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Didn't think it'd hit this fast, especially bringing my own food. Jngr needs gym time. Back's doing ok, not 100%. Stupid age and fatness.
 
Oats with whey or eggs with dry whole grain toast for breakfast, 1/2 apple with SB peanut butter for a snack, pouch tuna and celery/ carrots for lunch, almonds for snack, chx and some rice/ a lot of veg for dinner. Gallon of butter before bed. Aside from the last part I've been good for a couple of weeks. I think working at the restaurant combated my lack of gym time and I was eating so little for a while, my body isn't used to food. Gym is carefully going to be started tomorrow. I feel so old, lol.
 
Start running bro, I've been getting into it and have never felt so good in my life. It burns major calories too. And it's ok to eat whatever you want just as long as you purge.
 
That ass spreads real quickly, theres some secretaries in the process, newly marrried, just lettin that ass spread and spread, i just cover my face in remorse/disgust and shake my head at what could of been
 
Office work (especially when you are just starting) generates a ton of cortisol, which packs on the pounds. There's a shock-and-awe period at first, and then some people (and I'm guessing you will) learn to manage it.
 
dont eat the goodies laying around, even if it is a little piece that shit adds up, i lay off of it and i have no temptations, all the secretaries try to bring goodies in for me its hard as fuck
 
pdaddyII said:
Start running bro, I've been getting into it and have never felt so good in my life. It burns major calories too. And it's ok to eat whatever you want just as long as you purge.
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Yeah this is key for me too. If I am not running before work, I am packing on the lbs.
 
jiggagold said:
dont eat the goodies laying around, even if it is a little piece that shit adds up, i lay off of it and i have no temptations, all the secretaries try to bring goodies in for me its hard as fuck
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lol @ you having a secretary
 
mrplunkey said:
Office work (especially when you are just starting) generates a ton of cortisol, which packs on the pounds. There's a shock-and-awe period at first, and then some people (and I'm guessing you will) learn to manage it.
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is there anything legit to do for cortisol?
 
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We have the problem with everyone bringing left-over cakes and pies and leaving them in the office kitchenette. Luckily, I don't much care for the sweets, but just to be a douche - I usually throw all the left-overs away or move them into the shop. I don't want the admin's getting too fat. I have to look at them too.
 
youpissmeoff said:
is there anything legit to do for cortisol?
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Getting rest, not being stressed, taking in vitamin C (atleast a couple grams at a time) and PS. (Phosphatidyl Serine)
There is another anti-estrogen promoted on this site that is said to help as well. Erase is the name maybe, I'v never tried it.
 
lartinos said:
Getting rest, not being stressed, taking in vitamin C (atleast a couple grams at a time) and PS. (Phosphatidyl Serine)
There is another anti-estrogen promoted on this site that is said to help as well. Erase is the name maybe, I'v never tried it.
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I am usually pretty laid back and don't do stress at all but there are those times when you can not avoid it and it always shows up on the gut.
 
I never eat the crap people bring in. One girl brings apples and oranges and I'll snag one of those sometimes. I think it's just that I haven't worked out for so long and now I'm pretty much sitting for 8+ hrs at a time. I need to get my schedule worked out.Pool opens in a couple of months, for god's sake.
 
youpissmeoff said:
is there anything legit to do for cortisol?
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Here's how I manage it (with mixed success... sometimes it works great and sometimes it all goes to hell).

1) Get on a super-regular schedule. Sleep at the same time and wake up at the same time.

2) Routines are your friend. Make them rituals. Work at the office may be unpredictable, but your morning routine and drive into work shouldn't be. Just don't integrate anything unhealthy into that ritual (i.e. buying a big milkshake on the way into work).

3) Go easy on the stimulants. I do a fairly large (but far from monster) cup of 50% decaffeinated coffee. Then I avoid caffeine for the rest of the day. Lots of coffee in the morning can give you the late afternoon munchies that go along with a crash.

4) Embed little healthy rituals into your day (i.e. not food rituals, like a candy bar run). For me, I like to use the last 10 minutes of lunch to work a Sudoku puzzle. Sure it sounds nerdy, but it puts some ritual into each day.

5) Schedule everything you can. And don't run one of those big-shot blow-hard calendars where you tell your "girl" to give them some ridiculous date six months from now. But do organize each day at least 1-2 days in advance when possible. For some reason, a little advance notice gives our brains a chance to adjust for what's coming.

