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TestApe70 said:
Anyone ever try them......My guy has there line.......
I have the same gay.the wotan labs is allright stuff.cheap as hell to.there testopin is realy realy good stuff one of the only testopins out there that dont hert,and it works grate.
 
needtogetas said:
wow youre cool,ever bin blacked out.by the end of the day you will.
You said it bro, not me. Learn to type before you fly off the handle and start a stupid internet argument.
Bomb me all you want, as if i care about karma.
Bionic

PS-Considering you signed up April of this year, and you have like 150,000 karma points, you obviously bought all of that, not earned it by giving useful, informative advice pertaining to proper usage of AAS and other supplements. So before you go getting all mad over YOU typing wrong, and spelling like 10 words incorrectly in 2 sentences, get a dictionary, take English 101, something, and help an old lady cross the street, or something helpful instead of saying youre gonna "bomb" me.
Bionic
 
needtogetas said:
I have the same gay.the wotan labs is allright stuff.cheap as hell to.there testopin is realy realy good stuff one of the only testopins out there that dont hert,and it works grate.
1. gay=Supposed to be "guy"
2. wotan=Supposed to be Wonton
3. allright=Supposed to be "alright"
4. to=Supposed to be "too"
5. realy=Supposed to be "really"
6. realy=Supposed to be "really" (yes, you did it twice)
7. hert=Supposed to be "hurt"
8. grate=Supposed to be "great"

And you're mad at me WHY?
Bionic
 
LEAVE HIM ALONE!!!!!!!!!!!! That shit ain't funny bro's!!!
:Chef: :tuc:
 
chefbone said:
LEAVE HIM ALONE!!!!!!!!!!!! That shit ain't funny bro's!!!
:Chef: :tuc:

I wasnt making fun of anyone.

I just thought the initial reply was a very lighthearted jab. I think his threat of bombing a guy just for a little ribbing about mixing "gay" up with "guy" was the greater of the evils in this thread.

Everyone just chill out! Go throw some iron around or something..
 
bunkka said:
I wasnt making fun of anyone.

I just thought the initial reply was a very lighthearted jab. I think his threat of bombing a guy just for a little ribbing about mixing "gay" up with "guy" was the greater of the evils in this thread.

Everyone just chill out! Go throw some iron around or something..
I just got back from the gym.had a great work out.I love my shoulders there so huge.
and btw theres a reason I cant spell.all I ask is that you leave it alone I am sorry for getting so mad but I cant help it.plaese just stop it. ;)
 
Aside from all this little girl bullshit about bombing and spelling, I can tell you that Wotan Pharm has a good rep for being effective - but it is hyper-dosed - the test E is 600mg/ml. And even the source that moves it says that it hurts like a motherfucker.

I was considering going with the Wotan EQ at 300mg/ml, and cut it with test.

Good luck and let us know your experience first hand if you use it.


Bluesman
 
BionicBC said:
1. gay=Supposed to be "guy"
2. wotan=Supposed to be Wonton
3. allright=Supposed to be "alright"
4. to=Supposed to be "too"
5. realy=Supposed to be "really"
6. realy=Supposed to be "really" (yes, you did it twice)
7. hert=Supposed to be "hurt"
8. grate=Supposed to be "great"

And you're mad at me WHY?
Bionic

i'll have to get needto's back here, he's been very helpful and given me great advise on several occasions.
he's a good bro-leave him alone,
BTW-needto, a quick run down of your shoulder workout-don't mean to hijack
 
jc1908 said:
i'll have to get needto's back here, he's been very helpful and given me great advise on several occasions.
he's a good bro-leave him alone,
BTW-needto, a quick run down of your shoulder workout-don't mean to hijack
standing barbell milatary press 1x12x85
1x10x100
1x8x110
1x6x120
1x4x150
setted dumbel millatary press 5x560lb dumbels
side laterals 5x40 with 25lb dumbels I love the burn I get from it
upright rows 5x5 180lb.
shrugs 5x5 300lb
and thats it.Iam thinking of adding more.
 
needtogetas said:
standing barbell milatary press 1x12x85
1x10x100
1x8x110
1x6x120
1x4x150
setted dumbel millatary press 5x560lb dumbels
side laterals 5x40 with 25lb dumbels I love the burn I get from it
upright rows 5x5 180lb.
shrugs 5x5 300lb
and thats it.Iam thinking of adding more.


