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Winstrol and DBol Tablets

DIVISION said:
Eh Nutty Nugga John....

Yes, right now I'm experimenting with it, taking 30MG in one dosage prior to workout. I'm wondering whether there's any difference in serum level concentrations either way?

Everyone is recommending splitting up the D-bol because of it's short half life, but like you, I'm curious.





DIV

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I'm certain all will go well for you. I split DBOL occasionally on off days to keep the levels consistant throughout. Never noticed any benfit from this practice. Let me know how everything turns out!

Enjoy!
 
wootoom said:
why would it matter taking two different orals? arent they the same 17 alkalyted together? if you took low doses of both why would it matter??

I agree on this.. taking 25mg of dbol and 25mg of winny.. to the liver.. should be the same as 50mg of either.. now to the rest of the body that's a big difference.. but in terms of the liver breaking it down.. the amount.. not the drug will determine the damage.. you could run two orals.. but not at high amounts.. but people are always told "never run two orals.. EVER".. without questioning why.. oh well..
 
brandonp005 said:
Thanks a lot man for the info.

Actually I have been thinking about taking winstrol by itself. what would be more effective, winstrol tablets or winstrol depot taken orally? I have heard a lot of people say they drink it.

No prob.. a winny only cycle is actually a REALLY good cycle.. in terms of strength.. and size.. it will put on consistent although not dramatic size that is easy to maintain.. quality strength increases.. and it dramatically increases red blood cell count.. which makes for almost painful pumps at times.. increased endurance and a whole host of other benefits not even related to bodybuilding.. BUT.. beware.. winny is known for causing severe joint pain.. i am using it right now and it can be pretty bad at times.. a good joint support product of some sort would be advisable.. as well as running milk thistle afterwards with your PCT.. and don't think you can run winny without pct.. cause it won't happen.. it's not a good idea.. anywho.. goodluck to ya man.. pm me or something if you got any more ?

Happy Turkey Day to whoever else is celebrating it.. the one day of the year when eating like a bodybuilder is considered normal.. lol.. for some of us.. it's just a normal day
 
I have ran anadrol with winstrol a couple of times with no problems. Just get some Tylers liver detox or Liv52 and youll be ok. If your a college athlete and you have drug test then stay away from things like deca or sust with long esters.
 
wootoom said:
why would it matter taking two different orals? arent they the same 17 alkalyted together? if you took low doses of both why would it matter??

If you take low doses of both it won't matter, it's when you take full daily doses of each that you're tempting fate like a muthafucka.

What I mean is: 50MG Winny + 30MG D-bol + 40MG Halotestin.

Those are three full daily doses of 17AA and too much for the liver to process....



DIV

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brandonp005 said:
I am thinking about taking wintrol and dbol tablets together. I am a college athlete. I want to gain some size, but also want to cut up a little. I hate needles so that is why I want to take tablets. I plan on taking milk thistle to help my liver. Would this stack be effective and approximately how much of each should I take and how often?


I have run these two together and felt they did not have a good synergy. Why I do not know, perhaps the drying out effect of winstrol negated the hydrating effect of the dbol. At any rate, this is one of those rare bad combos IMHO, and some other bros, too. So I think you would be better off running dbol first, winstrol second.
 
DIVISION said:
If you take low doses of both it won't matter, it's when you take full daily doses of each that you're tempting fate like a muthafucka.

What I mean is: 50MG Winny + 30MG D-bol + 40MG Halotestin.

Those are three full daily doses of 17AA and too much for the liver to process....



DIV

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i gotcha Division thanks for the info bro
 
help4john said:
DIV...ever take DBOL in a single dose 1 hour before workout? I know there are several schools of thought on this subject....but it seems to work best for me in a single dose. Plus it interfers less with my sleep patterns (which aren't the greatest either!).
i too dont split my dosages up during the course of the day, but i take half in the morning and the other half an hour or so before workout. if i take any in the evening it really fucks with my sleep, mostly because of the elevated blood pressure i think.
 
i can tell you right now.. everyone is gonna say "don't take two orals at the same time".. which is pretty much right.. then again it all depends on the person.. the dosages.. how good your liver is.. etc.. but overall.. it's not usually a wise idea.. it can cause some serious problems to your liver even if you are using milk thistle.. even though i would definatly use it.. or some Liv-52.. heard it's a little better.. anyway..

first and foremost.. i know you say you hate needles.. but trust me.. they are not NEARLY as bad as you think.. and it's more than worth it.. and cheaper.. so whenever you feel like taking a jump off the deep end.. you won't regret it.. anyway

if your looking to bulk up and cut.. you could really go with one or the other.. it depends more on diet and training than what substance your taking.. winny by itself.. run at around 50mg ed.. for 6 weeks or so.. with a good diet and training will put on a few SOLID pounds and give you some great strength.. whereas d-bol will put on some great strength and size.. but a lot of water weight... but still when the water weight is gone.. there will still be some good size and strength..

If you REALLY wanna run both.. i would do this.. run the d-bol for like 4 weeks or so.. eat good train heavy.. then bridge the d-bol with the winny.. run the bridge for around two weeks.. look up some info on the 10mg d-bol bridge.. good read.. take some liver supps during the bridge as well.. then do another 4 weeks with winny.. then do your PCT.. just as you would with anything else.. because d-bol and winny will no doubt shut you down.. use the liver supps again.. and wallah.. size.. strength.. and hopefully cut up a good bit.. hope that helps at all

This is the best advice i've read. i myself im starting my dbol winstrol cycle in a few week.. it looks like this
Week 1-4: 30 ED Dbol / 0.50mg AI EOD/ 10mg Nolva
Week 5-7: PCT 40 mg Nolva ED/ 50mg Clomid
Week 12-16: 50mg ED Winny/ 0.50mg AI EOD/ 10mg Nolva
Week 17-19: PCT 40 mg Nolva ED/ 50mg Clomid

this is a bloody 11 year old thread.. :/
 
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