6) Small lunch... always

7) Learn to intermingle stressful and relaxing work. I love product development and research issues. I hate personnel problems and legal issues. So if I'm going to spend the afternoon in a room full of lawyers, you can bet your ass I'm going to spend the morning in a machine shop or working on a new product.

8) Maintain perspective: "There's always an Arquillian Battle Cruiser, or a Corillian Death Ray, or an intergalactic plague that is about to wipe out all life on this miserable little planet". And strangely enough, your office manager will try to convince you that you completing that TPS report before the COB today will save you all.

9) Keep in the back of your mind that many companies artificially create a crisis like (8) simply because it pumps you full of adrenaline and keeps you working harder -- but it also pumps you full of cortisol which makes you softer and more tired.

10) I've never found a cortisol-reducing supplement that actually worked for me. But that sure doesn't mean they don't exist.

I'm sure I left a few out. That was just stream of consciousness.
 
mrplunkey said:
Here's how I manage it (with mixed success... sometimes it works great and sometimes it all goes to hell).

1) Get on a super-regular schedule. Sleep at the same time and wake up at the same time.

2) Routines are your friend. Make them rituals. Work at the office may be unpredictable, but your morning routine and drive into work shouldn't be. Just don't integrate anything unhealthy into that ritual (i.e. buying a big milkshake on the way into work).

3) Go easy on the stimulants. I do a fairly large (but far from monster) cup of 50% decaffeinated coffee. Then I avoid caffeine for the rest of the day. Lots of coffee in the morning can give you the late afternoon munchies that go along with a crash.

4) Embed little healthy rituals into your day (i.e. not food rituals, like a candy bar run). For me, I like to use the last 10 minutes of lunch to work a Sudoku puzzle. Sure it sounds nerdy, but it puts some ritual into each day.

5) Schedule everything you can. And don't run one of those big-shot blow-hard calendars where you tell your "girl" to give them some ridiculous date six months from now. But do organize each day at least 1-2 days in advance when possible. For some reason, a little advance notice gives our brains a chance to adjust for what's coming.

6) Small lunch... always

7) Learn to intermingle stressful and relaxing work. I love product development and research issues. I hate personnel problems and legal issues. So if I'm going to spend the afternoon in a room full of lawyers, you can bet your ass I'm going to spend the morning in a machine shop or working on a new product.

8) Maintain perspective: "There's always an Arquillian Battle Cruiser, or a Corillian Death Ray, or an intergalactic plague that is about to wipe out all life on this miserable little planet". And strangely enough, your office manager will try to convince you that you completing that TPS report before the COB today will save you all.

9) Keep in the back of your mind that many companies artificially create a crisis like (8) simply because it pumps you full of adrenaline and keeps you working harder -- but it also pumps you full of cortisol which makes you softer and more tired.

10) I've never found a cortisol-reducing supplement that actually worked for me. But that sure doesn't mean they don't exist.

I'm sure I left a few out. That was just stream of consciousness.
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I have a grande iced coffee every morning that and I cut my fingernails every monday. Those are the only things in my life I do routinely. Fucking off the rest of the time is how I manage stress.

If I tried to be a task master, I become a dick and I don't' like that so I stopped doing it.

My only issues are when I am closing a big deal or I have a business project (day trade stock) that is not working. There is nothing I can do there but just take it as it comes.

Oh.. I, like you, sleep like shit, but I have decided to just go with it instead of taking ambient.

I do need to play more Civilization - that is what I did when I worked overseas. Good reminder there.

Used to work the crossword when going into the office but that stopped when I lost my driver. I may take that up as a lunch time break as suggested.

Thanks for that.
 
mrplunkey said:
Here's how I manage it (with mixed success... sometimes it works great and sometimes it all goes to hell).

1) Get on a super-regular schedule. Sleep at the same time and wake up at the same time.

2) Routines are your friend. Make them rituals. Work at the office may be unpredictable, but your morning routine and drive into work shouldn't be. Just don't integrate anything unhealthy into that ritual (i.e. buying a big milkshake on the way into work).

3) Go easy on the stimulants. I do a fairly large (but far from monster) cup of 50% decaffeinated coffee. Then I avoid caffeine for the rest of the day. Lots of coffee in the morning can give you the late afternoon munchies that go along with a crash.

