Why Take Nolvadex?

[TheSystemHasFailed]

Ok, so as I asked previously, what should a PCT for test e for 10-12 weeks look like in your opinion? Just asking as I value your opinion...

 

[Nelson Montana]

Ok, so as I asked previously, what should a PCT for test e for 10-12 weeks look like in your opinion? Just asking as I value your opinion...

Once again I need to reiterate, PCT isn't just take this and that. It's what you do while on cycle as well. How you run it, how you follow up, etc.

I think this is worth another thread.

 

[TheSystemHasFailed]

Ok

 

[lartinos]

Nelson has helped bring about the opposition on this board to Clomid years back. He has done a service for doing so IMO, many fought with him over this. Overall I agree that Clomid is one of the most overrated drugs BBer's take. But.... I disagree about nolvadex. I like it

 

[Voijn]

Sorry for my bad english guys, damn crazy that i have so bad gramatik failures

 

[Zyglamail]

There are medical studies in peer reviewed medical journals available that illustrate that SERMs, specifically clomid, will raise endogenous testosterone in 100% of men while they are taking it provided they have functioning testicles.

Regardless of whether or not the HPTA suppression they are suffering is steroid induced or simply as part of a reduction in overall metabolism due to genetic aging, it raises T in ALL men.

Isnt that kind of a contradiction? "Provided they have functioning testicles" and "HPTA suppression". More specifically, if they are suppressed and not producing test, then by definition arent they in turn NOT functioning?

 

[party_booye]

In a way they do but you can;t make medical claims with any supplement. Instead, we need to rely on the bodybuilders knowledge and reasoning. POST CYCLE balances estro, regenerates liver cells and helps with erectile function -- all things that help in recovery. UNLEASHED increases FREE testosterone which helps maintain muscle, keep estro in check and allow the body to have adaquate T while it recovers. So it doesn't CURE anything (nothing does) but it assures you don;t lose your gains or feel a "dip" while you recover. And following with BRIDGE brings back the pump you get from steroids. It's a perfect combination.

REALITY CHECK: People want to think that as long as they take this drug or that drug everything will be fine. PCT is not that simple. Most guys wind up with depressed HPTA's for life because they thought all they needed was "tried and true " drugs. Don't be a fool. Do it right. Do it smart.

In a way they do, so in reality, they don't really... which to me seems to be implied with the wording of things in this thread, and that's my point.

Why use nolva, it doesn't help restore HPTA
ok, what do you suggest then?
postcycle & unleashed

to me that's how this thread seems to be, and many others like it.
With regards to unleashed - how does it compare to the likes of Trib? any tests or anything on either?

 

[Nelson Montana]

FOr more info, go here: http://www.elitefitness.com/forum/anabolic-steroids/recovery-steroid-cycle-isnt-just-pct-746147.html

 

[Sub-Zero]

unless you crash your estrogen purposefully with letro, aromisin, or adex as the test is clearing from your system (as some people do), your test will suddenly be much lower, and estrogen will be elevated when you come off.

the benefit of nolva is to guard your nipps from being affected by this increased estrogen/testosterone ratio, as your body normalizes. whether it actually causes production of testosterone i have no idea. and am too lazy to look. I figured thats what HCG during/after a cycle is for. I will keep using nolva, because im gyno prone and view this as a valuable protection as my HPTA recovers/normalizes

 

[ceo]

I agree with Sub about nolva and gyno. For the gyno prone, nolva is invaluable to have on hand.