Women and higher testosterone levels??

[*MissFit*]

ty.. this is more of what i was looking for

I can't be a chronic condition such as in PolyCystic Ovary Syndrome (PCOS) or can be an acute problem brought on by things such as puberty, high insulin/high carb diets, low estrogen levels etc...as important as total testosterone is free testosterone as well as the ratio of estrogen to testosterne. Thus many postmenopausal women have symptoms of excess T, but that's only becuase their estrogen is low and not always due to elevated T.

 

[Sassy69]

So really when you see a particularly androgenic feature that is opposite of the sex the person is, it isn't that its too much of the opposite hormone, but not enough of the same hormone - i.e. if you are female but have a mustache, you are low on estrogen, not high on testosterone?

 

[Ulter]

So really when you see a particularly androgenic feature that is opposite of the sex the person is, it isn't that its too much of the opposite hormone, but not enough of the same hormone - i.e. if you are female but have a mustache, you are low on estrogen, not high on testosterone?

Well maybe, not necessarily though. Genetics play a large part as well. But there are certainly some women who naturally produce more test than the average woman. And in women it doesn't take much to have a profound impact on everything from facial hair to sex drive. It's no different in men. Some have levels of 300 and some have 1500 with a 300-1500 normal range. Which means the normal range is a pretty wide spread. But it's much easier to see in women even with no facial hair. Bunny for instance has high test levels.

 

[Sassy69]

Apparently I have high estrogen levels...


shit.

 

[Ulter]

What makes you say that?

 

[*MissFit*]

I am getting my levels tested.. i think mine might be a bit high as well - waiting on test results...

(No facial hair though.. )

Well maybe, not necessarily though. Genetics play a large part as well. But there are certainly some women who naturally produce more test than the average woman. And in women it doesn't take much to have a profound impact on everything from facial hair to sex drive. It's no different in men. Some have levels of 300 and some have 1500 with a 300-1500 normal range. Which means the normal range is a pretty wide spread. But it's much easier to see in women even with no facial hair. Bunny for instance has high test levels.

 

[nsashbl01]

My gf just had some labs drawn by her pc. Her Test was 27ng/dl (20-76) and DHEA was 163ng/dl (130-980). Both seemed low to me for an athete in her shape. All other values were in line, except low cholesterol, (130). I know low chol can lower test in men, but not sure in women. I'm bothered by these values and her doc is not. She wants to put some size on for Summer and is starting up with a trainer that has put many women on stage. Anyone know if she is working with a crutch? Ulter??

 

[The Shadow]

My gf just had some labs drawn by her pc. Her Test was 27ng/dl (20-76) and DHEA was 163ng/dl (130-980). Both seemed low to me for an athete in her shape. All other values were in line, except low cholesterol, (130). I know low chol can lower test in men, but not sure in women. I'm bothered by these values and her doc is not. She wants to put some size on for Summer and is starting up with a trainer that has put many women on stage. Anyone know if she is working with a crutch? Ulter??

What do you mean by crutch??


If she is competing in a non tested event...then opbviously, to have a shot, the playing field need to be level, genetics aside

 

[nsashbl01]

What do you mean by crutch??


If she is competing in a non tested event...then opbviously, to have a shot, the playing field need to be level, genetics aside

By crutch I mean a handicap. I for instance have very low test naturally, so I was always a slow gainer. She seemed to get to the point where she looks like she trains easily, but has been slow to grow since. She can get lean easily and is strong, but has not gotten stronger as I'd expect for her training regiem. Thats why she had bloodwork.