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I know a few friends are 6 months + , one or two of them a year +, most cant come off due to so many comps.... Running 12 week cycles then changing easters and running another cycle.
Who never comes off and just keep changing there juice?
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FunFun said:
Its a good question. I know that alot dont come off due to all the shows they compete in as they need to be in shape all year. I am sure juicing all year has it victims. Another problem is the depression after finishing a course..Juice give you a synergetic effect, you look good and feel good and dont ever want it to stop.
Tatyana
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boychimalochi said:
Do you mean pros?
I don't think that a lad who wants to have a strong and lean physique falls into the same category as a pro.
It think there are a couple of things to consider
- did these chaps have blood work before? Did they have normal test levels or lower test levels
-there are studies on people who have been on replacement hormones most of their lives - women. The research is always conflicting, it increases the risk of some types of cancer, it protects against some types of cancer, it increases or decreases the incidence of heart disease.
It does depend a lot on biochemical individuality
- are they relying on the drugs to make up for gaps in their training and diet? If so, when are they going to learn?
- If you can't look good in your twenties without drugs, what are you going to do in your 30s, 40s, 50s +++?
My mom told me life gets better as you get older, and from what I can tell so far, she is right.
- what is going on with you psychologically that you have to stay on any drug that you don't need medically. Is that an addiction? Do you want to be addicted to anything?
boychimalochi
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Tatyana said:
I am talking about competetive bodybuilders. They have quite a few shows to do every year, if they win locally they compete in more shows abroad. They have contracts with suplement companies, they need to stay in shape all year...
His name is Mr. Dead Guy. But his friends call him Corpse......... Pro's only.
I don't know any normal human being that would do that recreationally, but I'm sure there are some Dip Shits doing it somewhere.
I hope you are not considering it?
I don't know any normal human being that would do that recreationally, but I'm sure there are some Dip Shits doing it somewhere.
I hope you are not considering it?
Tatyana said:
It all depends on what you consider looking good. It's not hard to look like the skinny, buff guys who do underwear commercials without drugs, but many young kids are entralled with huge powerful physiques which take more than protein powder and creatine to develop.
Females can do a lot with plastic surgery and makeup. Guys don't have it that easy.
I trained natural for almost 30 years before I used a drug and achieved more development in 3 months than 10 years of natural training. Sure, I could have modelled underwear, but I wanted more.
boychimalochi
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bw1 said:
I like doing the same, how long are your courses?
wynem
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A man in his 20`s should not stay on steriods for long periods of time.....For various reasons...one been his ability to "naturally" produce steriods. A man 40 years and older it is possible to stay on for longer periods due to the fact that you produce significantly less steriods naturally.boychimalochi said:
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Tatyana said:
10 years of solid test, amazing. It obviously works well for him, meets his personal needs...Do you know if he has anything bad to say about being on for so long??
i got a buddy who has been on for almost three years straight. he has took the following, and has never been off cycle as far as i know:
Test, Tren, Winny, Deca, Masteron, EQ-injectables i know hes been on
Winny, Var, Halo, DBol, TBol, Anadrol, Primo, Clenbuterol and T3-pills i know hes been on.
Currently he is taking Test, Tren, Winny, Masteron and Clen.
He has been known to stack several orals at the same time, and in fact has, to varying degrees, ran orals for the entire three years. He has ran DBol and Anadrol together, i know for a fact, at 150mg/day for the DBol.
Now, i know he is an idiot, and i have tried to educate him but as i said, he is an idot. dumb as a box of rocks. He cant read very well. ill say he reads at a fourth or fifth graders level. BUT, this leads me to believe that steroids are not quite as dangerous as they are made out to be. Im confident he will have Life-long consequences from this, but im surprised at his lack of short term side effects.
Test, Tren, Winny, Deca, Masteron, EQ-injectables i know hes been on
Winny, Var, Halo, DBol, TBol, Anadrol, Primo, Clenbuterol and T3-pills i know hes been on.
Currently he is taking Test, Tren, Winny, Masteron and Clen.
He has been known to stack several orals at the same time, and in fact has, to varying degrees, ran orals for the entire three years. He has ran DBol and Anadrol together, i know for a fact, at 150mg/day for the DBol.
Now, i know he is an idiot, and i have tried to educate him but as i said, he is an idot. dumb as a box of rocks. He cant read very well. ill say he reads at a fourth or fifth graders level. BUT, this leads me to believe that steroids are not quite as dangerous as they are made out to be. Im confident he will have Life-long consequences from this, but im surprised at his lack of short term side effects.
