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Why Bromocriptine can lower testosterone levels and should not always be used during cycle to surpess prolactin .

- Ross - said:
The SCIENCE supports my EXPERIENCE.

I DO KNOW that it desensitizes the HPTA, which enables me to stay on for longer periods of time as well. Many of my friends and colleagues have confirmed this with their experiences also.

In 10 years, everyone will THANK ROSS for discovering HOW TO MINIMIZE HPTA SUPPRESSION.:)
The science in human studies shows just the opposite of that ross that subnormal prolactin levels surpresses the HPTA cuasing a drop in testsoterone,Lh and hgh.

many people have tried running dostenex during cycle and have loss of libido ,sex drive,hairloss and end up feeling worse then before they used it.

You are stating what works for you will work for everyone else.chaces are ross in 10 years new drugs will come out that far surpass anything we have today dostenex and prolactin surpression during cycle will be a thing long in the past that no one even does anymore.Due to the fact that in 10 years scientist under stand the endocrine system even better then today and have created far better drugs and studies to back them .
 
chazk said:
The science in human studies shows just the opposite of that ross that subnormal prolactin levels surpresses the HPTA cuasing a drop in testsoterone,Lh and hgh.

many people have tried running dostenex during cycle and have loss of libido ,sex drive,hairloss and end up feeling worse then before they used it.

You are stating what works for you will work for everyone else.chaces are ross in 10 years new drugs will come out that far surpass anything we have today dostenex and prolactin surpression during cycle will be a thing long in the past that no one even does anymore.Due to the fact that in 10 years scientist under stand the endocrine system even better then today and have created far better drugs and studies to back them .

Show me ONE HUMAN STUDY that shows having SUBNORMAL levels of prolactin will NOT DESENSITIZE THE HPTA.

It will.

Try taking a cycle of TRENBOLONE and you will see HOW PROLACTIN SENSITIZES THE HPTA.

PROLACIN SENSITIZES THE HPTA. This is why TREN and DECA cause HPTA SHUTDOWN faster than ANY OTHER COMPOUND! PROLACTIN!

REMOVE PROACTIN, and even on a DECA or a TREN CYCLE, you will have a libido.
 
- Ross - said:
Show me ONE HUMAN STUDY that shows having SUBNORMAL levels of prolactin will NOT DESENSITIZE THE HPTA.

It will.

Try taking a cycle of TRENBOLONE and you will see HOW PROLACTIN SENSITIZES THE HPTA.

PROLACIN SENSITIZES THE HPTA. This is why TREN and DECA cause HPTA SHUTDOWN faster than ANY OTHER COMPOUND! PROLACTIN!

REMOVE PROACTIN, and even on a DECA or a TREN CYCLE, you will have a libido.
this is not about just tren or deca, your suggesting prolactin to be surpressed with primo,mesteron,anavar,winne ,equipose and all steroids.

on a deca or tren cycle. you remove SOME PROLACTIN to return to normal levels you have sex drive recovery you REMOVE ALL PROLACTIN you have sexual dysfucntion again.....

your theory of removing prolactin does not desesitize the HPTA via the pituitary gland.It actually shuts down the pituitarys glands out put of LH,HGH and testosterone and your just horney becuase of the injected steroids floating a round in your system...
running any most any steroid will shut you down after a few weeks reguarless becuase of the body negative feed back loop.You cant fight it ross you can use HCG during cycle to help slow it down or antiestrogens and prolactin inhibators to try and stop the shut down but nothing will stop the hpta from being shut down nothing to this date .in the future maybe a new drug will come along but as of right now nothing exist to desinsitize the HPTA during a steroid cycle its just guesses
 
chazk said:
this is not about just tren or deca, your suggesting prolactin to be surpressed with primo,mesteron,anavar,winne ,equipose and all steroids.

on a deca or tren cycle. you remove SOME PROLACTIN to return to normal levels you have sex drive recovery you REMOVE ALL PROLACTIN you have sexual dysfucntion again.....

your theory of removing prolactin does not desesitize the HPTA via the pituitary gland.It actually shuts down the pituitarys glands out put of LH,HGH and testosterone and your just horney becuase of the injected steroids floating a round in your system...
running any most any steroid will shut you down after a few weeks reguarless becuase of the body negative feed back loop.You cant fight it ross you can use HCG during cycle to help slow it down or antiestrogens and prolactin inhibators to try and stop the shut down but nothing will stop the hpta from being shut down nothing to this date .in the future maybe a new drug will come along but as of right now nothing exist to desinsitize the HPTA during a steroid cycle its just guesses

TREN and DECA stimulate the progesterone receptor and thus, cause a MASSIVE sike in Polactin. Because of this spike, the HPTA becomes SUPER-SENSITIVE and responds by SHUTTING DOWN ASAP!

This is a FACT. In the human body, the presense of INCREASED PROLACTIN SENSITIZES THE HPTA. And on the CONTRARY, SUBNORMAL levels of Prolactin DESENSITIZE THE HPTA!


Furthermore, even on a cycle of Anavar, Equipoise, Winstrol, or Masteron, the HPTA will STILL BE SUPPRESSED. If you REDUCE the prolactin level, you can ALMOST TOTALLY AVOID HPTA SUPPRESSION with such mild compounds as you mentioned.

Though, who uses a cycle WITHOUT TESTOSTERONE? This is against the 10 Anabolic commandments anyway.

Even so, reducing prolactin in this case will still reduce the amount of suppression experienced.
 
- Ross - said:
TREN and DECA stimulate the progesterone receptor and thus, cause a MASSIVE sike in Polactin. Because of this spike, the HPTA becomes SUPER-SENSITIVE and responds by SHUTTING DOWN ASAP!

This is a FACT. In the human body, the presense of INCREASED PROLACTIN SENSITIZES THE HPTA. And on the CONTRARY, SUBNORMAL levels of Prolactin DESENSITIZE THE HPTA!


Furthermore, even on a cycle of Anavar, Equipoise, Winstrol, or Masteron, the HPTA will STILL BE SUPPRESSED. If you REDUCE the prolactin level, you can ALMOST TOTALLY AVOID HPTA SUPPRESSION with such mild compounds as you mentioned.

Though, who uses a cycle WITHOUT TESTOSTERONE? This is against the 10 Anabolic commandments anyway.

Even so, reducing prolactin in this case will still reduce the amount of suppression experienced.

lots of people use cycles with out testosterone .
as for the rest i guess we will just have to "agree to disagree ".about reducing prolactin levels with dht derived and non testosterone cycles.
 
chazk said:
lots of people use cycles with out testosterone .
as for the rest i guess we will just have to "agree to disagree ".about reducing prolactin levels with dht derived and non testosterone cycles.

Agreed. :)

I enjoyed the discourse brotha, your skepticism has definitely earned my respect.
 
I think there are some good points on both sides here.

The thing is...people should have levels of everything checked -- test, estro, prolactin, prog -- before they start treating something they don't need to treat.
 
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