Flashman you are so fucking stupid it baffles me. You stated the HAyabusa in your previous post and ditched the cbr1100xx. Anyone that knows or appreciates anything about motorcycle engineering would laugh at your comparison. My CBR 1100XX is 5hp short on the hayabusa, big fucking deal. It more then makes up in other aspects. And any motorcycle connesouir will know they are 2 different class of machines. As far as speed and me handling a bike, does 170mph in a turn impress you? How about well worn pegs on a 550lb bike with a 255lb rider? Can you do that?
Actually, Like I said before, I HAVE owned sportbikes before, and though I don't weigh 255 (I'm 220, but I'm also only 5'8") I Wore the pegs on on my old Hurricane so bad that I had to replace them twice, and spent a ton of time on my pegs and knee sliders on my ZX-11D carving the canyons in Southern CA when I was stationed out there in the military. 170 in a turn? that IS impressive, if speed in turns is your only concern. I used to ride like a maniac too, but with time, that got old, and I started becoming more concerned with creature comfort. And yes, I agree w/you that the Hayabusa IS a different class of machine than the CBR, but it's the only big-cc sportbike I've ridden in a number of years, so it was the only comparison that I could make from experience.
Harley's may have improved leaps and bounds, but they only caught up from the 1940's to the 1970's technology.
the new twin cam is an excellent motor, on par with it's leading Japanese competitors, CRUISER-wise.
Their engines are joke, they have the weakest HP output per cc of any bikes manufactured today.
Like I said, when compared to sportbikes, of course, thier hp numbers pale in comparison. But when compared to other cruisers, they're very close.
And they sell the American image, which i think is cool, but most of the newer technology in them is from Europe and Japan. Their new model with the Porshe made powerplant still has MAJOR engineering flaws, like solid wheels. I need not tell you what solid wheels do in cross winds on a highway.
from that standpoint, you're absolutely correct, I hate those solid wheels, not only are they ugly, but they're dangerous as well. However, I have ridden a VROD, and it is a fun bike to ride. Cool looks (except for the wheels), good power, and so on.
Face it, HArley has lost a huge future market share, as their current crop of buyers is aging and are not getting replaced by young people, they will be in trouble and they know it.
I don't agree here... A lot of younger kids that I talk to (16-25 age range), are buying sportbikes/Jap cruisers, and telling me they wish they could afford a Harley because of the sound, looks, etc. A lot of what they sell IS in fact the legend , the mystique, whatever you want to call it, that is true, but to say that they're losing ground, couldn't be farther from the truth. Most Harleys are sold before they even hit the dealers' showrooms, how many Japanese companies can that be said about??? Not one that I can think of.
The motorcycles are of low quality outdated parts and that is a fact. Put 60,000 miles on one and i guarantee you, it will not hold up without some major work, at least twice. That is the point i am making.
I don't agree here either.... I HAVE put WELL over 60,000 miles on a few of my Harleys, including my '74 sportster (my first Harley) and I have not had to do a rebuild, or any really MAJOR fixes... Also, my uncle has a '98 Ultra Classic Electra Glide w/about 81k on it, and all he's ever done is the recommended lubes and services. Like I said before, that may have been true in the 70's and early 80's, but since the inception of the EVO motor in '84, those days are gone.... I'm not saying they never break, but it's not even close to as bad as you've made it sound.
Let me say this, I'm not AGAINST other bikes, I just prefer Harleys. I've ridden MANY styles and brand names of bikes. I've owned many also. I like ALL motorcycles. I've never said Japanese bikes' engineering is inferior, I'm merely stating that the gap is not as wide as it was 25 years ago. No hard feelings bro, I just think a lot of people who talk a lot of shit and claim to know so much have never even ridden a Harley.
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