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Why do bros still use Oral illegal AAS when there is legal ones that are stronger.
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2evil
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Re: Why do bros still use Oral illegal AAS when there is legal ones that are stronger
Honestly the only thing that's ridiculous in this thread to me is that you come in here and call bullshit on other good bros that have used the product and have nothing to gain by giving feedback. It's a throw back to what this board used to be like.
What's worse is that you haven't used a superdrol clone, so you don't really know. I like a good debate as much as anybody and mrplunkey put some good shit out there. Maybe terms like "lean dry muscle" are thrown around too casually - but that's not exclusive to this compound.
In any event, I suggest that you or any bro try it and run the proper support supps.
Peace.
Honestly the only thing that's ridiculous in this thread to me is that you come in here and call bullshit on other good bros that have used the product and have nothing to gain by giving feedback. It's a throw back to what this board used to be like.
What's worse is that you haven't used a superdrol clone, so you don't really know. I like a good debate as much as anybody and mrplunkey put some good shit out there. Maybe terms like "lean dry muscle" are thrown around too casually - but that's not exclusive to this compound.
In any event, I suggest that you or any bro try it and run the proper support supps.
Peace.
Re: Why do bros still use Oral illegal AAS when there is legal ones that are stronger
i think the issue here is that everyone is different--some bros can add tons of lean muscle w/o gear--some can barely add and keep gains on lots-o-gear.
there are so many variables that the one thing we know is there is no "one size fits all" for anyone---it remains trial and error for years until you are able to get all your ducks in a row.
most of all, new stuff comes out all the time--most crap, but some stuff just proves itself as a valuable addition in a short amount of time (e.g unleashed, sustain, amp02)
thus, to me, a site like this is just invaluable in being on the cutting edge (e.g. Nelson's thoughts on Nolva---of which I agree)
sorry, just needed to rant a bit
i think the issue here is that everyone is different--some bros can add tons of lean muscle w/o gear--some can barely add and keep gains on lots-o-gear.
there are so many variables that the one thing we know is there is no "one size fits all" for anyone---it remains trial and error for years until you are able to get all your ducks in a row.
most of all, new stuff comes out all the time--most crap, but some stuff just proves itself as a valuable addition in a short amount of time (e.g unleashed, sustain, amp02)
thus, to me, a site like this is just invaluable in being on the cutting edge (e.g. Nelson's thoughts on Nolva---of which I agree)
sorry, just needed to rant a bit
Re: Why do bros still use Oral illegal AAS when there is legal ones that are stronger
i suggest you reread all of my posts. i clearly state these products will work. lets just keep the gimmicky, exaggerated numbers out of it. can someone put on 15 pounds in a month. hell yea. break that down into muscle, water, and fat. NO WAY ITS ALL MUSCLE. not even close to all muscle. id believe maybe 4 of it COULD be muscle - and that is a TON of muscle in one month. thats my point. 7 pounds of dry, lean muscle in 10 days is just too ridiculous to even begin to discuss. if a salesman stood in front of me and made that claim, i would turn around and walk away immediately. ive been training for a very long time and enjoy hearing about all the great new products but its claims like these that make me cringe.
i suggest you reread all of my posts. i clearly state these products will work. lets just keep the gimmicky, exaggerated numbers out of it. can someone put on 15 pounds in a month. hell yea. break that down into muscle, water, and fat. NO WAY ITS ALL MUSCLE. not even close to all muscle. id believe maybe 4 of it COULD be muscle - and that is a TON of muscle in one month. thats my point. 7 pounds of dry, lean muscle in 10 days is just too ridiculous to even begin to discuss. if a salesman stood in front of me and made that claim, i would turn around and walk away immediately. ive been training for a very long time and enjoy hearing about all the great new products but its claims like these that make me cringe.
2evil
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Re: Why do bros still use Oral illegal AAS when there is legal ones that are stronger
Bro,
It would be nice if you would back up your opinions with some fact or at least first hand experience instead of coming on here and just saying "bullshit."
I tried to explain that there is no such thing as lean dry muscle (even though I described it that way) but that I'm up 7 lbs (9 lbs now) and getting stronger day by day and it doesn't seem to be bloating. In fact, I feel very dehydrated and from what I've seen in the logs this is also pretty common.
Again, I'm simply reporting on a product I paid full price for and am liking so far. I having nothing to do with the supplement industry and I'm not trying to sell you anything.
