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Djimbe,

Regale those of us here at Elite Fitness how you can crush Rickson Graacie's forearms.

Like you crushed Luis's thumb in the video.

Thanks.
 
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Please show where you see me In a BJJ or MMA contest , or being "Tapped Out" .

At BEST you have a Video of me in distress , and having to use the trestroom quite a few times . You have NOTHING that states that "BJJ" or anythign RELATED to it is the cause of said Distress , and the Video is actually Self Defeating .

You see , fool , IF the only reason that a BJJ guy can beat me is because I have NO Cardio/Endurance whatever , then its not a very good system , is it ? Oh , and guess what ? Ask any BB on this site how fast you can get your Cardio back ! That Video was like FOUR YEARS AGO - Have YOU Trained since then ? Well I have .

Secondly , your little flck shows co-operative Drilling - not somew DEATHMATCH , wich anyone in ANY BJJ school can tell easily .
 
Post From Knowledge . I "Grappled" for 35 min , and there was only 88 seconds to make me "look bad" with ?
1) My First BJJ class EVER
2) This was a BJJ CLASS , not a "Freefight" where Im using my own MA skills . This is ME LEARNING whatever it is you see me doing from others .
3) I did EXACTLY what I was TOLD to do . No such thing as a Bad Student , Only a Bad Teacher .
4} I was sick as heck that day and had to end the class early due to having the Chocolate Squirts . Most of the time you see here is me just before a Pottie Filling .
5) If you dont think that the BLATANT Racism in that Videos Intro was an Indicator that the editing was "Skewed" to mke it look a certain way , then I feel bad for you .
6) I think the UFC is a waste of Time because they pay you Nothing for WAY too much work . Yould make a better living as a TrashMan , Postman , or Bus Driver , and other ppl wouldnt Punch you in the Face !
7) any time you want to see if you can lift my GYM BAG , please come out to Allentown , PA . Im not hard to find . You think making fun of genetics is funny ? Rulon Gardener , Mark Hunt , Cabbage , and Tank Abbot arent Calvin Klein Models either . Some ppl were born bigger than others . But call me fat to my Face and Ill Roll your Car over for you . Ad Ill Dunk on you any time you like , sonny - because Im SURE youre not up for a Freefight , bareknuckle/no gear on concrete , right ?
 
Why are you a compulsive liar?



Djimbe said:
Post From Knowledge . I "Grappled" for 35 min , and there was only 88 seconds to make me "look bad" with ?
1) My First BJJ class EVER

YOu went to a Matt Thornton seminar accusing him of teaching shit that doesn't work. You got to train for free. You got your ass handed to you while rolling, then you used "I'm sick" as an excuse to stop being tapped out and then left.


2) This was a BJJ CLASS , not a "Freefight" where Im using my own MA skills . This is ME LEARNING whatever it is you see me doing from others .
You were learning alright, you got the tap down perfect!

3) I did EXACTLY what I was TOLD to do . No such thing as a Bad Student , Only a Bad Teacher .
Any grappler can see you were not doing drills but rolling. STFU, you suck at this excuse thing.

4} I was sick as heck that day and had to end the class early due to having the Chocolate Squirts . Most of the time you see here is me just before a Pottie Filling .
Yet, you traveled the 4 hours to get there, being all sick, eh? Sure buddy.

5) If you dont think that the BLATANT Racism in that Videos Intro was an Indicator that the editing was "Skewed" to mke it look a certain way , then I feel bad for you .

Get off the racism angle. You make other miniorites look bad with your "It's Racism" excuse. The only thing you think skewed is your tapping.

6) I think the UFC is a waste of Time because they pay you Nothing for WAY too much work . Yould make a better living as a TrashMan , Postman , or Bus Driver , and other ppl wouldnt Punch you in the Face !

Yeah sure buddy. How did that fight for Pride Fighting Championship go? You know, that lie you told everyone you were fighting MMA.

7) any time you want to see if you can lift my GYM BAG , please come out to Allentown , PA . Im not hard to find . You think making fun of genetics is funny ? Rulon Gardener , Mark Hunt , Cabbage , and Tank Abbot arent Calvin Klein Models either . Some ppl were born bigger than others . But call me fat to my Face and Ill Roll your Car over for you . Ad Ill Dunk on you any time you like , sonny - because Im SURE youre not up for a Freefight , bareknuckle/no gear on concrete , right ?

