I'm no Guru, but have you guys ever done 100mg of Winny ED? Personally I think that blows dbol out of the water. Powdered Winny makes it more affordable as well. With Winny the size stays, and at 100mg with some test and you'll get big, hard, vascular, and stronger than you thought possible provided you are eating, training, and sleeping well. I think dbol is great, but out of everything I've tried: test, winny, EQ, fina, dbol, and deca, winny is the winner hands down.