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Bro, you mean to tell me if I eat the food humans are supposed to be eating to begin with, and make sure I get a well rounded nutrient intake, that I don't need to chew some bullshit gummy vitamin with a cool label to compensate?

Holy fuckin news, water is wet!!
 
what's funny is that most of you don't realize your whey protein shakes are just as worthless as the multi's. Not only that, you take them immediately after your wkt which nerfs your gh response.
 
Okay, did ANYONE (besides me) actually go read the article Pdaddy linked? Second, if you read about the study that's being editorialized, they were looking for a link between decreased incidence of general death, decrease in heart incidents -- in people who had a known history of heart disease -- and a decrease in memory dysfunction, all from multivitamin use. Not, say, lower incidence of head colds or better recovery from minor injuries or logical shit like that. They actually went out to prove that multivitamins cannot decrease your risk of dying in general, reduce your chance of having more heart attacks if you've got heart disease already, or reduce your Alzheimers risk (gotta love the study participants selected for this one, BTW, nearly 6,000 men aged 65 and older were studied for 12 years). I love the final paragraph of the piece, it reads in part: "Other ... multivitamin and mineral supplements are ineffective for preventing mortality ..." Fuck me sideways, you mean a vitamin won't keep me from dying!!! You can read it here: Annals of Internal Medicine | Enough Is Enough: Stop Wasting Money on Vitamin and Mineral Supplements

They never mention the vitamins used but my money's on Centrum, One A Day and maybe those gummy things ...

/SOAPBOX: The thing about "just eat a healthy, balanced diet and you'll get all the nutrients you need". Most of our food is not local, it's being picked 1,000 or more miles away from us. For the food to survive shipping it generally has to be picked long before it hits ripe, which means long before it hits it's nutritional peak. I won't even go into the fact that soils have been stripped of their nutrients with the use of chemical fertilizers and fields that are over used, whatever. /SOAPBOX

I do believe the use of single nutrient vitamins and minerals has the potential for being dangerous, you could throw yourself out of balance very quickly unless you have a real deficiency or know what you're doing, but otherwise, unless you grow your own food or buy directly from someone who does, take a good multi, it's a cheap insurance policy and fuck the pharmaceutical industry. They want you to catch more colds so you go to your doctor asking for more antibiotics.
 
I take a multi because I don't have time to eat my daily amts every day and when I don't my hair gets brittle and yuck.

I also take cerefolin NAC (a "medical food") so I don't get any more stupid.
 
I don't ready any vegan, hippy or new age articles. Come to think of it, I don't read any articles unless it's about beer.
 
The title of this thread should be "The Multivitamin Scam"

It might get more reads. Which would be the point for a thread (or article) with a title like that.
 
lol, you obviously haven't read any of the articles.


p.s Which rule did i specifically break?

Rule #1.

Normally it's all fun to fling shit. Hell fling shit at me, I don't care. I fling back. Steve would too, but he's just too busy to be bothered. So since he can't fling it back, just don't fling it at him.
 
what's funny is that most of you don't realize your whey protein shakes are just as worthless as the multi's. Not only that, you take them immediately after your wkt which nerfs your gh response.
Meh...GH is overrated as an anabolic/cure unless you're supplementing with supra physiological amounts. My amino acid/dextrose workout concoction has maintained the gains I made using juice a decade ago.
 
Ding... Ding...Musclemom is a winner. Most studies on vitamins are self-reporting, performed on already sick people or a combination of the two. The USDA claims that 60% of Americans are deficient in magnesium and zinc. Based on empirical evidence, a deficiency of the two have an impact on cardiovascular health and testosterone in men. Likewise, I remember a study on smokers that found supplementing 400 IU's of vitamin E had no effect on the rate of lung cancer in smokers....duh! It's an insurance policy, not a cure.
 
They have pharma grade vitamins like cerefolin NAC FOR Alzheimers. I bet that they didn't use that in their study either bc it's like 250 bucks a bottle.
 
Rule #1.

Normally it's all fun to fling shit. Hell fling shit at me, I don't care. I fling back. Steve would too, but he's just too busy to be bothered. So since he can't fling it back, just don't fling it at him.




Sorry. Sometimes I don't know why I gotta be so ugly.
 
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My D was so low I had to take 3 pills a day of the strongest over the counter dosage, hubby's was so low he had to get prescribed clinical strength vitamin D... fucking sun... :mad:
 
If you guys honestly think you can get all the nutrients you need from food alone for optimal health and performance then I got a bridge in new york to sell ya.

If you believe we can get ALL nutrients from food alone then it also means you must believe the bullshit the FDA pedals about recommended daily intake for the same nutrients. WHich goes right into you buying into the bullhit about the body mass index and that everyone who is 5'10" should weigh 170 lbs or your fat.

our food sources are from the same soil thats been used for the last 100 years and has had many of its nutrients depleted, cows being force fed corn which isnt their natural food source. 100 years ago you probably could get what you needed from food but not anymore. Add on top of it we are inundated with toxins every day, which destroys antioxidants and actually increases are need for them and there is no way in hell your getting whats needed.

Docs are ignorant and know nothing about nutrition. Big pharma doesnt want you taking supplements because they dont want you healthy. There is no money in a healthy population. They want you to waddle up to the prescription trough and keep paying them month after month for drugs that dont cure anything only address symptoms.


The FDA is in the pocket if big pharma and there is no money in a healthy population so of course they dont want you taking supplements.


Most studies that show vitamins/minerals as ineffective is because they are not addressing the whole deficiency or they simply arent apply enough of the needed vitamin/mineral. There are tens of thousands of papers done on vitamin C and pretty much everyone of them demonstrates a benefit so if there is a benefit to be hand from say 500mg vit C daily, then why does the FDA say we only need 60mg?
 
My D was so low I had to take 3 pills a day of the strongest over the counter dosage, hubby's was so low he had to get prescribed clinical strength vitamin D... fucking sun... :mad:

I also had a script for D too sometime early this year mine were so low. Lol crazy
 
Well I don't eat much fish and I highly dislike being in the sun, so fortified vitamin D products and over the counter D it is!
Bisassturd's offer is interesting though...
 
Sorry. Sometimes I don't know why I gotta be so ugly.

Me either bro. But I've noticed it a lot lately. I think you're still bitter. Hope you get better.
 
lol, im not bitter cuz i think steve is a pussy cuz he can't talk a little ribbing. He's so busy, yet he can read chat and get his man panties in a twist at a completely minor lil joke? If he was so busy he wouldn't even have time to notice what was going on in chat, right?




LOL@that bro


What it really is...is certain people hiding behind their fake authority online and when they see something they don't like out comes the censorship, but as long as it isn't about them pretty much anything goes.
 
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lol, im not bitter cuz i think steve is a pussy cuz he can't talk a little ribbing. He's so busy, yet he can read chat and get his man panties in a twist at a completely minor lil joke? If he was so busy he wouldn't even have time to notice what was going on in chat, right?




LOL@that bro


What it really is...is certain people hiding behind their fake authority online and when they see something they don't like out comes the censorship, but as long as it isn't about them pretty much anything goes.


It's not just this one incident bro.

But how about you just don't break the rules then? Then we won't have any problems.

Why you gotta make me work like this and keep making shit harder than it needs to be?
 
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