Blah blah blah. Anyone wanting to fight a 400lb loudmouth with self delusion issues is welcome to it. Me, I'd just shoot you.

Though, your offer to fight still doesn't detract from the fact that video shows you, in all your glory, to SUCK ass.
 
You two should get a room.

Or at least take it to PMs.

Trying to one up each other with insults over the net is ghey. :rainbow:
 
Not very nice of you, yellowperil.. That is very cheap. A true martial artist minds his own business and doesn't talk sh1t about other martial arts/artists. You should respect everyone regardless.

If he was new to the class, not feeling too well, and sparring a brown belt, BJJ rules, what do you expect?
 
Ninja12 said:
Not very nice of you, yellowperil.. That is very cheap. A true martial artist minds his own business and doesn't talk sh1t about other martial arts/artists. You should respect everyone regardless.

If he was new to the class, not feeling too well, and sparring a brown belt, BJJ rules, what do you expect?

What the fuck? A "true" martial artist? You mean that whole bullshit about being "honorable" and "benevolent" and using it only for "self defense"? Get off your fucking high-horse with that shit, it's a new age, and not everyone's going to be fucking kind. Let 'im take his cheap shots at djimbe - if the boy can't back it up, it's his problem.

Plus, you're making a retarded blanket statement about martial artists. I guess me taking martial arts has nothing to do with being a martial artist, 'cause I'm a prick to people and would do this same thing. :)
 
Anthrax Invasion said:
if the boy can't back it up, it's his problem.
Umm.. He did back himself up very well actually, should I repeat myself? He wasn't feeling well, He was new and he was sparring a brown belt, isn't that good enough?

Anthrax Invasion said:
'cause I'm a prick to people and would do this same thing. :)
Well, you should be proud of yourself....
 
Ninja12 said:
Umm.. He did back himself up very well actually, should I repeat myself? He wasn't feeling well, He was new and he was sparring a brown belt, isn't that good enough?

Well, you should be proud of yourself....

I never said he didn't defend himself, reread my fucking post. I said if he CAN'T, then that's his problem. No need to come in and try and play mediator and call out yellow on a 'cheap' tactic. Let 'em have it out, that keeps us all entertained. Why do you think people like me? :FRlol:

I am proud of myself - I thought I made that incredibly apparent by my obnoxious arrogance in all of my posts.
 
yellowperil said:
Why are you a compulsive liar?

Please List one lie that I have told . not something you heard someone else SAY I said , or something written about me on some list at Bullshido , but something Ive actually said .


YOu went to a Matt Thornton seminar accusing him of teaching shit that doesn't work.


WRONG ! I accused him of being a Poor teacher , and not knowing the difference between how you train the MIND and how you train the BODY , and this was done based upon his OWN promotional Materials , and HIS explanation of his Teaching methodologies . The guy knew Squat about Adult Education (its been years since Ive last seen him , he may know something now .)

You see , there is a Difference between teaching Good Material Poorly and teaching Poor material Well . I never said that BJJ dosent work .

Stop spreading lies .

You got to train for free. You got your ass handed to you while rolling, then you used "I'm sick" as an excuse to stop being tapped out and then left.


You are an idiot . I didnt WANT to "train" , I was told to do so or leave . I wasnt feeling well and I wanted to Observe to get a more Objectiove and less Subjective POV of the class . I STILL came out of it saying that it was "Fair" but not "Good" . I also gave my reasons for saying so , NONE of wich were based on the treatment that I was given .



You were learning alright, you got the tap down perfect!


At what point do you see me "Tap Out" ?


Any grappler can see you were not doing drills but rolling. STFU, you suck at this excuse thing.

Umm , any grappler can see that I wasnt even moving fast/hard , and that everyone in the Background were in the EXACT same Positions as Luis and I . Thats indicative of Drills sherlock , not Free Grappling . And if you had EVER seen a REAL Seminar Interrupt you would know that there would be far more focus on the center of Events . Oh , and I would have Knocked him out before EVER "Tapping Out" - when did you say I did that again ?