Tatyana said:
He must look like the Elephant Man. How does he manage to pull it off ?
I presume he has no health issues and can function "normally?" 10 years !!!
Now if you are counting HRT or cruising... thats a different scenario.
I do that. Come down to 150mg/wk of Test and maybe 10mg Dbol/ED. for my HRT time (usually 60-90 days) Then It's lock and load time again.
If your friend runs gear "full metal jacket" 365 for 10 years, he is a marvel.
I do that. Come down to 150mg/wk of Test and maybe 10mg Dbol/ED. for my HRT time (usually 60-90 days) Then It's lock and load time again.
If your friend runs gear "full metal jacket" 365 for 10 years, he is a marvel.
DannoMight
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I do very long runs but I have come off for 2-4 months. I just get tired of poking myself.
boychimalochi
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JLowe02 said:
Does he compete?
boychimalochi
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nzrodney said:
I used to go on for a year at a time when i was younger, I just never wanted to stop. Do you run a course and then start another one strait afterwards?
FunFun said:
I know a couple of guys that are of age, one is 44yo, the other is 55yo, both have been juicing steady for years now.
The 55yo is a national competitor in power lifting and does only testosterone and sometimes anadrol when not competing. He uses a compounded test-prop made at the pharmacy that comes in 60ml syringes, and he rubs 1cc a day on his thin skin inner forearms every morning for HRT year round, and runs 1 gram a week of test-enanthate injected while training for competitions. 3 weeks before he is to compete, he stops using the test-e, continues the cream, and gets tested before competitions, and levels are always within normal range. He won the dead lift and squat national competition this year for his age group, and came in second on bench press. last four years, he won first place in all three lifts. He has not in the last 10 years been off of test and never has done a pct. I have to say that he is very tempermental at times, has some pretty crazy mood swings, and is a total whore with uncontrolable sex drive when he is on 1 gram a week. Other than that, he is a great guy and will do anything in the world for his friends. He is alot more even keeled when on his HRT only I have to say.
My other friend though has been on for almost five years straight, does everything under the sun, AAS and peptides, attempts to do a pct ance in awhile, but always goes back the excessive amounts of gear and peptides. He is genetically gifted, and is a BBer, and weighs in at around 240, 5'10", averages 6to8% BF. Eats alot, but not clean. His life is falling apart as we speak, divorce, $$ problems, and now his health is getting bad as he is hypertensive now. I checked his BP the other day and it was 160/102. No matter what I tell him, he just continues to do these things with no regard to caution. All he cares about is looking good for the little hotties that are atractted top him physically.
With that being said, I think that if you are naturally hormonally deficient due to age, then HRT is a good thing, as male menopause is real, and once in a while upping your dose of test from the standard 125mg a week from your doc, some docs do a little more, some less, to say 250mg a week for 2 to 3 months "once in a while" wont hurt you. Its when you go to extremes and throw caution to the wind, thats when you will have problems.
Once or twice a year maybe, up your dose from HRT dose, and go back to your normal dose. Do an anti-e while uppinig your dose as you will have some estrogen rebound. Gotta go
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pogo
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I wonder what these people's FSH and LH levels look like? I cycled for 3 years - not straight but did 3 cycles per year maybe would take off 4 weeks in between cycles - my levels were screwed. I've been off for 7 months now. my sperm counts were 0 the last couple of times I'm hoping that when I get that checked next month it will have come up some since me and the fiancee are trying..
FSH and LH levels as well as test came back to normal range about 3 months after stopping.
FSH and LH levels as well as test came back to normal range about 3 months after stopping.
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pogo said:
Did you do PCT between those cycles or only since your last one?
boychimalochi
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Sounds like they still hit you bad, i had blood work done 2 years ago, doctor told me i had no test, bad sperm count, he put me on pregnol for 60 days, made a solution for me with saline and pregnol. Had small daily injections, took just as long to come back up, but once back i was like 16 year old kid again.
nzrodney said:
No offense Mr. Shit.
Can you share with the class what your blood chemistry values, or relevant blood work look like? Just curious.
nzrodney
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Without going into too much detail, my bloods are relatively good last tested 8 months ago & due to be done again. Some liver emzine activity that doc watching & I'm on the top end of prostate PSA. I'm an "older" guy so I dont have reproductive issues to worry about. My bp is normally around 125/70 but since I slipped Eq (400mg last 20 weeks) into my stack it has gone up 150/85 . Currently running cruise dose TestE 500, Deca 500, Eq 400, Winny 200. 215lbs, 5'10, BF 8-9% Current goal Local & National NABBA Masters Sept & Nov but injuries holding me back & body mass is not where I want it to be.halfcenturian said:No offense Mr. Shit.