4) Embed little healthy rituals into your day (i.e. not food rituals, like a candy bar run). For me, I like to use the last 10 minutes of lunch to work a Sudoku puzzle. Sure it sounds nerdy, but it puts some ritual into each day.

5) Schedule everything you can. And don't run one of those big-shot blow-hard calendars where you tell your "girl" to give them some ridiculous date six months from now. But do organize each day at least 1-2 days in advance when possible. For some reason, a little advance notice gives our brains a chance to adjust for what's coming.

6) Small lunch... always

7) Learn to intermingle stressful and relaxing work. I love product development and research issues. I hate personnel problems and legal issues. So if I'm going to spend the afternoon in a room full of lawyers, you can bet your ass I'm going to spend the morning in a machine shop or working on a new product.

8) Maintain perspective: "There's always an Arquillian Battle Cruiser, or a Corillian Death Ray, or an intergalactic plague that is about to wipe out all life on this miserable little planet". And strangely enough, your office manager will try to convince you that you completing that TPS report before the COB today will save you all.

9) Keep in the back of your mind that many companies artificially create a crisis like (8) simply because it pumps you full of adrenaline and keeps you working harder -- but it also pumps you full of cortisol which makes you softer and more tired.

10) I've never found a cortisol-reducing supplement that actually worked for me. But that sure doesn't mean they don't exist.

I'm sure I left a few out. That was just stream of consciousness.
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What if you have to travel for business?

How much caffine are we talking how many MG per day?
 
superqt4u2nv said:
What if you have to travel for business?

How much caffine are we talking how many MG per day?
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Traveling across many time zones is a killer. You are eating when your body is a sleep zone and you are sleeping when your metabolism is in the burn calorie zone.

You really have to increase the cardio to get that straight.
 
miplank said:
Bill, wtf is Civilization. I always see that in the app store on my Mac. Or was it my iPad?
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On the Mac - it is great. You start out as cavemen and try to build a civilization. You win buy either destroying all the other countries or by landing a space ship on Alpha centauri.

Lot of battles and nuclear wars and shit in between. I spent a many of hours on that thing. Find it got worse as it got more animated but may go back to playing it again.
 
superqt4u2nv said:
What if you have to travel for business?

How much caffine are we talking how many MG per day?
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Travel blows it completely up.

But that's the trick to having a routine. If you have a ritual where you drink your half-caf coffee while reading the WSJ on your iPad, you can tie into that ritual even if you are 2,000 miles away from home.

I used to spend two out of every six weeks is Europe for about 18 months. My secret there was to have a routine in every city. Maybe it's just particular to me, but little tidbits of familiarity seems to keep me energized and on track.
 
youpissmeoff said:
Traveling across many time zones is a killer. You are eating when your body is a sleep zone and you are sleeping when your metabolism is in the burn calorie zone.

You really have to increase the cardio to get that straight.
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Yeah west coast travel is brutal especially when you are only gone for 2-3 days its like your body never really adjust either way your just fucked up for a few days. LOL
 
youpissmeoff said:
On the Mac - it is great. You start out as cavemen and try to build a civilization. You win buy either destroying all the other countries or by landing a space ship on Alpha centauri.

Lot of battles and nuclear wars and shit in between. I spent a many of hours on that thing. Find it got worse as it got more animated but may go back to playing it again.
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That's what I used to do years ago with StarCraft. It was a great relaxer when I had 20-40 minutes on the road.
 
mrplunkey said:
Here's how I manage it (with mixed success... sometimes it works great and sometimes it all goes to hell).

1) Get on a super-regular schedule. Sleep at the same time and wake up at the same time.

2) Routines are your friend. Make them rituals. Work at the office may be unpredictable, but your morning routine and drive into work shouldn't be. Just don't integrate anything unhealthy into that ritual (i.e. buying a big milkshake on the way into work).

3) Go easy on the stimulants. I do a fairly large (but far from monster) cup of 50% decaffeinated coffee. Then I avoid caffeine for the rest of the day. Lots of coffee in the morning can give you the late afternoon munchies that go along with a crash.

4) Embed little healthy rituals into your day (i.e. not food rituals, like a candy bar run). For me, I like to use the last 10 minutes of lunch to work a Sudoku puzzle. Sure it sounds nerdy, but it puts some ritual into each day.