Yet, you traveled the 4 hours to get there, being all sick, eh? Sure buddy.

Actually , it only took me about 1.5 hours to get there , and I felt fine untill I squatted down about 4 times , then my bowels told me to "Cop a Squat" . If you MUST know .

This is were your Harrassment of me Breaks down . You see , Either I WAS sick , OR I have some Health condition that makes it Impossible for me to move after touching my Toes four times . IN EITHER CASE the Video proves NOTHING GOOD from YOUR standpoint ! The fact is if the ONLY ppl your School or system can beat are THAT bad off ALREADY then YOUR SYSTEM SUCKS ! So why do you keep looking to this Vid to "Prove" yourself or your style a success ?

So lets say your "Assessment" of me is right , and I pass out after taking four Squats - Youre BRAGGING about this ? Because thats MORE than being out of shape , that would rise to the level of Tachycardia or something . Yaaay , you can get 88 seconds of video "making" a guy look bad that cant move under his own power !

And if I WAS sick ? Well , were is the rest of the Video ? Thornton admits I was on the mat 20 Minutes , A Neutral Bullshido member says 30 , and I say closer to 40 . Why only 88 Seconds ? Why was the sound edited out ? (answer : so you cant hear them giving bad instructions to me)

The vid shows 5 sequences (of DOZENS) 1) He tells me to step out a particular way and I try it . you can see him POINTING the instruction , and me confiring it with my Circling my hand ! I try what he TOLD me to do , and "Fail" as he Butterflies me . 2) I have to go to the Restroom So I stop , from Dominant Position 3) I tried to get him into a SECOND Boston Crab . He caugt on that time . 4) He completes the move in the drill we were doing . Then we stopped and Reset . 5) He passed the Guard and achieved Side Mount , wich was the Drill . I can no longer continue and have to go to the Restroom yet again .


The vid ONLY shows that I didnt do BJJ . Yawn .

Get off the racism angle. You make other miniorites look bad with your "It's Racism" excuse. The only thing you think skewed is your tapping.


Umm , Mocking Chinese with that whole "Coolie" voice thing , coupled with Thorntons statements about CMAs is Racist . In fact , there is a Distinctly "Anti-Chinese" trend in some MMA circles . Your own Postings have reavealed some of it . You want to try to brush it under the rug , fine , but Im going to call a Spade a Spade when I see one .



Yeah sure buddy. How did that fight for Pride Fighting Championship go? You know, that lie you told everyone you were fighting MMA.

Actually , Pride isnt the only Promotional Organization in the universe . And had it BEEN with Pride (heh , I wish) Id NOT have had so many Troubles as I did .

Blah blah blah. Anyone wanting to fight a 400lb loudmouth with self delusion issues is welcome to it. Me, I'd just shoot you.

Yeah , Translation : "Im a Pussy That Hides Behind The Webternet And My Keypad"

Come see someone Ive Trained then , punk . Ill find someone Smaller than you to school you . Or even Fatter than you , whomever you THINK you could beat by looking at them . Your Pick .

Besides , the Above is UTTERLY contradictory , I mean , Am I Delusional , or a real threat ?



Though, your offer to fight still doesn't detract from the fact that video shows you, in all your glory, to SUCK ass.

A stupid person like yourself MIGHT come to that conclusion . A SMART person would see that I was willing to get down , and learn somethign new in ANY Circumstqances , even when the person attempting to "Prove Something" to me in question was being an UTTER ass about it . Even if I didnt feel my best , So what ? Go till you cant , stop , go some more ! The fact is , till you put YOUR training vids up , you have nothing to say . Because I am a DOER , and YOU are a WATCHER . Ill go with anyone , anywhere , any time with some small exceptions due to Scheduling , and those can be worked out , usually .

You ? Youll sit around TALKING about stuff that ppl like myself went and DID .
 
Djimbe said:
I was willing to get down , and learn somethign new in ANY Circumstqances , even when the person attempting to "Prove Something" to me in question was being an UTTER ass about it . Even if I didnt feel my best , So what ? Go till you cant , stop , go some more ! The fact is , till you put YOUR training vids up , you have nothing to say . Because I am a DOER , and YOU are a WATCHER . Ill go with anyone , anywhere , any time with some small exceptions due to Scheduling , and those can be worked out , usually .

