
4-12 ostarine 25mg ed
4-12 hcgenerate
4-12 aromasin 12.5 e3d
1-12 n2guard
1-12 yohiflame
1-12 n2burn
**7-12 proviron 25mg ed**
**13-25 test E 200mg/week**
**12-17 tren a 50mg ed**
**12-25 caber**
**13-25 n2guard**
**13-25 aromasin e3d**
**13-25 hcgenerate**
**22-25 winny 50mg ed?** (maybe)

**25 HCG 1000iu/week (will i need this?)
**26 HCG 2000iu/week
**27 HCG 2000iu/week

pct:8 weeks
1-8 hcgenerate es
1-8 n2guard
1-8 aromasin 12.5 e3d
1-8 clomid 25/25/25/25/25/25/0/0
1-8 ostarine 25mg ed
9-16 gw 20mg ed

any thoughts and comments are appreciated thanks ahead of time.
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one of the best cycles I have seen put together. only thing I would do is swap out the hcg for T stack. see my sig for the link and codes
 
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