just as gymrat pointed out... ifg lr3 is the way to go... you are going to get the most out of using this as opposed to any other peps... there are many great peps out there, but this is the best... you need to do your research though before taking it... there are certain amounts of carbs YOU HAVE to have while taking this to make sure you are safe... I know that chemicalneed.com has some of the best igf out there... check them out and see the gains come!!