You ? Youll sit around TALKING about stuff that ppl like myself went and DID .

Well said.
 
KD1 said:
I knew it, lol. Go play in another forum little boy. :rolleyes:

Come back when you have grown up. ;)

You don't read the Training Forum much, do you? He's already reached his peak level of maturity. He can't help it, it's just the way he is. :coffee: :coffee: :coffee: I make mine an espresso.
 
Props to Djimbe for training in the Martial Arts in the first place. Most people never even take the initiative to set foot on a mat or enter into a marital art studio. This was his first BJJ class and he shouldn't be put down in anyway for being involved in this sport. That wasn't an all out brawl by any means and I never saw him tap once in that video either. Best of luck in all your martial arts goals and endeavors.
 
KD1 said:
I knew it, lol. Go play in another forum little boy. :rolleyes:

Come back when you have grown up. ;)

Suck my cock, faggot.

How's that for growing up? As if swearing has any indication of someone's level of maturity.

Hell, not even AGE does. I choose to act this way to piss people like you off, 'cause I get a kick out of how annoyed you get. Fuck yourself, bitch.

:FRlol:
 
Djimbe said:
Please show where you see me In a BJJ or MMA contest , or being "Tapped Out" .

At BEST you have a Video of me in distress , and having to use the trestroom quite a few times . You have NOTHING that states that "BJJ" or anythign RELATED to it is the cause of said Distress , and the Video is actually Self Defeating .

You see , fool , IF the only reason that a BJJ guy can beat me is because I have NO Cardio/Endurance whatever , then its not a very good system , is it ? Oh , and guess what ? Ask any BB on this site how fast you can get your Cardio back ! That Video was like FOUR YEARS AGO - Have YOU Trained since then ? Well I have .

Secondly , your little flck shows co-operative Drilling - not somew DEATHMATCH , wich anyone in ANY BJJ school can tell easily .
Wait a minute. Arent you the same guy that was ridiculing Bruce Lee for his training and conditioning ideas? And your THAT obese? To be THAT obese this day and age......with all the training and conditioning knowledge we have learned since his day. Wow.
 
sorerotators said:
Wait a minute. Arent you the same guy that was ridiculing Bruce Lee for his training and conditioning ideas? And your THAT obese? To be THAT obese this day and age......with all the training and conditioning knowledge we have learned since his day. Wow.


Any time you want to hit the Gym with me youre invited . You calling me "Obese" because I lift for useable strength , and I dont waste my time or energy cutting to look pretty for you is pathetic . Guys like you probably couldnt lift my suppliment bag .

now go look at your abs in the Morror for a while .
 
Ninja12 said:
Not very nice of you, yellowperil.. That is very cheap. A true martial artist minds his own business and doesn't talk sh1t about other martial arts/artists. You should respect everyone regardless.

If he was new to the class, not feeling too well, and sparring a brown belt, BJJ rules, what do you expect?

firstly I am unaware of any true martial artist maxim that says mind your own business
showing respect to fellow martial artists I can agree with but minding your own business, that got left out of all of my training.
also to the idiot that said that was rolling
I doubt you hav ever grappled in your life
that was drilling there was no rolling
btw Djimbe I liekd that thing where you stood up and dropped back coupling his legs forcing him into a butterfly type guard was that something taught or did you kind of luck into that?
 
Not BJJ, but when I tried out Aikido for a while a black belt there gave me shit about my "lack" of fighting ability as I couldnt get the Aikido thing happening fast enough. Well I wondered what planet he was on, I was there to learn Aikido, not to use Muay Thai or CQB which I am sweet in.

I really thought that place was for jerks, as it wasnt a free for all attack fest, it was for people wanting to learn Aikido... somehow the black belt felt I cant be any good outside in the street but all I wanted was to learn Aikido, by trying to learn it, not by using what I was good at. I continued to bounce at the club just as well without it. Surely the aim for training should be to be as the instructor is and more, yet in this case I didnt want to be a cock, if thats the price for knowldge there.

