Vegans are evil

[pdaddyII]

Aren't these all also characteristics of a reduced calorie diet?

No, not even close

 

[shirlene29]

you all guzzle copious amounts of donkey nuts

 

[UA_Iron]

I think you're drinking the cool-aid.

 

[UA_Iron]

The hypothesis that suppressing carbohydrates could suppress or slow cancer growth is supported by a lot of laboratory science. The pair explain that complex carbohydrates are ultimately digested as glucose, which can cause tumor cells to proliferate....

The commonplace advice to avoid dietary fat is not a good recommendation to give cancer patients. "They should eat a lot of fat and avoid sugar," Dr. Freedland noted.

http://www.medscape.com/viewarticle/778613

we'll follow this research closely.

 

[Mr. dB]

Carrot Top is a product of vegan copulation, that's enough for me to stay away.

I think that's the product of misguided surgery.

 

[AFeedz]

Your grandma living that long doesn't mean shit, sorry. There is always the random 101 yr old lifetime smoker as well but that doesn't mean the research and numbers aren't real. How the fuck can you argue with the fact that a vegan diet has been PROVEN to stop and even reverse heart disease, our nations #1 killer? How can you argue the fact vegetarians have a lower incidence rate among ALL cancers?

The China Study is not a reference that is meant to be tailored to any specific lifestyle. With science it is very difficult for anything to ever be 100%, thus causing that 1% to be the focal point of naysayers. The scientific proof and evidence that resulted in the thorough studies almost always showed a 99% probability.

According to the most recent and most comprehensive study done vegetarians have a significantly longer life expectancy. Vegetarians live on average almost eight years longer than the general population, which is similar to the gap between smokers and nonsmokers.

I could really give a shit who wants to eat meat and who doesn't. I'm a vegetarian primarily for the health benefits and have never looked down at those that do eat meat. I do look down on those that are too uneducated or narrow minded to accept the overwhelming evidence. I also am willing to do whatever t takes to lower my chances of dying from our top three biggest killers: heart disease, cancer and stroke. I have seen countless people suffer from all of these and my personal experiences in healthcare has been enough for me to make a major lifestyle change. A vegetarian diet has been PROVEN to reduce the risks and even reverse all three of these.


Here is a link to the study, please check it out.
Kathy Freston: Why Do Vegetarians Live Longer?

So vegetarians live on average 8 years longer than the general population, you say? Women also live about that much longer than men, so I guess I can keep eating meat, you can stay vegetarian, and we'll live just about the same time.

I'm going to ignore the uneducated and narrow minded comments though, because I know those couldn't possible be referencing me when your referencing flawed studies. You sent me a link to a HuffPo article that references another HuffPo article that references a study of 7th Day Adventists' diets? Sounds very representative of the entire population.

Tell me this, you study someone who exercises, eats no meat, puts nothing else unhealthy in their body (smoke, drugs, yadda yadda). Then you study someone who does eat meat, but also isn't as likely to exercise, most certainly eats unclean/processed food, and is likely to drink/smoke/whatever. *Then* you shockingly find that one group is healthier than the other, and you're going to tell me that you've controlled all those variables enough to come out of that study saying meat is the reason? Oook.

Find me a study where those same vegetarians are compared to a person who eats meat in moderation, eats clean, puts nothing toxic in their body, and exercises exactly as much and tell me how much longer vegetarians live than those people, and I'll listen. Til then, you haven't PROVEN anything besides that processed food and toxins aren't good for you, but we all know that.

There's some interesting stuff in there though, like that about 3.7% of the Adventist (vegetarian) participants had fibromyalgia compared to the 2% national average. That's almost double. Weird.

It also says people who participate in secular activities on Saturdays have poorer physical health than those who attend church those days, so I assume I'll see you at mass this Saturday, bro?

 

[mrplunkey]

So vegetarians live on average 8 years longer than the general population, you say? Women also live about that much longer than men, so I guess I can keep eating meat, you can stay vegetarian, and we'll live just about the same time.

I'm going to ignore the uneducated and narrow minded comments though, because I know those couldn't possible be referencing me when your referencing flawed studies. You sent me a link to a HuffPo article that references another HuffPo article that references a study of 7th Day Adventists' diets? Sounds very representative of the entire population.

Tell me this, you study someone who exercises, eats no meat, puts nothing else unhealthy in their body (smoke, drugs, yadda yadda). Then you study someone who does eat meat, but also isn't as likely to exercise, most certainly eats unclean/processed food, and is likely to drink/smoke/whatever. *Then* you shockingly find that one group is healthier than the other, and you're going to tell me that you've controlled all those variables enough to come out of that study saying meat is the reason? Oook.

Find me a study where those same vegetarians are compared to a person who eats meat in moderation, eats clean, puts nothing toxic in their body, and exercises exactly as much and tell me how much longer vegetarians live than those people, and I'll listen. Til then, you haven't PROVEN anything besides that processed food and toxins aren't good for you, but we all know that.

There's some interesting stuff in there though, like that about 3.7% of the Adventist (vegetarian) participants had fibromyalgia compared to the 2% national average. That's almost double. Weird.

It also says people who participate in secular activities on Saturdays have poorer physical health than those who attend church those days, so I assume I'll see you at mass this Saturday, bro?

Agreed.

When it comes to diet, lifestyle and health it's almost impossible to tease-out causality versus correlation.

 

[zwhit]

So vegetarians live on average 8 years longer than the general population, you say? Women also live about that much longer than men, so I guess I can keep eating meat, you can stay vegetarian, and we'll live just about the same time.

I'm going to ignore the uneducated and narrow minded comments though, because I know those couldn't possible be referencing me when your referencing flawed studies. You sent me a link to a HuffPo article that references another HuffPo article that references a study of 7th Day Adventists' diets? Sounds very representative of the entire population.

Tell me this, you study someone who exercises, eats no meat, puts nothing else unhealthy in their body (smoke, drugs, yadda yadda). Then you study someone who does eat meat, but also isn't as likely to exercise, most certainly eats unclean/processed food, and is likely to drink/smoke/whatever. *Then* you shockingly find that one group is healthier than the other, and you're going to tell me that you've controlled all those variables enough to come out of that study saying meat is the reason? Oook.

Find me a study where those same vegetarians are compared to a person who eats meat in moderation, eats clean, puts nothing toxic in their body, and exercises exactly as much and tell me how much longer vegetarians live than those people, and I'll listen. Til then, you haven't PROVEN anything besides that processed food and toxins aren't good for you, but we all know that.

There's some interesting stuff in there though, like that about 3.7% of the Adventist (vegetarian) participants had fibromyalgia compared to the 2% national average. That's almost double. Weird.

It also says people who participate in secular activities on Saturdays have poorer physical health than those who attend church those days, so I assume I'll see you at mass this Saturday, bro?

aye girl, lemme grill you some pork chops

 

[AFeedz]

aye girl, lemme grill you some pork chops

:vomit:

 

[zwhit]

:vomit:

scratch that line off of my list?