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dabuffguy said:
A steroid is a terpenoid lipid characterized by a carbon skeleton with four fused rings, generally arranged in a 6-6-6-5 fashion.
natural steroids (just to name a few):
testosterone
estradiol
progesterone
cortisol
dhea
nandrolone
pregnenolone
synthetic (just a few):
methyltestosterone
oxandrolone
trenbolone
boldenone
stanozolol
ethinyl estradiol (birth control)
prednisone (corticosteroid)
nzrodney said:
I was actually looking for detail. I'm an older guy too, 51. I run HRT cruise at 150. 2-3 months Then back onto full cycle. 5-600 Test, Deca, Dbol, Tren.. whatever for 3 months. Your BP is amazingly low! What is your PSA?
What are your liver enzyme/bilirubin levels?
AST
ALT
Alk Phos
Bili total
And Lipid levels:
LDL
HDL
TRIGS
VLDL
Thanks, I hope you don't mind me asking.
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pogo said:
How heavy were your cycles? Like 2 grams per week?
JLowe02 said:
Argue your Hormone/Steroid Shit on another thread.
We're talking about a dude ON CYCLE for 10 years, you fu$@#! @!#$% HIJACKING ENEMA'S!
wzkid said:
HEY !!! ............LET'S TALK ABOUT JOCK ITCH !
bros please -- cannot be just get along..... if you guys fight i may have to cry 
Big_Joe
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I am on a balst and cruise routine. But I'm an old guy tht has low test levels. I will do a cycle, usually test and eq finished with test and tren. Then back on cruise. I cruise at 250mg every other week. Right now I'm on 500mg test per week and 600mg eq per week. I do this for sixteen weeks then go to 4 to six weeks of test at 500mg oper week and 300 tri tren per week.
I'm not even close to dead. I'm having the time of my life. But if I was thirty years younger I wouldn't be doing it this way. For example there are a lot of people that say 250 to 500 per week of Hcg keeps their balls normal. Well this changes when you get older. I now use 5000iu per month. This is working for me. But it's my age and everything my body has been through.
I'm not even close to dead. I'm having the time of my life. But if I was thirty years younger I wouldn't be doing it this way. For example there are a lot of people that say 250 to 500 per week of Hcg keeps their balls normal. Well this changes when you get older. I now use 5000iu per month. This is working for me. But it's my age and everything my body has been through.
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The thought crossed my mind a few times, I was on pretty much straight for over a year (im 22) due to all the free gear I had I didn't see it being a problem. I calmed down a bit since then and im actually doing full PCT and time on = time off. But its hard when its right in front of you stacked to the ceiling. ;P
I Just started my prop/tren/win cycle this mornin wooo hooo
I Just started my prop/tren/win cycle this mornin wooo hooo
Looks like nzrodney packed it in.... Yo Rod, come back and fill in the blanks, bro.
FRONT2BACKJACKED
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im on for about 9/12 months yearly
coasting or cruising........
coasting or cruising........
boychimalochi
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Burpees said:
Do you have a reason for crusing with test cyp? Are you on HRT, or just enjoying being on? The genral concensious on this board is to run a cycle, then take PCT and have some time off...
needtogetaas
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I never come off
boychimalochi
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needtogetaas said:
Do you keep running cycles or run maintainance does between cycles?
needtogetaas
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I run 100mg prop eod between cycles or 300-400mg test-e-c then do a cycle after a few months.boychimalochi said:
Tatyana
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dabuffguy said:
There are three basic classes of human hormones
1. Peptide hormones - i.e) insulin, glucagon, ADH
2. Amino acid hormones - thyroxine, trioodothyronine, epinephrine/norepinephrine or adrenaline/noradrenaline
3. Steroid hormones - sex steroid hormones, glucocorticoids, mineralcorticoids
All synthetic steroids are based off the three natural steroid hormones testosterone, dihydrotestosterone and nandrolone.
The synthetic pathways for the sex steroid hormones is quite complex, and all are derived from cholesterol.
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boychimalochi said:
I'm enjoying being on right now, all around happier not just better looking/performing.. This board, and most other boards, and even people from the Old School to folks from the new school...I don't buy too much into what I read. A lot of people lie for the sakes of keeping newbies safe, I consider it misinformation.
needtogetaas said:
Damn, so you're cruising at some of our cycle doses. How long? Would you recommend this to someone like me - I know what I'm doing - but it is still just my first cycle.
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Burpees said:
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