Just felt that this is how this thread started, with put downs over a newbie to an art that involved learning the said style and not improvising using what already works for him. Just because someone is shit at riding motorbikes doesnt mean they cant drive a car. :rolleyes: I have seen good fighters get beaten, and its bizarre how we feast off their one defeat while they have a history of success. Jason "Pyscho" Suttie (K-1) is a formidable Muay Thai fighter, yet got his ass wipped at MMA, but that doesnt mean he is less of a fighter because of it.
 
Kane Fan said:
firstly I am unaware of any true martial artist maxim that says mind your own business
showing respect to fellow martial artists I can agree with but minding your own business, that got left out of all of my training.
also to the idiot that said that was rolling
I doubt you hav ever grappled in your life
that was drilling there was no rolling
btw Djimbe I liekd that thing where you stood up and dropped back coupling his legs forcing him into a butterfly type guard was that something taught or did you kind of luck into that?

The first time I did that I was able to pull off a cheap Ankle Submission by kind of crossing my legs , flipping him , then leaning forward and pulling on his foot . I picked it up/"invented" it when I was a kid and used to 'rassle with a friend of mine from Japan that did Judo . He didnt fully go for it twice , but I leaned a long time ago that it would at least get you out of danger , if done quickly enough . if you get it FAST you can Boston Crab him , and thats how I came by it , trying to figure out how to actually slap a B.C. on a resisting Opponent . You have to get your foot under you , and then POP back up and Stepover his thighs without letting the legs go ,and you have him . Hurts like hell , especially if you keep them crossed .
 
Yeah , I TOTALLY Understand your Urge to Leglock ! I mean , They have Joints too , and BJJ guys usually act like throwing out a bunch of perfectly good Joints to Lock between you and htem is a "Defense" ! No WAY ! LEGLOCKS FTW !!!
 
yah I like my JJ instructors
they understand that legs are tapworthy
btw I nearly got one of the instructors in an armbar
and when I say nearly I mean not even close
I had him in possition for maybe 1.5-2 seconds
but I am still quite thrilled over it
and he complimented me over that and my 'roll' to defend an armsomething or other
I can't even remember what I was defending but he said I did it right
 
yah I'm really only 3 months in for actual ground work
I had been shown some things but not real rolling/grappling before
I am four months in time wise but in April I barely made any classes at all
I think 3 or 4 for the entire mnth
 
hey that guy that djimbe was wrestling anyway sucked my balls...he was low blue belt level if that...i am sure with a little training djimbe you would work him...the bigger i have gotten in bjj the better i have gotten...just gotta keep your cardio with you
 
yes being big is really quite bennificial
it can be turned against you but it can work for you to so it's like it's own skill set
 
Cauliflower Ear :
Actually I just had pretty severe Surgies (4 of them) in my Throat and nose , so Im kind of fucked from a Cardio standpoint for the next couple of months , but after that I should be at a whole other LEVEL ! Im actually really looking forward to it , honestly , and Im hoping that Ill be Training at a totally different Plateau by this time next year .

I need bloody Sponsors .
 
Uh, I'm an experienced wrestler and I've stepped into the cage a couple times and it's pretty clear to me that that video was a casual practice.

More importantly, those who post videos of other's practices and then criticize them behind screenames are probably not worthy of snappy comebacks.

The best kind of S-talking is face-to-face and it seems like he's pretty receptive.
 
athlete.03 said:
More importantly, those who post videos of other's practices and then criticize them behind screenames are probably not worthy of snappy comebacks.

The best kind of S-talking is face-to-face and it seems like he's pretty receptive.


Dude , I own a Modest Training Facility , and after my Stitches come out Im happy to go with anyone that thinks Im a Tomato Can if they want to come on down . Warning though , Dont have AC at the moment , trying to fix that within the next month .

AND Ive been on the Bench with the condition that lead to these Surguries for almost a year now .

I just dont care .
 
well , that cant happen here , weve got pretty much FULL Northern and Southern Exposure , and on a Still day when its 95-100 outside its 125-130 in here . It can get to 105 at 3 am some days .
 
athlete.03 said:
Uh, I'm an experienced wrestler and I've stepped into the cage a couple times and it's pretty clear to me that that video was a casual practice.

More importantly, those who post videos of other's practices and then criticize them behind screenames are probably not worthy of snappy comebacks.