5) Schedule everything you can. And don't run one of those big-shot blow-hard calendars where you tell your "girl" to give them some ridiculous date six months from now. But do organize each day at least 1-2 days in advance when possible. For some reason, a little advance notice gives our brains a chance to adjust for what's coming.

6) Small lunch... always

7) Learn to intermingle stressful and relaxing work. I love product development and research issues. I hate personnel problems and legal issues. So if I'm going to spend the afternoon in a room full of lawyers, you can bet your ass I'm going to spend the morning in a machine shop or working on a new product.

8) Maintain perspective: "There's always an Arquillian Battle Cruiser, or a Corillian Death Ray, or an intergalactic plague that is about to wipe out all life on this miserable little planet". And strangely enough, your office manager will try to convince you that you completing that TPS report before the COB today will save you all.

9) Keep in the back of your mind that many companies artificially create a crisis like (8) simply because it pumps you full of adrenaline and keeps you working harder -- but it also pumps you full of cortisol which makes you softer and more tired.

10) I've never found a cortisol-reducing supplement that actually worked for me. But that sure doesn't mean they don't exist.

I'm sure I left a few out. That was just stream of consciousness.
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all good advice...some of it is tough for sales though as you well know

don't laugh but I found a supp that actually reduced my insanely high cortisol levels..
its called "Adrene Vive" by ortho molecular products
it was recommended by an anti aging dr...so idk
it seems like the main active ingredient in it that actually has studies behind it is phosphatidylserine

the stuff chills me right out...a nice calm zen feeling..and at night I just knock off when I take it (without feeling drugged)
I noticed a difference in about a week
 
shirlene29 said:
all good advice...some of it is tough for sales though as you well know

don't laugh but I found a supp that actually reduced my insanely high cortisol levels..
its called "Adrene Vive" by ortho molecular products
it was recommended by an anti aging dr...so idk
it seems like the main active ingredient in it that actually has studies behind it is phosphatidylserine

the stuff chills me right out...a nice calm zen feeling..and at night I just knock off when I take it (without feeling drugged)
I noticed a difference in about a week
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I may try it. I'm always looking for a stress-relieving angle.
 
yeah...it seemed to do the trick...my cortisol levels were a hot mess before taking it...after three months they calmed right down

interestingly enough I was going to bikram 6 days a week before the blood work so I was surprised they were so high
I actually cut the bikram down to 3 days a week...lifting three days a week...reduced caffeine and cut out refined carbs totally...so who knows what really did it?
but I noticed a HUGE difference in sleep quality with it
 
shirlene29 said:
all good advice...some of it is tough for sales though as you well know

don't laugh but I found a supp that actually reduced my insanely high cortisol levels..
its called "Adrene Vive" by ortho molecular products
it was recommended by an anti aging dr...so idk
it seems like the main active ingredient in it that actually has studies behind it is phosphatidylserine

the stuff chills me right out...a nice calm zen feeling..and at night I just knock off when I take it (without feeling drugged)
I noticed a difference in about a week
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Damm I want some
 
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mrplunkey said:
For me, I like to use the last 10 minutes of lunch to work a Sudoku puzzle.
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:rainbow: :rainbow: :rainbow:

mrplunkey said:
where you tell your "girl"
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wut if you are teh girl :confused:

mrplunkey said:
Learn to intermingle stressful and relaxing work.
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I'll request my boss to adjust his schedule accordingly

mrplunkey said:
Maintain perspective: "There's always an Arquillian Battle Cruiser, or a Corillian Death Ray, or an intergalactic plague that is about to wipe out all life on this miserable little planet".
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or a little teh herpe flare up :worried:

mrplunkey said:
I'm sure I left a few out.
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I'm sure
 
shirlene29 said:
yeah...it seemed to do the trick...my cortisol levels were a hot mess before taking it...after three months they calmed right down

interestingly enough I was going to bikram 6 days a week before the blood work so I was surprised they were so high
I actually cut the bikram down to 3 days a week...lifting three days a week...reduced caffeine and cut out refined carbs totally...so who knows what really did it?
but I noticed a HUGE difference in sleep quality with it
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How many do you have to take a day it ain't cheap $50 for 60 tabs
 
I started with just one in the morning and one at night but that was my particular profile...then moved to one in the afternoon and two at night...then settled in at two at night...and by night I mean like 7 pm for a planned sleep at 10-11

