Also guys! I started another thread about liver protectors on orals. And was asking the proper way to do it. On cycle? Or after cycle? I've read mixed opinions of corse. What I read that sounds good is to take it four hours after every dose. Let me know what you guys think. I'm currently taking 75mg Ed and live 52 as a live protector. Weight 205-210,12-15% body fat, 5'9" training for 2 years solid and about 6 years off and on