The best kind of S-talking is face-to-face and it seems like he's pretty receptive.

I guess wrestlers would know huh.
 
djimbe=sexual chocolate!!.... :laugh2: :laugh2:

now exactly where in that video is the big black getting his "ass kicked"??
As I see it.....a big black guy is getting schooled in BJJ in what appears to be a fairly "controlled" situation. Why do some people feel it necessary to equate what happens in a dojo or training facility to a real life fucking street fight? I have fought black guys and samoans djimbe's size from oakland and SF....and I can tell you in now way shape or form is that video indicative of the hurricane of violence a man that size brings in a real fight. Not saying anything against BJJ....but if someone's going to claim he kicked a big black guys ass....show something real, not a training session. Djimbe....the guy who started this thread, is he the guy in the video?
 
if you can't tell the difference between training and a fight, you should not be permitted to post on a martial arts forum
 
and yet we see the armchair warriors day in and day out. to say ignorance is bliss would be understating the idiocy that is present out there,.

you can tell they dont know shit from clay. it happens in every field of life.

they cant help it. dumb is, as dumb can be
 
redsamurai said:
djimbe=sexual chocolate!!.... :laugh2: :laugh2:

now exactly where in that video is the big black getting his "ass kicked"??
As I see it.....a big black guy is getting schooled in BJJ in what appears to be a fairly "controlled" situation. Why do some people feel it necessary to equate what happens in a dojo or training facility to a real life fucking street fight? I have fought black guys and samoans djimbe's size from oakland and SF....and I can tell you in now way shape or form is that video indicative of the hurricane of violence a man that size brings in a real fight. Not saying anything against BJJ....but if someone's going to claim he kicked a big black guys ass....show something real, not a training session. Djimbe....the guy who started this thread, is he the guy in the video?

No , hes an Idiot from Bullshido , where the whole thing started .

Heres what Happened ... Thornton put out this Idiot Video that made my wife call him an Idiot in a Thread on Bullshido - this was back when we thought that Bullshido was about Rooting out Idiots and Charlitains in the world of MA , not about being in the "I Do One Or More Of The Seven Sacred Systems Club" . Basically he , in the Video said some REALLY contradictory things to the practices of Adult Education , something my spouse happens to be an Expert in . Not MA , EDUCATION . She was told that because Thornton has a BB in BJJ he COULDNT be wrong , even though what he said pretty much goes against every kind of Training proven to work in any Athletic endeavour EVER .

But he possessed a BJJ Black belt , so , in the stead of listening to the Argument at hand (the guy could have said the sky was green and the grass was Red and it would have been taken as Gospel) Fanbois started Piling on over there , including this jerkoff , so thornton tells me that I CANT know ANYTHING about REAL training because I do "Kung fu" and I need to see his Seminar for the REAL deal . so I tell the guy Im not paying him to learn his crap , but Ill go Observe and take a fair asessment of what went on - but Im NOT paying for it . So I show up , feeling a bit off but thinking ot shouldnt matter , Im there to Observe anyway , he tells me I have to Train or leave , and pairs me with the little man in the vid , KNOWING Im not going to go All Out with a guy literally less than half my size , especially one thats as Charming and genial as Louis was at the time . And he knows that Martial Artists suffer from "Uke Syndrome" when in a new Training environment , you dont fight whats happening like a Newbie because you assume that there is a method to the madness in the end .


I left a lot out , most specifically the part where the guy tried to Threaten my wife for disAgreeing with him , etc.but thats the Gist of it .

So these kids try to follow me to other Boards and make the other Posters Dislike me . *shrug*
 
djimbe, you run a school?? How far are you from New castle/ellwood city?? That's not where I'm from, but I got family there.....
 
wow - http://maps.google.com/maps?li=d&hl=en&f=d&iwstate1=dir:to&daddr=729+Lawrence+Ave,+Ellwood+City,+PA+16117+(Commonwealth+of+Pennsylvania:+New+Castle)&geocode=9823673710575564449,40.858453,-80.291057&iwloc=1&dq=New+castle&cid=40858453,-80291057,16099632489686579915&ei=FF7WR7vGK4ScqwKrhuT0Aw
 
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