Id say this particular "sup" is worth it for the money...you can find it cheapest on amazon
 
^^what he said...ceo and I recently had a similar conversation....we were discussing straight PS tho...not the stuff Im taking (Im a fan of ashwaganda tho)

so thats an alternate route for someone that thinks the adrene vive is too pricey
 
I don't think its placebo rotar.....my lab work was shitty before the crap...way better after

I did make other changes as noted ..but my cortisol levels were fricken bad...like incredibly bordering on cushings bad..and now theyre not with out adding cortisone to my current drug cocktail
 
so your betting the farm on an N of 1?

Im not saying it won't work.

I'm just sayin.

And I don't find anything wrong with placebo effects either. QOL improvement > labs as long as it won't hurt you.
 
indeed...or someone would've figured out the right fuckin dose for my thyroid meds like....6 years ago
 
mrplunkey said:
For me, I like to use the last 10 minutes of lunch to work a Sudoku puzzle.
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i find fucking around with Fubini's theorem to compute double integrals a formidable activity to periodically distract myself from the rigors of the daily rat race

it's roughly analogous to Summer's Eve in providing my brain with that freshening mid-afternoon pick me up





just sayin'
 
PICK3 said:
i find fucking around with Fubini's theorem to compute double integrals a formidable activity to periodically distract myself from the rigors of the daily rat race

it's roughly analogous to Summer's Eve in providing my brain with that freshening mid-afternoon pick me up





just sayin'
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whats sad is I'm proud of myself for only having had to read that twice to understand it
 
PICK3 said:
i find fucking around with Fubini's theorem to compute double integrals a formidable activity to periodically distract myself from the rigors of the daily rat race

it's roughly analogous to Summer's Eve in providing my brain with that freshening mid-afternoon pick me up





just sayin'
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I guess that's ok if you're such a mathematical lightweight that you only deal with measurable functions.

:sigh:
 
Plunkey the morning ritual/routine is it the same things or like the same timing? I was thinking about it and I do have a morning routine wakeup cup of cofee in me ASAP. I sip that and screw around the internet for the 15-20 minutes it takes to get it in me. Then I hit the gym for cardio come home shower make breakfast eat and get ready for work. The timing on eating breakfast and getting ready for work is almost never exactly the same.

Also the drive into work is always diffrent cause of traffic the route rarely changes unless its a big mess.
 
superqt4u2nv said:
Plunkey the morning ritual/routine is it the same things or like the same timing? I was thinking about it and I do have a morning routine wakeup cup of cofee in me ASAP. I sip that and screw around the internet for the 15-20 minutes it takes to get it in me. Then I hit the gym for cardio come home shower make breakfast eat and get ready for work. The timing on eating breakfast and getting ready for work is almost never exactly the same.

Also the drive into work is always diffrent cause of traffic the route rarely changes unless its a big mess.
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I have a similar routine!

Depending on when I wake up, the morning routine can vary by 20 mins or so. But the ritual doesn't.
 
jnevin said:
Dammit. This started out about me being fat. Now I'm fat and stupid.
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Please, you're not even fat.

I'm sure you'll be back in the shape you want to be in in no time once you're back in a regular gym routine and start eating maybe only half the tub of butter for dinner. :)
 
mrplunkey said:
I have a similar routine!

Depending on when I wake up, the morning routine can vary by 20 mins or so. But the ritual doesn't.
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Ok cool yeah I also screw around on the internet well eating breakfast. I can normally slam down a meal quick except for breakfast I do that and I puke.

Thank god you didn't say it needed to be timed my OCD ass would start setting a timer. I got more issues than cosmo. I try to reduce my coffee intake but I love it so much. I have cup before cardio and a cup with breakfast then most days I have another after lunch. I keep trying to cut the after lunch one but it's a nice walk too especially when the weather is nice maybe I will try to switch it to decafe :worried:
 
Work stress and weight gain thread?

I recently went on my first vacation of my professional career and came back with a whole new perspective. I am so much more relaxed, secure, and confident.

But I'm gaining weight. I'm also more relaxed about my fitness routine and have slacked on my diet.

Add to that that I got sick while I was on vacation and am still recovering, and I'm just like totally turning into a blob.

I really need to work back on my discipline when it comes to my diet.
 
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