i run a similiar delt workout.. but no shrugs!
i do shrugs on back day.

deltoid workout:

seated dumbell presses 4 sets
side laterals 4 sets
wide grip upright rows 4 sets
reverse fly machine 4 sets
 
satchboogie said:
i run a similiar delt workout.. but no shrugs!
i do shrugs on back day.

deltoid workout:

seated dumbell presses 4 sets
side laterals 4 sets
wide grip upright rows 4 sets
reverse fly machine 4 sets
I see people doing the reverse flys all the time,it just looks silly.in youre oppinoun was that exrsice werth doing for shoulder devalopment.
 
needtogetas said:
I see people doing the reverse flys all the time,it just looks silly.in youre oppinoun was that exrsice werth doing for shoulder devalopment.

absolutey worth doing bro!

the rear delts are worked anytime you do pulling movements (back work).
but for very well rounded rear delts you MUST do some isolated rear delt exercises. you must!!!!!!!!!!!!!

actually best done on back day...
but i sometime do em on delt day.. all depends on my training rotation that week.

the machine reverse fly's are my favorite, although many the same movement via free weights... i prefer the machine!!
 
satchboogie said:
absolutey worth doing bro!

the rear delts are worked anytime you do pulling movements (back work).
but for very well rounded rear delts you MUST do some isolated rear delt exercises. you must!!!!!!!!!!!!!

actually best done on back day...
but i sometime do em on delt day.. all depends on my training rotation that week.

the machine reverse fly's are my favorite, although many the same movement via free weights... i prefer the machine!!
that works out perfict for me cuz I have bin looking for something to add to my back,biecep days.I always leave the gym on thous days fealing like I need to be doing more.
 
needtogetas said:
that works out perfict for me cuz I have bin looking for something to add to my back,biecep days.I always leave the gym on thous days fealing like I need to be doing more.
Shit bro, after I leave the gym on Bi and Back day I can't lift my arms above my head. I crush that shit. Chest day is the day where I think I could have done more!! :Chef: :tuc:
 
chefbone said:
Shit bro, after I leave the gym on Bi and Back day I can't lift my arms above my head. I crush that shit. Chest day is the day where I think I could have done more!! :Chef: :tuc:
I do the same with my bis but I would like to feel like my back is going to explode to
I kill my chest and trise,I litterly cant move after that work out.same with shoulders.
btw I have bin making grate ganes in my back but it just feels like I could be doing more.
 
needtogetas said:
I do the same with my bis but I would like to feel like my back is going to explode to
I kill my chest and trise,I litterly cant move after that work out.same with shoulders.
btw I have bin making grate ganes in my back but it just feels like I could be doing more.
ROWS ROWS ROWS!!!!! :Chef: :tuc:
 
most painful workout for me is BY FAR deltoids!!
they hurt so bad that i have cant drop my arms to the side...
the weight of the arms makes my delts HURT! so i have to cross my arms for 15-20 minutes post workout...

2nd most painful is legs,.. ouch!

3rd is triceps. . i like to torture those puppies!!
 
satchboogie said:
most painful workout for me is BY FAR deltoids!!
they hurt so bad that i have cant drop my arms to the side...
the weight of the arms makes my delts HURT! so i have to cross my arms for 15-20 minutes post workout...

2nd most painful is legs,.. ouch!

3rd is triceps. . i like to torture those puppies!!
its funny I fucking hate my leg work out.so much that some times I skip it,but my legs grow better then anny other muscle groop.my legs do hert like hell after though.spashaly my calfs.I laugh at myself as I limp out the gym.
 
instant.muscle said:
how is wotan's deca? i heard their EQ is good bout im bout 2 get their deca, lets say it compares to QV? not as good? better? thanx
just did a cycle of there deca.450mg a week.I wasent imprased.I gained 10lbs of a 12 week cycle.but like I siad there testopin is the funken balles.
 