Bro,
It would be nice if you would back up your opinions with some fact or at least first hand experience instead of coming on here and just saying "bullshit."
I tried to explain that there is no such thing as lean dry muscle (even though I described it that way) but that I'm up 7 lbs (9 lbs now) and getting stronger day by day and it doesn't seem to be bloating. In fact, I feel very dehydrated and from what I've seen in the logs this is also pretty common.
Again, I'm simply reporting on a product I paid full price for and am liking so far. I having nothing to do with the supplement industry and I'm not trying to sell you anything.
mrplunkey
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Re: Why do bros still use Oral illegal AAS when there is legal ones that are stronger
What's wrong with questioning a claim though? To me it seems like healthy skepticism is an absolute necessity to keep the entire suppliment industry in check.
If I posted that I'm two weeks into a new GNC supplement and my bench jumped from 375 to 595, is no one here supposed to question it?
What's wrong with questioning a claim though? To me it seems like healthy skepticism is an absolute necessity to keep the entire suppliment industry in check.
If I posted that I'm two weeks into a new GNC supplement and my bench jumped from 375 to 595, is no one here supposed to question it?
2evil
Well-known member
Re: Why do bros still use Oral illegal AAS when there is legal ones that are stronger
I agree. But I don't think it's cool to just come on here and say "bullshit." I mean we can debate what's actually being gained - tissue, water, fat, whatever.
Quite honestly look around this site and other boards and you'll see very similar results from people running SD. i don't think that everyone is lying...
I wasn't directing this at you BTW. Your breakdown is interesting and valid to point out. Got me thinking in the direction of what really is "lean muscle."
I agree. But I don't think it's cool to just come on here and say "bullshit." I mean we can debate what's actually being gained - tissue, water, fat, whatever.
Quite honestly look around this site and other boards and you'll see very similar results from people running SD. i don't think that everyone is lying...
I wasn't directing this at you BTW. Your breakdown is interesting and valid to point out. Got me thinking in the direction of what really is "lean muscle."
Re: Why do bros still use Oral illegal AAS when there is legal ones that are stronger
i did come in with some facts here: muscle tissue, especially 1 whole pound, cannot be grown in 1 day. i dont feel i need to go through the steps of muscle growth as you seem to know it but it can be assured that there is no way 1 pound is being made in a 24hour period. i personally dont like prohormones but wont bash them. they do work, im just not a fan of orals in general. im not calling the products bunk, its the claims of growth above aas and gh that are bs. we can agree to disagree i hope.
i did come in with some facts here: muscle tissue, especially 1 whole pound, cannot be grown in 1 day. i dont feel i need to go through the steps of muscle growth as you seem to know it but it can be assured that there is no way 1 pound is being made in a 24hour period. i personally dont like prohormones but wont bash them. they do work, im just not a fan of orals in general. im not calling the products bunk, its the claims of growth above aas and gh that are bs. we can agree to disagree i hope.
2evil
Well-known member
Re: Why do bros still use Oral illegal AAS when there is legal ones that are stronger
Fair enough. I don't like pro-hormones either...
Fair enough. I don't like pro-hormones either...
OneBreath
Elite Mentor
Re: Why do bros still use Oral illegal AAS when there is legal ones that are stronger
I think 2evil just didn't like the word "bullshit". Its like a blanket statement saying everything is completely false. He's having good results (like most SD users) and is defending his experience.
You seem to be looking at this purely objectively. From this view if the hype provided in this thread is true we would all be on the Mr O stage next year after adding 75lbs of "lean dry mass". That's starting today with 4 weeks on, 4 weeks off, until the end of next Sep gaining the 15 lbs each blast as claimed being easy.
Both of you guys are right in a sense so please lets not get too heated here. I think this is a great discussion comparing the current legal designer steroids to the long standing illegal ones. We should keep this going.
I think 2evil just didn't like the word "bullshit". Its like a blanket statement saying everything is completely false. He's having good results (like most SD users) and is defending his experience.
You seem to be looking at this purely objectively. From this view if the hype provided in this thread is true we would all be on the Mr O stage next year after adding 75lbs of "lean dry mass". That's starting today with 4 weeks on, 4 weeks off, until the end of next Sep gaining the 15 lbs each blast as claimed being easy.
Both of you guys are right in a sense so please lets not get too heated here. I think this is a great discussion comparing the current legal designer steroids to the long standing illegal ones. We should keep this going.