my gym does'nt have a reverse fly machine, but i have used one other places and loved how it targeted, have to do bent over db's. guess i started the highjack,sorry,but bionic or whoever started bangin on a bro. thanks for the info, trying to tweek my program. i'll ask for more info but in the correct forum next time, jc
 
satchboogie said:
the rear delts are worked anytime you do pulling movements (back work).
but for very well rounded rear delts you MUST do some isolated rear delt exercises. you must!!!!!!!!!!!!!
EXACTLY.... Great advice Satch, too many people neglect their rear delts, and this is IMO one of the main reasons so many people get shoulder injuries-due to the muscle imbalance. Remember, front delts are not only worked on shoulder day, but on chest/tri days as well. Any type of bench press movement, especially flat and even moreso on inclines, hits those front delts HARD. Make up for these imbalances by incorporating rear delt movements, such as reverse flyes on a machine, or with dumbells, in your shoulder day. I suggest doing them FIRST every other week or so... Your sholders development will improve greatly, as well as the amt. of weight you can handle in compound movements such as the bench press.
Bionic
 
well im going for strictly size and strength, should i go with wotan deca 600mg 10 weeks with dbol or wotan EQ 600mg 10 weeks with dbol? deca is better for size but if ur saying the deca wasnt that great i'd rather use the EQ... what is testopin?
 
instant.muscle said:
well im going for strictly size and strength, should i go with wotan deca 600mg 10 weeks with dbol or wotan EQ 600mg 10 weeks with dbol? deca is better for size but if ur saying the deca wasnt that great i'd rather use the EQ... what is testopin?
I dont understand this... Deca is deca is deca, just as EQ is EQ is EQ. Unless Wotan or whatever is creating diluted, underdosed, or mislabeled products, then 600mg deca is 600mg deca, all day, every day. Same for EQ. Use what better suits your purpose.
PS-If you have any reason to doubt a "band" or "supplier" go with something else, something tried and true. Its your body, after all.
Bionic
 
What happened to My ?? how is there gear.....To many USELESS posts...have a little respect,Not being nasty but a little respect here..
 
TestApe70 said:
What happened to My ?? how is there gear.....To many USELESS posts...have a little respect,Not being nasty but a little respect here..

with all do respect test: your post got fucked when needtogas was disrespected after giving your post a first hand reponse,not by you, but some other dude.
i've read the post and even though there was some highjacking, i believe you recieved some good reedback on your question..
BTW BRO..read the sticky's...email a mod with any source questions
late...jc
 
BionicBC said:
1. gay=Supposed to be "guy"
2. wotan=Supposed to be Wonton
3. allright=Supposed to be "alright"
4. to=Supposed to be "too"
5. realy=Supposed to be "really"
6. realy=Supposed to be "really" (yes, you did it twice)
7. hert=Supposed to be "hurt"
8. grate=Supposed to be "great"

And you're mad at me WHY?
Bionic

You crack me up brotha... ;)
 
jc1908 said:
with all do respect test: your post got fucked when needtogas was disrespected after giving your post a first hand reponse,not by you, but some other dude.
i've read the post and even though there was some highjacking, i believe you recieved some good reedback on your question..
BTW BRO..read the sticky's...email a mod with any source questions
late...jc
Thankx JC not really a source ?? but more on how is a brand gear..
 
first off shut the fuck up about homey's spelling or you will be blacked out. needtoget is my dawg. wotan is bomb gear for the price and if you want eq or deca in a 300/ml concentration. 410 approved.
 
instant.muscle said:
lol the deca tested at 410 mg? bruce i remember u doin a 600mg deca cycle for 12 weeks didnt u love it?
yeah i did it with some sydgroup winny and gained 22lbs kept it all. that is good gear
 
bruce410 said:
first off shut the fuck up about homey's spelling or you will be blacked out..
nah, im cool. I dont really care about karma so go ahead. Sorry if I offended you, but it really had nothing to do with you... Anyways
Bionic
 
bruce410 said:
yeah i did it with some sydgroup winny and gained 22lbs kept it all. that is good gear

awesome im doin 600mg also with dbol instead of winny, shooting for 25 pounds, think its possible? how much protein did u take in a day? u workout every muscle once or twice a week also?
 
instant.muscle said:
awesome im doin 600mg also with dbol instead of winny, shooting for 25 pounds, think its possible? how much protein did u take in a day? u workout every muscle once or twice a week also?
how many cycles have you done and how long you been working out. yea its definitely possible, more so if its one of your first cycles. i ate 1.5 grams of protein per pound i weigh, thats an average cause some days i did 2 grams per, others less. i ate 4000 cals at the begining and then my gains were getting crazy and i boosted the cals to 5000 when i could, its not easy to eat that much man.
 
BionicBC said:
nah, im cool. I dont really care about karma so go ahead. Sorry if I offended you, but it really had nothing to do with you... Anyways
Bionic
its cool but yes it offends me when people make fun of things like that and he is a solid bro. take care
 
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